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offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-06-10 02:35 [#01917047]
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heard it now. very similar to spokes, i dont mind it but its
definately not my favourite plaid. im still going to buy the
proper thing, to see the videos too.


 

offline nacmat on 2006-06-11 11:17 [#01917791]
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what is the dvd I got to get? pal or the other?


 

offline nacmat on 2006-06-11 11:32 [#01917799]
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I need an answer


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2006-06-11 11:36 [#01917802]
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DVD-Video discs require a DVD-drive and an MPEG-2 decoder
(e.g. a DVD-player, or a DVD computer drive with a software
DVD player). Commercial DVD movies are encoded using a
combination of MPEG-2 compressed video and audio of varying
formats (often multi-channel formats as described below).
Typical data rates for DVD movies range from 3–10 Mbit/s,
and the bit rate is usually adaptive. The typical video
resolution for an NTSC disc is 720 × 480, while a PAL disc
is 720 × 576. The specifications for video files on a DVD
can be any of the following:

* Up to 9.8 Mbit/s (9800 kbit/s) MPEG2 video
* Up to 1.856 Mbit/s (1856 kbit/s) MPEG1 video

* PAL:

720 × 576 pixels MPEG2 (Called full D1)
704 × 576 pixels MPEG2
352 × 576 pixels MPEG2 (Called Half-D1, same as the
China Video Disc standard)
352 × 288 pixels MPEG2
352 × 288 pixels MPEG1 (Same as the VCD Standard)

* NTSC:

720 × 480 pixels MPEG2 (Called full D1)
704 × 480 pixels MPEG2
352 × 480 pixels MPEG2 (Called Half-D1, same as the
China Video Disc standard)
352 × 240 pixels MPEG2
352 × 240 pixels MPEG1 (Same as the VCD Standard)

All MPEG video must be 25 frames per second on PAL DVDs. On
NTSC DVDs MPEG-2 video can be either 29.97 frames per second
or 23.976 frames per second, (with 3:2 pulldown) while
MPEG-1 video can only be 29.97 frames per second.
Interlacing is only supported for MPEG-2 video on both PAL
and NTSC DVDs. 16:9 anamorphic video is only supported at
720x576/480. Note that some DVD-hardware or software players
may play discs whose MPEG files do not conform to the above
standards- however these discs are non-compliant with the
specification for DVD-video. Some hardware players will now
play DVD-ROMs or CD-ROMs containing MPEG video files - these
are 'unauthored' and lack the file structure that defines a
DVD-video. (These files contain extra information, such as
the number of video tracks, chapters and links to extra
features, which DVD players use to navigate a DVD-video).


 

offline nacmat on 2006-06-11 11:55 [#01917808]
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so what shall I get?



 

offline melack from barcielwave on 2006-06-11 13:15 [#01917826]
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PAL


 

offline recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2006-06-11 13:58 [#01917841]
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PAL:Is common amongst European contries
NTSC:common amongst America



 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-06-11 13:59 [#01917842]
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its PAL 2 in UK. is it 1 in europe?


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-06-11 14:01 [#01917845]
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generally, PAL is slightly better quality than NTSC anyway.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-06-11 14:03 [#01917846]
Points: 47414 Status: Moderator | Followup to Ezkerraldean: #01917842



what..?

PAL is the standard for Europe and Europe also falls into
region 2.

most of the world views the UK to be part of Europe.


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-06-11 14:06 [#01917847]
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well, yeah i know it technically is, but i thought it had
its own DVD code. the whole idea seems a bit random and
pointless


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-06-11 14:12 [#01917849]
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it's all based on being able to bring out the DVD version of
a film in one part of the world and still being able to
bring out the cinematic version somewhere else and making
lots of money out of both!

0 Informal term meaning "playable in all regions"
1 Bermuda, Canada, United States and U.S. territories
2 The Middle East, Western Europe, Central Europe, Egypt,
Greenland, Japan, Lesotho, South Africa and Swaziland
3 Southeast Asia, Hong Kong, Macau, South Korea and Taiwan
4 Central America, the Caribbean, Mexico, Oceania, South
America, Australia
5 The rest of Africa, Former Soviet Union, the Indian
subcontinent, Mongolia, North Korea
6 Mainland China
7 Reserved for future use
8 International venues such as aircraft, cruise ships, etc.


7 will probably be Moonbase 2.


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-06-11 14:14 [#01917850]
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aha!

yeah i thought so, its basically just another way of ripping
people off



 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2006-06-11 14:20 [#01917855]
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beta max!


