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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2002-03-07 11:23 [#00115423]
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http://batesmotel.8m.com/
http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero13/pentagone/erreurs_en .htm
check em out !
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nacmat
on 2002-03-07 11:33 [#00115433]
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scarying!! why???
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-07 11:34 [#00115434]
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I've heard these a bunch of times. Don't know what to make of them. We all know to what extent authorities are ready to lie tu us in order to stay in power...
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nacmat
on 2002-03-07 11:41 [#00115441]
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that about the penthagon I never heard of it... interesting...but what is the answer then?
what do you think?
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2002-03-07 12:13 [#00115478]
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I don't know.
V suspicious though don't you think ?
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-03-07 13:39 [#00115536]
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illuminati!!!
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Phresch
from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2002-03-07 13:48 [#00115544]
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hmm..i liked one about the moon landing. sounds pretty fake/real.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-03-07 13:53 [#00115549]
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I always thought it was funny how little the pentagon crash was mentioned and all the coverage seemed to be about the twin towers. I thought it was because the Petagon was "restricted" there were few pictures of it. It would appear otherwise..
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D-Hex
from Blue Springs Missouri (United States) on 2002-03-08 23:27 [#00118309]
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Yeah i know, it seems as though the whole plane that crashed into the pentagon thing happens all the time! You dont hear anything about it!
And about the moon thing, fox had a show that was based on the consperacy.
A question a lot of people have are, how do the astronauts float if they arent on the moon!? Well if you slow the video down it is clear they arent floating, they are just jumping and overexagerating all of their movements. The video is actually a little creepy, but also a little funny! hehe.
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val
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-08 23:34 [#00118316]
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interestingly, the us government has just released video footage today of the plane crashing into the pentagon.
faked?
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AMinal
from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-03-08 23:39 [#00118322]
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WHAAAAAAT? ive seen that stupid moon landing conspiriacy BS before.... SO ridiculus, u can tell the people who put together these conspiricies know nothing about space!
I dont even know that much about that shit, but i can alone dispell most of their stupid, not thought through arguments
lol... some of the "moon facts" on that page are actually quite hilariously WRONG
i wont go into detail, cus it would take forever, unless someone disagrees with me!
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D-Hex
from Blue Springs Missouri (United States) on 2002-03-08 23:40 [#00118324]
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AMinal - i disagree!
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D-Hex
from Blue Springs Missouri (United States) on 2002-03-08 23:40 [#00118325]
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No not really, but rant on brotha, rant on.
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AMinal
from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-03-08 23:41 [#00118326]
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BTW, a few days after that fox special, discover channel had a show completely dispelling all the ridiculus arguments the conspiracy theorists had...
i did not see either show, but those of you who did know what im talking about...
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hevquip
from megagram dusk sect (United States) on 2002-03-08 23:41 [#00118327]
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conspiricies are fun just as a novelty. i like the magazine fortean times. it's got stuff about the supernatural and unexplained phenomina. it's a pretty good read. i think they got a site, but i don't know the link. they're based out of the u.k. i believe.
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AMinal
from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-03-08 23:45 [#00118334]
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1) MOST of the stupid arguments are based on the assumption that there is "only one" source of light on the moon (presumably the sun) and therefore should only be one shadow for each object...
this is just stupid OK: have u ever noticed how bright the full moon is on a cloudless night?
on the moon, the earth (reflecting light from the sun) is MUCH MUCH brighter than the brightest full moon.
2) he claims u cannot see any stars in the photos when is the last time u took a normal photograph of something close by at night w/ flash or whatever, and SAW STARS in the picture?!?!
the stars are simply not bright enough to catch without a LONG exposure time
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AMinal
from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-03-08 23:46 [#00118336]
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(follow up to 2): especially with bright objects in the forground
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-03-08 23:51 [#00118343]
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Interesting! It's them and us again:)
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Vader
from € Lisbon, PT on 2002-03-08 23:51 [#00118345]
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I totally agree with the fake moon landing, it was my grandfather that said that to me and I thought at the time he was crazy because its something that no one would think not, there are some stuff on the videos like how they show the landing in worms point of view to that they had to land in moon in the first place. The pentagon, when I was watching the news they first said it was an helicopter that hitted the building and I was amazed that they didnt showed more images of the pentagon only the twin towers.
