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offline pOgO from behind your belly button fluff on 2002-03-07 11:23 [#00115423]
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http://batesmotel.8m.com/

http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero13/pentagone/erreurs_en
.htm

check em out !


 

offline nacmat on 2002-03-07 11:33 [#00115433]
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scarying!!
why???



 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-07 11:34 [#00115434]
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I've heard these a bunch of times. Don't know what to make
of them. We all know to what extent authorities are ready to
lie tu us in order to stay in power...


 

offline nacmat on 2002-03-07 11:41 [#00115441]
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that about the penthagon I never heard of it...
interesting...but what is the answer then?
what do you think?


 

offline pOgO from behind your belly button fluff on 2002-03-07 12:13 [#00115478]
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I don't know.

V suspicious though don't you think ?


 

offline korben dallas from nz on 2002-03-07 13:39 [#00115536]
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illuminati!!!


 

offline Phresch from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2002-03-07 13:48 [#00115544]
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hmm..i liked one about the moon landing. sounds pretty
fake/real.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-03-07 13:53 [#00115549]
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I always thought it was funny how little the pentagon crash
was mentioned and all the coverage seemed to be about the
twin towers. I thought it was because the Petagon was
"restricted" there were few pictures of it. It would appear
otherwise..


 

offline D-Hex from Blue Springs Missouri (United States) on 2002-03-08 23:27 [#00118309]
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Yeah i know, it seems as though the whole plane that crashed
into the pentagon thing happens all the time! You dont hear
anything about it!

And about the moon thing, fox had a show that was based on
the consperacy.

A question a lot of people have are, how do the astronauts
float if they arent on the moon!? Well if you slow the
video down it is clear they arent floating, they are just
jumping and overexagerating all of their movements. The
video is actually a little creepy, but also a little funny!
hehe.


 

offline val from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-08 23:34 [#00118316]
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interestingly, the us government has just released video
footage today of the plane crashing into the pentagon.

faked?


 

offline AMinal from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-03-08 23:39 [#00118322]
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WHAAAAAAT?
ive seen that stupid moon landing conspiriacy BS before....
SO ridiculus, u can tell the people who put together these
conspiricies know nothing about space!
I dont even know that much about that shit, but i can alone
dispell most of their stupid, not thought through arguments
lol... some of the "moon facts" on that page are actually
quite hilariously WRONG
i wont go into detail, cus it would take forever, unless
someone disagrees with me!


 

offline D-Hex from Blue Springs Missouri (United States) on 2002-03-08 23:40 [#00118324]
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AMinal - i disagree!


 

offline D-Hex from Blue Springs Missouri (United States) on 2002-03-08 23:40 [#00118325]
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No not really, but rant on brotha, rant on.


 

offline AMinal from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-03-08 23:41 [#00118326]
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BTW, a few days after that fox special, discover channel had
a show completely dispelling all the ridiculus arguments the
conspiracy theorists had...
i did not see either show, but those of you who did know
what im talking about...


 

offline hevquip from megagram dusk sect (United States) on 2002-03-08 23:41 [#00118327]
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conspiricies are fun just as a novelty. i like the magazine
fortean times. it's got stuff about the supernatural and
unexplained phenomina. it's a pretty good read. i think they
got a site, but i don't know the link. they're based out of
the u.k. i believe.


 

offline AMinal from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-03-08 23:45 [#00118334]
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1) MOST of the stupid arguments are based on the assumption
that there is "only one" source of light on the moon
(presumably the sun) and therefore should only be one shadow
for each object...
this is just stupid
OK: have u ever noticed how bright the full moon is on a
cloudless night?
on the moon, the earth (reflecting light from the sun) is
MUCH MUCH brighter than the brightest full moon.

2) he claims u cannot see any stars in the photos
when is the last time u took a normal photograph of
something close by at night w/ flash or whatever, and SAW
STARS in the picture?!?!
the stars are simply not bright enough to catch without a
LONG exposure time


 

offline AMinal from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-03-08 23:46 [#00118336]
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(follow up to 2):
especially with bright objects in the forground


 

offline 010101 from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-03-08 23:51 [#00118343]
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Interesting!
It's them and us again:)


 

offline Vader from € Lisbon, PT on 2002-03-08 23:51 [#00118345]
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I totally agree with the fake moon landing, it was my
grandfather that said that to me and I thought at the time
he was crazy because its something that no one would think
not, there are some stuff on the videos like how they show
the landing in worms point of view to that they had to land
in moon in the first place. The pentagon, when I was
watching the news they first said it was an helicopter that
hitted the building and I was amazed that they didnt showed
more images of the pentagon only the twin towers.