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-06-11 14:20 [#01917858]
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betamax beats the shit out of these lame newfangled DVD
thingeys. i love those big chunky black old things!


 

offline nacmat on 2006-06-11 16:57 [#01917956]
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so what is this?

a new album?

is it good?


 

offline melack from barcielwave on 2006-06-11 18:52 [#01918052]
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es un PALazo!
hah


 

offline recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2006-06-11 19:22 [#01918066]
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yes


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2006-06-11 19:35 [#01918070]
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Poor Plaid 8 (

even they think it's crap. I hope there's a corner they'll
turn pretty soon.


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2006-06-11 20:07 [#01918083]
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I bet it took too long, too ambitious, then it all went a
bit pooy. I am encouraged by that track on the Renaissance
thing and I think they should knock out a punk IDM lp in
record time.


 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2006-06-11 23:18 [#01918126]
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why won't they release their other, non-collaborated,
non-crap album? that's probably already finished too by now.
everybody would be happy again and warp sells double the
amount. it's a win-win solution.


 

offline Roboman from Stockholm (Sweden) on 2006-06-13 02:54 [#01918863]
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and the videos are great so they´ve managed to achieve an
interesting release. but as far as the music goes i would
say it´s the weakest they put out


 

offline Aesthetics from the IDM Kiosk on 2006-06-13 03:34 [#01918875]
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What are you all talking about.. this is an awesome Plaid
release!
I can't wait to get/see the whole package.



 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2006-06-13 03:41 [#01918879]
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so why don't you just fucking NOT listen to this release.
you already told what you think about it in this thread,
thank you, why repeat it over ?


 

offline Aesthetics from the IDM Kiosk on 2006-06-13 03:45 [#01918881]
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Because it's Roboman, he must like to repeat himself.


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2006-06-13 03:48 [#01918883]
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my bad then

i shall give him some computer love


 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-06-13 08:06 [#01918981]
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I remember people saying "Spokes" was crap when that came
out on this forum, and when I heard it I was pleasantly
shocked that it was so beautiful. In fact, I really can't
understand the cold reception it recieved; it's really
powerful stuff, and I've noticed people who aren't normally
into this music also appreciate it.

I haven't heard the new stuff yet, but I don't think this
harsh reception means anything.


 

offline recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2006-06-13 21:32 [#01919558]
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This harsh reception means nothing at all.

spokes and p-brane spun all weekend :)


 

offline recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2006-06-13 22:49 [#01919588]
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Super Positions

The lead track 'Super Positions' is taken from the upcoming
Plaid & Bob Jaroc CD + DVD project Greedy Baby.. :=)

Sounds very nice, cant wait to see it with visuals


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2006-06-14 02:22 [#01919607]
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i predict "I Citizen the Loathesome" to be awesome


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-06-14 02:39 [#01919613]
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caretstik on super positions? ive already got that!

video shows buildings and streets split into blocks like the
warp 10+1 10+2 12+3 covers, all the blocks flashing and
fading. quite good. track is boring though


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-06-14 02:48 [#01919614]
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caretstik


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-06-14 02:54 [#01919617]
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not illegal !!!


 

offline Combo from Sex on 2006-06-14 11:44 [#01919912]
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"Super positions" is nice ! Haven't heard the rest yet.


 

offline staz on 2006-06-14 11:45 [#01919913]
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ahahhahahahha


 

offline kittylamurka from United Kingdom on 2006-06-14 17:45 [#01920192]
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might be seeing them on Fri


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2006-09-03 07:56 [#01964248]
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this album is a grower. i just discovered another layer in
"The Launching of Big Face". amazing.


 

offline staz on 2006-09-03 07:59 [#01964249]
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the launching of utter crap


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2006-09-03 08:06 [#01964250]
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about me you are officially banned


 

offline BoxBob-K23 from Finland on 2006-09-03 10:25 [#01964323]
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the critical community seems to act like hales hitting a
sloping roof: they fall into one or the other extreme end -
and, to extend the metaphor, fall down one or the other
drain...

For me this album is first and foremost a collaboration, not
only between Andy, Ed and Bob, but also between audio and
video.

Even having said that, there are a few standalone tracks
that should work without the visuals, including Super
Positions, Return of Super Barrio and The Launching of Big
Face.

Since the audio leaked before the video, I understand why
some people would have been disappointed, but the commercial
end product is an excellent release, to be enjoyed in a good
audio-visual set up. I'm looking forward to hearing it on
5.1!


 


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