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AMinal
from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-03-08 23:55 [#00118352]
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"An average days temperature on the moon ranges from 260° F to 280° F, too [hot] for film to survive. At those temperatures, film crinkles up into a ball."
wtf? there is not temperature on the moon, because it is a vacum, u idiot!
the temerature he refers too is the temerature of things in the sunlight there.. in shadow it would be close to absolute zero.
i doubt they kept the film out in the open ; )
"About 20 miles about the Earth, there is a radiation belt named the Van Allen belt. No human can get through this belt, If you try than you get hit with 300+ rads of radiation. Unless they are surrounded on each side by 4 feet on lead."
this guy is a moron they are called BELTS for a reason: they are sort of ring-like shapes around the earth, easily avoided
"There are millions of micro-metors traveling at speeds up to 6000 MPH, which would tear the ship to pieces. "
yes the space shuttles have to contend with these too... but they do not "tear the ship to shread"
they DO cause a lot of wear though, which is part of the reason astronaughts could not stay on the moon for that long: their suits would wear out
whoo... my hands are gettin tired...
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Vader
from € Lisbon, PT on 2002-03-09 00:06 [#00118367]
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Dont you think it was a bit rushed the man on the moon, US was at (cold)war with the URRS and they already won the 1st man on space trip. It could be a fake stunt by US why didnt they when to moon now-a-days "sure theres nothing to do there we already whent there", but they will go there again there are plans for putting a radiotelescope in the zone of the moon that never shows up because its cleaner when that day arrive I´ll change my mind.
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hevquip
from megagram dusk sect (United States) on 2002-03-09 00:08 [#00118372]
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for an object to maintain orbit around the earth, it must travel at the minimum speed of 18,000 mph.
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AMinal
from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-03-09 00:11 [#00118375]
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vader: just cus it was "a bit rushed", does not mean it was fake
also remember the THOUSANDS upon thousands of people who would ALL have to stay quiet... not likely
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Tropa
from Helsinki (Finland) on 2002-03-09 00:25 [#00118395]
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D-Hex: The astronauts aren't supposed to float on the surface of the moon. The moon has a gravitational force in which a 100kg astronaut's weight equals that of a 16,5kg object on earth.
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Peter File
from the future!!! Ooooh chase me! on 2002-03-09 00:26 [#00118396]
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Dammit Tropa, I was going to change my avatar to that picture.
Bastardo!
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Canerfold
from Minneappleseed (United States) on 2002-03-09 01:20 [#00118488]
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if there was something to this conspiracy why would so many of the claims be so easily dismissable? if it was true it would be more easily provable. to many people involved for such an airtight conspiracy.
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Canerfold
from Minneappleseed (United States) on 2002-03-09 01:22 [#00118491]
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anyone ever hear of the chemntrail conspiracies? there are loads of people who dedicate much time to photographing jets that are supposedly letting out chemicals of some sort where you see the trail of exaust. the arguments for this seem pretty weak to me but loads are obsessed with it.
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Vader
from € Lisbon, PT on 2002-03-09 16:23 [#00118803]
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I wouldnt take everything for granted that easly, thats one thing I learned in philosophy classes, there are people finding mistakes in Einstein theories right now, I think with the right amount of money and a gun pointed to the mans families much things can be said, who knows really for sure maybe tomorrow at TV someone of those man will come clean, so I think a fake moon landing can be done and perhaps we all live in ignorance.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-03-09 16:30 [#00118807]
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scratch the "perhaps" there
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Darth manchu
from Cambridge (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-09 16:35 [#00118811]
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I got that pic with a warp release, and we stuck it on a bin. Kind of odd, because the bin is called "LUCY".
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Xanatos
from New York City (United States) on 2002-03-09 17:40 [#00118850]
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I am not fully convinced the moon landings were genuine, when there is motive for something (as their clearly was for the moon landing), our government will go about whatever measure to obtain it. I really don't know enough about the facts on either side for me to critically analyze it but I definately have my suspicions.
Conspiracy Theory I posted a while ago.
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Vader
from € Lisbon, PT on 2002-03-09 18:00 [#00118855]
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Xanatos: I agree with you about the virus conspiracy its hard not to think in that way.
So where´s Osama Bin Laden? Does he exist? Is he an evil alien? The US president said he would be capture in a week and that was months ago! (thats about the media control, they show what they want or what they´re told to show)
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2002-03-09 18:15 [#00118857]
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Moon landing = fake. I don't need someone elses silly evidence, I found my own piece of evidence in a video recording I used to have of it. Soundstage!!! Superimposed footage!!! I think so :)
As far as the pentagon thing goes... the reason why it only penetrated the first ring, is due to the psychic protection used to hold the Lloigor in the center of the pentagon. Believe me. You don't want that thing coming out of the woodwork.