 

offline AMinal from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-03-08 23:55 [#00118352]
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"An average days temperature on the moon ranges from 260° F
to 280° F, too [hot] for film to survive. At those
temperatures, film crinkles up into a ball."
wtf? there is not temperature on the moon, because it is a
vacum, u idiot!
the temerature he refers too is the temerature of things in
the sunlight there.. in shadow it would be close to absolute
zero.
i doubt they kept the film out in the open ; )

"About 20 miles about the Earth, there is a radiation belt
named the Van Allen belt. No human can get through this
belt, If you try than you get hit with 300+ rads of
radiation. Unless they are surrounded on each side by 4 feet
on lead."
this guy is a moron
they are called BELTS for a reason: they are sort of
ring-like shapes around the earth, easily avoided

"There are millions of micro-metors traveling at speeds up
to 6000 MPH, which would tear the ship to pieces. "
yes the space shuttles have to contend with these too... but
they do not "tear the ship to shread"
they DO cause a lot of wear though, which is part of the
reason astronaughts could not stay on the moon for that
long: their suits would wear out

whoo... my hands are gettin tired...



 

offline Vader from € Lisbon, PT on 2002-03-09 00:06 [#00118367]
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Dont you think it was a bit rushed the man on the moon, US
was at (cold)war with the URRS and they already won the 1st
man on space trip. It could be a fake stunt by US why didnt
they when to moon now-a-days "sure theres nothing to do
there we already whent there", but they will go there again
there are plans for putting a radiotelescope in the zone of
the moon that never shows up because its cleaner when that
day arrive I´ll change my mind.


 

offline hevquip from megagram dusk sect (United States) on 2002-03-09 00:08 [#00118372]
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for an object to maintain orbit around the earth, it must
travel at the minimum speed of 18,000 mph.


 

offline AMinal from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-03-09 00:11 [#00118375]
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vader: just cus it was "a bit rushed", does not mean it was
fake

also remember the THOUSANDS upon thousands of people who
would ALL have to stay quiet... not likely


 

offline Tropa from Helsinki (Finland) on 2002-03-09 00:25 [#00118395]
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D-Hex: The astronauts aren't supposed to float on the
surface of the moon. The moon has a gravitational force in
which a 100kg astronaut's weight equals that of a 16,5kg
object on earth.


 

offline Peter File from the future!!! Ooooh chase me! on 2002-03-09 00:26 [#00118396]
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Dammit Tropa, I was going to change my avatar to that
picture.

Bastardo!


 

offline Canerfold from Minneappleseed (United States) on 2002-03-09 01:20 [#00118488]
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if there was something to this conspiracy why would so many
of the claims be so easily dismissable? if it was true it
would be more easily provable. to many people involved for
such an airtight conspiracy.


 

offline Canerfold from Minneappleseed (United States) on 2002-03-09 01:22 [#00118491]
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anyone ever hear of the chemntrail conspiracies? there are
loads of people who dedicate much time to photographing jets
that are supposedly letting out chemicals of some sort where
you see the trail of exaust. the arguments for this seem
pretty weak to me but loads are obsessed with it.


 

offline Vader from € Lisbon, PT on 2002-03-09 16:23 [#00118803]
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I wouldnt take everything for granted that easly, thats one
thing I learned in philosophy classes, there are people
finding mistakes in Einstein theories right now, I think
with the right amount of money and a gun pointed to the mans
families much things can be said, who knows really for sure
maybe tomorrow at TV someone of those man will come clean,
so I think a fake moon landing can be done and perhaps we
all live in ignorance.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2002-03-09 16:30 [#00118807]
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scratch the "perhaps" there


 

offline Darth manchu from Cambridge (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-09 16:35 [#00118811]
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I got that pic with a warp release, and we stuck it on a
bin. Kind of odd, because the bin is called "LUCY".


 

offline Xanatos from New York City (United States) on 2002-03-09 17:40 [#00118850]
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I am not fully convinced the moon landings were genuine,
when there is motive for something (as their clearly was for
the moon landing), our government will go about whatever
measure to obtain it. I really don't know enough about the
facts on either side for me to critically analyze it but I
definately have my suspicions.

Conspiracy Theory I posted a while ago.


 

offline Vader from € Lisbon, PT on 2002-03-09 18:00 [#00118855]
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Xanatos: I agree with you about the virus conspiracy its
hard not to think in that way.

So where´s Osama Bin Laden? Does he exist? Is he an evil
alien? The US president said he would be capture in a week
and that was months ago! (thats about the media control,
they show what they want or what they´re told to show)


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2002-03-09 18:15 [#00118857]
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Moon landing = fake. I don't need someone elses silly
evidence, I found my own piece of evidence in a video
recording I used to have of it. Soundstage!!! Superimposed
footage!!! I think so :)

As far as the pentagon thing goes... the reason why it only
penetrated the first ring, is due to the psychic protection
used to hold the Lloigor in the center of the pentagon.
Believe me. You don't want that thing coming out of the
woodwork.


