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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-05-28 18:42 [#01908702]
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video (stream) - beware, this is extremely shocking
info (07/08/05)
there's a petition on that page for maximum jale sentence. i think it's still valid as they haven't been sentenced yet
p.s. probably lots of you know about this already etc.. but i hadn't seen the video so i assumed that some may have not seen it either.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2006-05-28 18:54 [#01908704]
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fuck them all. stupid cunts. why is everything so shit? nothing left is real anymore. it's all synthetic crap, what's the fucking point? fucking money is our fucking god.
it's horrible, i hate it. people fueled by fear, like fucking dogs, stupid fucking dogs. who gives a shit about the mother cunting idiots. fuck them all into the fucking ground. fucking capitalism, sickens me in every way. it's pathetic, i conform like the rest, and the majority never even stop to think about how fucking shit everything is. nothing will get better. it's all going down the shitter. fuck religion. fuck it all. fuck the world. fuck the idiots.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-05-28 19:04 [#01908706]
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well said
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2006-05-28 19:17 [#01908709]
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no I mean you're a fucking idiot
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-05-28 19:19 [#01908710]
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good to hear. thanks
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2006-05-28 19:24 [#01908711]
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no problem
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-05-28 19:26 [#01908712]
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perhaps you'd rather watch this
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2006-05-28 19:33 [#01908717]
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I'd rather watch your face fall off.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2006-05-28 19:34 [#01908718]
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just kidding
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-05-28 19:34 [#01908719]
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i love you
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2006-05-28 19:39 [#01908721]
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kiss and make up you two!
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2006-05-28 20:00 [#01908724]
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Roffle, I have a folder full of ''Homosexual Hockey Pictures''. It's a pretty gay folder.
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zero-cool
on 2006-05-29 01:37 [#01908790]
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don't work, something fucked with my players, please help :(
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2006-05-29 02:39 [#01908804]
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that really is sick. bastards.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-05-29 03:08 [#01908818]
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is the sun normally considered a good or shit paper? 'cause that article is awful. And I'm not watching the video and I won't comment on what sentence they should get, but that article is just awfully bad for a newspaper.
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-05-29 03:13 [#01908822]
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the sun is a scum-of-the-earth ultra-conservative sensationalist tabloid. its not a newspaper
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-05-29 03:15 [#01908828]
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razorblades right though. this country seems to be going way way downhill lately. i cant stand the place anymore. i live in a small market town, its always thought of as an attractive rural paradise, but there have been times when i have genuinely feared for my life when walking through town at night. the whole image of the place is a massive lie. and its becoming true for the whole country.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-05-29 04:35 [#01908893]
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right, that makes sense when I read the article.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2006-05-29 04:39 [#01908896]
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ZOMG liek, ppl r siging da petition for MAX JALE SENTENSE!
whoaahhaoaahh
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stilaktive
from a place on 2006-05-29 05:02 [#01908902]
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you reakon it was just completly random?
if anyone comes at me with a knife ill run
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-05-29 05:08 [#01908906]
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i'm thinking something may have happened earlier on?
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2006-05-29 05:17 [#01908911]
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Justice as vengeance. It's great, isn't it?
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2006-05-29 11:43 [#01909068]
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I'm guessing the guy with the letters on the back of his sweater was the knife wielder as he's making stabbing motions at the victim with the white sweater. However, if I get stabbed that many times wearing a white sweater wouldn't it have turned red with blood in an instant? Was the vid real or a dramatized reconstruction of said incident?
Also, do you guys really have these surveillance cameras that are constantly watched by people who control them by joysticks? Apparently it's necessary though they're always gonna be too late to save people with it anyway so it's always gonna be purely courtroom material. Anyway if it's real, the knife wielding killer should get the death penalty, the other two henchmen a long period of jailtime.
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SValx
from United Kingdom on 2006-05-29 12:41 [#01909099]
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It's not fair for the public and the media to influence a trial before it's had chance to enter the court of law. I'm obviously against murder, but just because there is a petition to give someone maximum jail sentence, doesn't make it the right thing to do. This case deserves a full, unbiased court hearing, just like every other case. I refuse to read this article though if it is by the sun. This "newspaper" is biased and full of shit.
"WOAH CHECK OUT THE KNOCKERS ON THIS MURDER VICTIM!!!!!!!! ( o Y o )"
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SValx
from United Kingdom on 2006-05-29 12:42 [#01909101]
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those were supposed to me tits. Didn't work very well unfortunately
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2006-05-29 12:59 [#01909112]
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your tits? hey little girl, this isn't the kind of thread to show-off your tits. and come to think of it, it's probably the wrong board too.
girls nowadays...
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SValx
from United Kingdom on 2006-05-29 13:08 [#01909118]
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I meant BE tits.
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2006-05-29 13:13 [#01909122]
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yes, and now you're being a smartass too (_|_)
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-05-29 13:16 [#01909125]
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word
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2006-05-29 16:39 [#01909270]
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Gee, showing them all high fiving each other before the murder doesn`t send the wrong message or anything.
"If your kid hangs out with black people, though they seem charming and happy go lucky, they will influence your white child to stab and murder your post secondary educational child for no reason."
