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ok, I really really want a hardware sampler now, but as far as I know they're all dead expensive.. however, I'm hoping for some recommendations for some reasonably priced ones... I need the ability to map a sample onto a keyboard so that I can play different pitches using the synth as a midi controller accurate cutting ability velocity/pressure sensitive pads a few easy effects (eq, vibrato, resonant filter ++.. the basics, so I guess most samplers have these) ..and maybe something else, but I can't think anything up right now... does anyone know if that cheap-ish electribe sampler thingie can do this? |
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yamaha a4000 |
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I don't think the Electribe will work as a midi controller accurate cutting ability velocity/pressure sensitive pads... |
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no pads |
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ok. what are the midi ins on those things for then? I've seen lots of samplers that have midi ins, but you can't really use the midi in for anything.. you can hook stuff up and feel good about yourself or something, but that's about it... |
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...hook a keyboard controller... |
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yeah, we tried that on my cousins sampler, but we couldn't really control anything with it... |
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Well, that doesn't mean it's not possible... But if you're lookin' for cool pads, the Akai MPC series seem the best. |
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yeah, I've been looking at the MPCs, but they don't seem to have that keyboard mapping ability either... I don't just want to use the keyboard to play back the sounds on each pad, I want to use it to map a sound all across the keyboard so that I can play the different pitches with the sample. |
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plus they're damned expensive |
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And don't trust me, 'cause here's the sampler I use actually... |
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haha, that looks awesome! |
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Sure they have it! |
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they have pitch play? I read through the manual (mpc1000), but it didn't seem like I could do much more than trigger individual sounds from the keyboard while pitch playing was something I could only do with the pads or something and then only within one octave... |
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Well, never had one in my hands actually. But I'm quite sure the pitch can be controlled with a keyboard... Best you can do is wait for the tech geeks (Taxidermist maybe) and they will fill you with good advice. BTW, I can sample my fart, reverse it, loop it, map it across all keyboard and play a melody with it in my SK1 in less time than you say WHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISKEY!! Or DETRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRROIT!!! But not MASSSSSSSSSACHHUSSSSSSSETTTTTTTTSSSS!!!! |
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can you do KKKKKKKUUUUUUUUUAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLUUUU UUUUMMMMMMMMMPPPPPPPPPUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR! !! ? |
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Yeah! And still plenty of time left for some belly dancin'... |
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kualalumpur? |
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mais oui |
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You need the Yosemite sampler :) |
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oooooo! I'll get right on it! |
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casio sa-5 is better or even the bestest, because I use it ! |
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I heard Aphex uses one. I think each of those embroidered fish/trees/etc. is a trigger pad. |
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oh, I thought it was one of those you controlled through meditation and prayer..? |
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Whooooa!! Nice one. Looks quite similar to tha SK1... How much you want for it? |
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it's priceless. but someday it's gonna be worth zillions. [in other words: sorry, it's not for sale] [yet] |
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Get an mpc. But what other things do you want. The yamaha aX000 series is somewhat affordable, they are suposed to sound pretty decent and have a vast array of neat effects. Akai sX000 samplers are really good. If you have over a thousand dollars you can get one of the akai z samplers. But buying a sampler really isn't that expensive. Go conservative, get yourself a used akai s3000 for $200 or so, or a yamaha a4000 (those go used for $300 tp $400). An akai s1000 will cost you less than $100. I would suggest an mpc tho. MPC 1000. It rocks. |
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ok, so you can confirm that the mpc 1000 has all the features I need? the most important one is really the ability to map one sample over the entire keyboard... |
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you cant sample with the SA-5 can you? |
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Well, insofar as I use it, it has a lot of features that I find I need. You can map the samples across the pads, or across your keys, but that takes a bit of time. They probly have something to do that, but I never use it, or ever feel the need to use it, so I haven't looked into it. What you can do is when you press a pad that is assigned to a sample, you can press the 16 levels button, and it gives you the option to temporarily map that sample from the lowest note at pad 1 to the highest note at pad 16. It will automatically recal that assignment afterwards, until you switch it off... But you can copy a note to a bunch of different pads, and then just change their tune. |