 

offline Xanatos from New York City (United States) on 2002-03-09 18:15 [#00118858]
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Vader: yeah, glad you understand.

But even though its not for you...
Its very hard for a lot of people in the states to think
that way.

I don't even say things like that too much except to very
close friends (or this MB =) because of how politically
incorrect it is...


 

offline wayout from the street of crocodiles on 2002-03-10 07:23 [#00119614]
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wow..just looked at both the sites...though im not so sure
about the moon landing being fake (i suppose it could
be...but the evidence on that site was kinda sketchy...)
but the pentagon thing was pretty shady...there was nothing
in any of the pictures ive seen that would lead me to
believe a plane was involved come to think of it (though i
havent seen the recently released footage)..but i havent
really thought about it until know..which i guess was the
point
what im wondering is ...if what damaged the pentagon wasnt a
plane...why did they lie about it? ...and where is the
fourth plane? hmmm


 

offline AMinal from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-03-10 07:28 [#00119618]
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ok i agree with u guys that the average person definitly
lives in ignorance of the "real" world
people control what we see, and therefore what we think and
do, and thats dangerous
there are definitly HUGE misconceptions, lies, etc created
on purpose

all i was saying, was that the EVIDENCE offered on that moon
landing site was absolute bullshit



 

offline JOB from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-03-10 07:59 [#00119627]
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Holy shit that pentagon one is amazing. I seriously believe
something is up there. Perhaps they did it to get people
even more mad at the terrorists (well assuming the us did
it, tho i can c them bombing the pentagon themselves).
Pehaps a terrorist got in with an armed vechicle and the US
doesnt want people to think its that easy to do. Either way
the US government and the US militairy can all go to hell,
because they are full of shit and i have no respect for
them.


 

offline kalaim badkaama from Apt 512 in Gilmour Orbiter (Re on 2002-03-10 09:54 [#00119659]
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This is shit.
yer gov lies to you all.
HAR HAR HAR!!!



 

offline E-man from Rixensart (Belgium) on 2002-03-10 10:46 [#00119671]
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landing on moon = not fake...
but maybe a fake video to calm peoples expectations.
And i think russians putted a man in space before americans
pentagon, maybe a missile fired by some isolated people, as
job says it's kept secret to not make people affraid


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2002-03-10 11:04 [#00119678]
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george W bush had more to do with 9/11 than osama bin setup.
he is probably dead anyways - he was a feeble-minded rich
saudi with all kinds of internal organ failures imminent. if
he is not dead, he is probably in the Pentagon being
attended to by the president's personal physician - maybe he
will suddenly be "captured" when he dies...


 

offline wayout from the street of crocodiles on 2002-03-11 05:08 [#00120568]
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the weirdest thing about the pentagon issue..is that it is
rather evident in the pictures that there was no plane...
if that is true..what happened to the fourth hijacked plane?


did anyone watch that 9/11 show? the whole event still seems
really surreal...


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2002-03-11 05:15 [#00120569]
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i saw the whole thing unfold live - just a stroke of luck
really - i was waiting for diagnosis: murder to start after
neighbours, when a special newcast said that a plane had
crashed into one of the WTC - at that point, they didn't
even think that it was a terrorist act.


 

offline Contour Regard from Herscher (come and find me) (United States) on 2002-03-11 06:45 [#00120594]
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the pentagon one was very interesting, and i've seen the
moon one a many times, there is some website that gives
physics facts and such to disprove that site


 

offline D-Hex from Blue Springs Missouri (United States) on 2002-03-11 08:13 [#00120624]
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The pentagon thing is very fugged up.

The question of the conspiracy is, what do they have to say
about the eye witnesses that were outside of the pentagon
when the plane did fly into it? Or were there any????

I saw an episode of 20/20 and it had a flight control lady
on there that was tracking the plane, and she said it was
aimed at the white house, then turned around and went for
the pentagon......so did the government pay her off or what?


 

offline Vader from € Lisbon, PT on 2002-03-11 18:53 [#00121450]
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Yeah I think E-man just gave the money anwser there, a fake
movie to calm down everyone and show the world that the
americans did went to the moon, I always thought that phrase
sounded a little to dramatic:

Neil Armstrong: "I'm at the foot of the ladder...I'm going
to step off...now. That's one small step for man. One giant
leap for mankind."

Even if i did written down he would be too much exited to
even say a phrase like that so a fake movie but a true
landing on the moon I think we got it and in that I can
believe.



 

offline D-Hex from Blue Springs Missouri (United States) on 2002-03-11 19:45 [#00121514]
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Good call vader,,,i never really noticed that now that i
think about it.

By the way my dog is snoring,,,anyone else have this
problem?

Shall i kick her?


 

offline toyrex on 2002-03-13 20:26 [#00124830]
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george bush = satanist


 


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