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-05-29 16:53 [#01909280]
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daily mail article
"At the time of the attack, Dan and I were just sitting, chatting and laughing, remembering our holiday and talking about my 20th birthday celebrations - we had just enjoyed a night out in Romford with our friends and were waiting for a lift home from Dan's sister when we were attacked.
"Seconds later Dan was dead. I still can't believe it."
bbc news
the times
sorry to have put the sun as the main source of info
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-05-29 16:58 [#01909283]
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i just made the observation that the man in the black polo shirt used his car keys when he punched the murdered victim. and it was not the black guy who did the stabbing
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2006-05-29 17:09 [#01909297]
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I am shocked and sickened. I hope when they get sent down they are severley raped ande tourtured for the rest of their miserable lives. But the chances are that they will be out in five years. Fuckers
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-05-30 04:30 [#01909553]
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I agree with SValx that a case should be impartial to the pressures of the press. What I don't have a problem with, however, is the Sun citing this case as reason to change the sentencing for knife crimes in general.
Knifing is awful and it's getting a bit like Spain in many places in the UK; scum carry a knife as a matter of course and have few qualms about using them. It's a tricky one though; you can't just ban carrying knives completely, or even penalise people for having them. There are plenty of situations where I carry a knife or screwdriver for perfectly legitimate reasons and there are jobs where it'd be impractical not to.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-05-30 04:36 [#01909554]
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Well, in canada, people who have a tenancy for criminally violent behavior are banned from carrying things like knives, and sticks.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-05-30 04:38 [#01909556]
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canada is a good example of a pleasant safe society. i heard that crime isn't a problem. is this true?
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unabomber
from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2006-05-30 04:46 [#01909562]
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like Spain?
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-05-30 04:46 [#01909563]
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the sun is a newspaper not some legal or political instance! at least they shouldn't be.. no newspaper should; they should all just report the news, not carry out judgement and make ethical statements about various things.. it's like fucking fox news or whatever that murdoch characters network is called! also, the sun isn't calling for changing the sentencing of knife violence, they're just calling for these people to get the highest possible sentence.
I've had this idea for a while about making a newspaper or newspaper addition thing called something like "Facts." wherein the only things reported are the particular facts about whatever situation is being reported and in cases where it would be required a guide to interpreting or reading data (like a graph of something or a national budget) for people who don't necessarily already know how to. The use of colouring words ("awful," "tragedy," etc) would be excluded from this newspaper. The articles wouldn't be written by reporters, but rather by people who actually know what they're talking about; people with an education in whatever the report is about. Of course, there'd be some kind of quality control making sure that particular researchers paradigm didn't colour the article, but I also realise that a completely uncoloured presentation of anything at all would be quite impossible. I think I may have to do something about this idea soon...
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-05-30 04:49 [#01909569]
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I think ceri is a bit right-wing...
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unabomber
from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2006-05-30 04:50 [#01909571]
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The facts you choose/exclude are a judgement.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-05-30 04:51 [#01909573]
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it would be impossible to create a truly objective newspaper as at the end of the day you're still selecting what pieces of news you put in the paper. the gatekeeper remains.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-05-30 04:51 [#01909574]
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damnit, somebody else has done sociology
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unabomber
from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2006-05-30 04:52 [#01909575]
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hmmm... seems like he is...
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-05-30 04:53 [#01909577]
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word I know.. it would be difficult, but an effort would at least be made; there's no objectivity, but... I guarantee it'd be better than what's out there right now.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-05-30 04:55 [#01909578]
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oh, I thought about that... it would be based on what the other newspapers report; if they report a "super victory in the war against terror!" we'd simply report casualties and injuries, what moves were made and which tactics were emplyed, etc.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-05-30 04:56 [#01909580]
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i'm sure it's been tried in the past and failed. the mainstream (the idiots) like their news to be about sensation. that's why the sun is the uk's biggest selling tabloid.
if you weren't concerned about the mainstream though, i would be interested in reading this 'facts only' paper. go for the niche audience. they're the ones that matter.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-05-30 04:57 [#01909581]
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I mean.. it's surprising how rarely one actually gets any sort of data on what happened in articles... they just report vague things like "at 8 the forces moved in and secured the victory." or something...
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-05-30 05:00 [#01909583]
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i agree. how would you go about obtaining the information? reading other newspapers? lol
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2006-05-30 05:01 [#01909585]
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a lad that was an aquiantance of mine got stabbed to death here in wilmslow last year. its terrible. it can happen anywhere. i personally think the government is far too soft. there never seems to be any fucking justice. cant wait for the next election.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-05-30 05:02 [#01909587]
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I don't think it's really fair to call the mainstream people idiots. they're just uninformed because of the shit quality of news.
also, I said it would be a newspaper or newspaper addition.. I realise it'd be too hard to present data for every days news, but I think it could be a nice addition at, like, the end of the week, and it would be included inside another newspaper, like with those magazine-ish thingies that just report silly fashion stuff... it would be a quite too dry newspaper to stand on its own, but when it is something "extra," I think people would read it. This is also a compromise (no thing is 100%) as I'd really like for it to be independent of anything else, but I also realise that to reach more people it'd most likely have to be either a free newspaper (but I hate ads) or a part of another. In that case, it would of course be the one that's already closest to what I've sketched.
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