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Xanatos
from New York City (United States) on 2002-03-09 18:15 [#00118858]
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Vader: yeah, glad you understand.
But even though its not for you... Its very hard for a lot of people in the states to think that way.
I don't even say things like that too much except to very close friends (or this MB =) because of how politically incorrect it is...
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wayout
from the street of crocodiles on 2002-03-10 07:23 [#00119614]
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wow..just looked at both the sites...though im not so sure about the moon landing being fake (i suppose it could be...but the evidence on that site was kinda sketchy...)
but the pentagon thing was pretty shady...there was nothing in any of the pictures ive seen that would lead me to believe a plane was involved come to think of it (though i havent seen the recently released footage)..but i havent really thought about it until know..which i guess was the point
what im wondering is ...if what damaged the pentagon wasnt a plane...why did they lie about it? ...and where is the fourth plane? hmmm
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AMinal
from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-03-10 07:28 [#00119618]
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ok i agree with u guys that the average person definitly lives in ignorance of the "real" world
people control what we see, and therefore what we think and do, and thats dangerous
there are definitly HUGE misconceptions, lies, etc created on purpose
all i was saying, was that the EVIDENCE offered on that moon landing site was absolute bullshit
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JOB
from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-03-10 07:59 [#00119627]
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Holy shit that pentagon one is amazing. I seriously believe something is up there. Perhaps they did it to get people even more mad at the terrorists (well assuming the us did it, tho i can c them bombing the pentagon themselves). Pehaps a terrorist got in with an armed vechicle and the US doesnt want people to think its that easy to do. Either way the US government and the US militairy can all go to hell, because they are full of shit and i have no respect for them.
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kalaim badkaama
from Apt 512 in Gilmour Orbiter (Re on 2002-03-10 09:54 [#00119659]
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This is shit. yer gov lies to you all. HAR HAR HAR!!!
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E-man
from Rixensart (Belgium) on 2002-03-10 10:46 [#00119671]
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landing on moon = not fake... but maybe a fake video to calm peoples expectations. And i think russians putted a man in space before americans pentagon, maybe a missile fired by some isolated people, as job says it's kept secret to not make people affraid
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-03-10 11:04 [#00119678]
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george W bush had more to do with 9/11 than osama bin setup. he is probably dead anyways - he was a feeble-minded rich saudi with all kinds of internal organ failures imminent. if he is not dead, he is probably in the Pentagon being attended to by the president's personal physician - maybe he will suddenly be "captured" when he dies...
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wayout
from the street of crocodiles on 2002-03-11 05:08 [#00120568]
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the weirdest thing about the pentagon issue..is that it is rather evident in the pictures that there was no plane...
if that is true..what happened to the fourth hijacked plane?
did anyone watch that 9/11 show? the whole event still seems really surreal...
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-03-11 05:15 [#00120569]
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i saw the whole thing unfold live - just a stroke of luck really - i was waiting for diagnosis: murder to start after neighbours, when a special newcast said that a plane had crashed into one of the WTC - at that point, they didn't even think that it was a terrorist act.
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Contour Regard
from Herscher (come and find me) (United States) on 2002-03-11 06:45 [#00120594]
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the pentagon one was very interesting, and i've seen the moon one a many times, there is some website that gives physics facts and such to disprove that site
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D-Hex
from Blue Springs Missouri (United States) on 2002-03-11 08:13 [#00120624]
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The pentagon thing is very fugged up.
The question of the conspiracy is, what do they have to say about the eye witnesses that were outside of the pentagon when the plane did fly into it? Or were there any????
I saw an episode of 20/20 and it had a flight control lady on there that was tracking the plane, and she said it was aimed at the white house, then turned around and went for the pentagon......so did the government pay her off or what?
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Vader
from € Lisbon, PT on 2002-03-11 18:53 [#00121450]
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Yeah I think E-man just gave the money anwser there, a fake movie to calm down everyone and show the world that the americans did went to the moon, I always thought that phrase sounded a little to dramatic:
Neil Armstrong: "I'm at the foot of the ladder...I'm going to step off...now. That's one small step for man. One giant leap for mankind."
Even if i did written down he would be too much exited to even say a phrase like that so a fake movie but a true landing on the moon I think we got it and in that I can believe.
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D-Hex
from Blue Springs Missouri (United States) on 2002-03-11 19:45 [#00121514]
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Good call vader,,,i never really noticed that now that i think about it.
By the way my dog is snoring,,,anyone else have this problem?
Shall i kick her?
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toyrex
on 2002-03-13 20:26 [#00124830]
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george bush = satanist
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