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no, but i can use its sounds as samples |
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yeah, I don't really mind if it takes time, I just want to be able to do it.. it shouldn't be too hard if I just want one sample stretched out across the entire keyboard anyway.. I'd just have to set lower, upper and root unless they have a really silly system... is it also possible to create a loop within a sample? like if I have a sample of a sinewave (to keep it simple) and I map this to the keyboard, it'll be shorter and shorter the higher the notes I play so I'd need to loop a part of it as long as the key is pressed... |
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Yeah. You can loop sounds with it. |
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Seriously. Everything is covered. You don't need a computer at all. you can even mix down loops onto compact flash within it. Automate effect sends. Record samples while its playing for things like doing basslines or scratching. Lots of fun stuff. |
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yeah, but just a part of the currently selected sound, right? I tried a very small sampler thingie (one of those you hold in your hand) and the only loop setting it had was to loop the entire sample.. I have no idea what's "normal" for samplers as I haven't really played around with them too much and shops only have some in stock (they usually stock crap ones for some reason) so there isn't much for me to try out or play around with... |
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I guess I'll keep an eye out for a used one then or hope someone has a mega-sale or something 'cause I don't have 10000 kroner to spend on it... |
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No. You can loop all your different sounds at various points. You can even turn looping on and off while its playing. Its not like you have one selected sound. You can have upt to 64 different sounds in each program, and have something like 64 different programs happening being sequenced simultaniously, so provided you haven't maxed out the memory, you can have something like 4000 different sounds in one sequence. You can also arrange sequences in the song arranger, and have up to 99 different sequences happening. It can get pretty massive. |
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Yeah. They are great. Get one if you ever find them at a price you can afford. They can go for very reasonble prices on ebay. |
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Although don't quote me on those numbers. I have never come close to maxing out the alloted programs. I usually end up maxing out the memory first. |
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just ordered a mpc-1000 black a few days ago. i have wanted one for quite some time, can't wait! is it easy to get to grips with, does it have a long learning curve? |
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Hmmm. It took me an hour to get all the basics down. Its easy to forget a few of the more specific things, but you eventually remember where everything is. You should sit there with the manual at side for the first couple days. One note tho: some people think when you are trimming samples, you can't change the resolution of the selector. You can. All you need to do is hold down shift and press the left cursor button. That won't make sence to you until you try to edit a sample, but it will save you a lot of needless frustration. Have fun!! |
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korg eelctribe esx has built in 'keyboard' sample playing - and you can loop any part of the sound. no velocity, but instant midi keyboard works, lots of efx...less memory than in mpc 1000, this is more fore sound design than performance, for which the mpc is unbeatable. |
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interface is everything. Id get an mpc... I want a 2000xl though. |
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I've allways wanted a SP-303. |
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The features of the 1000 are pretty much the same as a 2000xl. The only thing it doesn't have is a tilted screen. |
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I've got a SP303. The sampling section is a bit rubbish, but good for loading up with an 808 on banks A and B, then atmospheric loops and longer stuff on the memory card on C and D. The effects section is killer. Some of the effects are excellent. And the bit where you can turn off the LFO for the phaser and manually adjust it is great. Tape delay is a lot of fun to play with as is the formant thingy. Editing samples and moving them around, etc is a pain, so just do it on computer transfer them on memory card and leave them once they are on. use the memory like i said, A/B as a drum kit and C/D as longer looped atmosphereics, etc and its a brilliant box of tricks when you need to inject something into a mix. |
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the MPC series will do you right it has mapping capability for playing pitched samples plus you can asign the slider to act as a bitch bend would but it has more of a pitch portamento effect aside from that the sequencer is ultra tight it never fails me but the baddest bitch of them all is the kurzweil using VAST absolutely limitless and bottomless as far as editing mangling and sound design creations it has the best FX board you can get and dont forget the Triple Modular Synthesis bonus and it automaps your samples into programs for playback |
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bottomless can be a detriment |
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I've wanted one of those kurzweil samplers for a while now, but I never actually get a chance to talk to someone who has used one. So they are as good as they sound? |
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wait a second. Do you know a way to automap samples across the keyboard? or is their only the manual method? |
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