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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2006-05-15 17:34 [#01899405]
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there can be no such concept as time
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-05-15 17:53 [#01899412]
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Is that from Mary Whitehouse? I can't remember.
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05
from vita contemplativa on 2006-05-15 17:55 [#01899413]
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cornfield
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2006-05-15 17:57 [#01899414]
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i was doing one of those quiz machines and i was up for £20 and it gave me that question
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2006-05-15 17:57 [#01899416]
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i'm on slsk if you want to risk your sanity...
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2006-05-15 18:05 [#01899417]
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the other day i won 4 quid on Who did the soundtrack to the first Highlander film
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2006-05-15 18:05 [#01899418]
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time is only relative
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2006-05-15 18:09 [#01899419]
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i hate those deliberate "no fucking chance" questions.
i.e., when did elizabeth taylor have her first facelift?
A 1968 B 1969 C 1970
even richard burton wouldnt know.
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2006-05-15 18:15 [#01899420]
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you do the answers i'll do the buttons
its c
no b
*hits c*
you crossed a line there. i dont think i could trust you in a combat situation
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OK
on 2006-05-15 19:32 [#01899434]
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you can make an extensioin of descartes cogito ergo sum, apply it to memory therefore giving meaning to time through conscience then history is a result of trusting existance.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-05-15 19:48 [#01899436]
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It's a shame you can't speak english.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2006-05-15 20:26 [#01899447]
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no it isnt
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OK
on 2006-05-15 22:30 [#01899473]
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why?
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OK
on 2006-05-15 22:30 [#01899474]
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why not?
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-05-16 03:02 [#01899522]
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Relative to what?
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darkpromenade
from Australia on 2006-05-16 03:03 [#01899523]
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ed zachary!!!!!!!
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DaggerHappy
from Australia on 2006-05-16 03:37 [#01899538]
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i think it's just an error on imdb, i think someone would have realised by now if it really was on there
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-05-16 03:40 [#01899539]
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we will be taken over by the borg!
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-05-16 11:27 [#01899879]
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The Sims is a shit game.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2006-05-16 11:28 [#01899881]
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More stuff coming soon people...
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2006-05-16 11:33 [#01899885]
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history = interpretation of past events time = arrangement of events
simply put: if an interpretation is relative (which it is, of course), the concept of time can still exist
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-05-16 12:55 [#01900012]
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but even the concept of time is a concept, and therefore an interpretation of reality?
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2006-05-16 12:56 [#01900014]
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that's a big fat F you just got yourself there.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-05-16 13:01 [#01900019]
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But if there is literally no physical difference between a moving and a non-moving arrow in any given discrete instant, then how does the arrow know from one instant to the next if it is moving?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-05-16 13:04 [#01900028]
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how do we know the arrow knows anything?
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-05-16 13:05 [#01900030]
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We don't know what the arrow knows or whether the arrow knows anything. For all we know the arrow knows not of what we know or it knows everything of what we know of what it knows.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2006-05-16 13:06 [#01900032]
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i withdraw the statement
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2006-05-16 13:24 [#01900061]
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but the concept of time has no meaning the way history has. if the Germans would have won WOII, the historical meaning of WOII would be totally different. the events describing WOII could be totally different, but the space and time would be exactly the same.
on the other hand, if you travel with the speed of light, it would be possible that sequence of events could be rearranged from the observer's point of view. not sure, though.
nevertheless, the relativeness of history doesn't implicate that there's no such thing as time.
F yourself earthleakage
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-05-16 13:25 [#01900064]
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but time is very relative - everyone has had moments when it feels like 'time flies' or when time seems to slow down.
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2006-05-16 13:29 [#01900066]
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there's a difference between psychological/perceived time and physical time. light travels with the same speed and takes the same amount of time to travel a certain distance, no matter how long it 'felt'.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2006-05-16 13:46 [#01900079]
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i didn't say the relativeness of history implies no such concept of time i said if all history is relative. which it isn't. which makes the initial statement neither correct nor incorrect, but a mere discussion point, metaphysical in its solipsisticality. there is nothing to 'prove', and you've just fallen into the old over opiniated holier than thou trap which makes you look like a bit of an idiot.
my F comment was mean to be lighthearted, i was merely suggesting that you would've failed had you written that answer down in an exam or on a paper. i could pick holes until the cows came home in all of what you've said but your unpleasant remark and your own misguided convictions that you already know everything makes it a rather fruitless exercise really.
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2006-05-16 14:06 [#01900097]
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o, i took the F comment lighthearted actually.
funny that you give me a 'lighthearted' grade, where you say i fall for the 'holier than thou trap'. i don't think i'm the only one with misguided convictions here...
if you could have picked holes in what i've said, why didn't you? this ad-homini thing is pretty pathetic, actually.
o, and to come back to your point: i don't see the difference between " the relativeness of history" and "all history is relative", but that's just my holier point of view...apparently
but hey, you're right, relatively speaking
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2006-05-16 14:32 [#01900105]
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IF all history is relative. i'm not saying it is!
IF a THEN b.
im really sorry, very little of what you say makes any sense to me
but anyway most of my last post was a trumped up joke, parodying know-it-all idiots, i do that all the time.
and the initial post wasn't even meant to engage any fruitful kind of debate, i posted it while i was drunk, and it is a reference to a comedy show from 15 years ago about always getting a bastard hard question on those quiz machines when you're just about to win some money.
sorry.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-05-16 15:35 [#01900173]
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time is, time was, and time will be.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2006-05-16 19:58 [#01900362]
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I thought time was all relative. I'm pretty sure history isn't. I mean, if history was relative then it wouldn't really be based on fact (or would it?)
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staz
on 2006-05-16 19:59 [#01900364]
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then my relatives are history
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-05-16 20:01 [#01900367]
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What the beat is WOII ?
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2006-05-16 20:03 [#01900369]
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If it is relative, then... uhhh
*cannot compute...*
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-05-16 20:04 [#01900371]
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WWII - it's 'wereld oorlog' in Dutch.
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big
from lsg on 2006-05-17 01:47 [#01900437]
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postmodern crap
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