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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-05-04 12:24 [#01892640]
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Do you like it at all? What do you think are the best acts? Is it going to be big this year, next year, or is it going to die?
Tell me what you think!
Me, personally i love it, especially for the beats. Most grime lyrics i've heard are stupid, but thats not really the point. I love the energy.
My personal favourites:
Lethal Bizzle/fire camp: Really, some of the worst lyrics in grime, but excellent beats. Forward riddim (Pow) is a grime classic already. I really like his stuff. Heres a vid for forward riddim 2. Really weird beat, needs to be listened to loudly:
Fire camp
Reallion: Fresh beats. Lethal B also has his hands on this Reallion
Dizzee rascal: I think "boy in da corner" is a great album. The quiet moments are really good at times as well. Link to one of my favourite tracks with dizzee: Just a rascal
Thats enough for now. Let me hear what you think.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-05-04 12:35 [#01892647]
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Fi start bun a MC Bun fire pon a batty boy MC Pick up my hour disrespect me Man I go step in a him face with my new Nikey's 16 bar 16 skar 16 noog shot in a you raas Man a toppa toppa and lickle spar raas Better hide, me a bun them boy Bun grass
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-05-04 12:36 [#01892651]
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Thats dancehall
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2006-05-04 12:38 [#01892652]
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that fire camp thing... they really should have turned the tempo down about ten bpm, because they couldn't keep up with the beat. that's really annoying.
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Combo
from Sex on 2006-05-04 12:39 [#01892658]
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grime = crap
end.
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-05-04 12:41 [#01892660]
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I heard theres actually a french grime scene. What that about?
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2006-05-04 12:45 [#01892664]
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these rappers all have annoying voices and suck at rapping.
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Combo
from Sex on 2006-05-04 12:50 [#01892669]
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yeah there's a french grime scene, it sucks a lot as well ! they rap nonsense, that could be funny but they are wack mc's and their beats are not very good imo
check TTC - "dans le club" though, it's good and the lyrics are very funny !
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-05-04 12:53 [#01892670]
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I just think, for people who like electronic music, grime has some cool beats compared to a lot of music out there.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2006-05-04 12:55 [#01892675]
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you're right about that. but they ruin it by rapping in high-pitched yapping puppy voices about lizards and stupid shit.
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-05-04 12:58 [#01892679]
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Its an acquired taste i guess, the british accent. Its also works great live i think. Check out this clip from Kano live. Craaaaaap sound qaulity, but you get the idea:
Kano
Its starts of with a different track, and gets into some hard stuff, that really explodes at a point. Checkit!
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-05-04 13:00 [#01892681]
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Also, notice in that clip, theres a guy with a white cap who is completely glued to the ground. Hehe
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_gvarek_
from next to you (Poland) on 2006-05-04 13:00 [#01892682]
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I don't even know what grime is :-/
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-05-04 13:02 [#01892686]
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The Wikipedia defenition
And check out the clips
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_gvarek_
from next to you (Poland) on 2006-05-04 13:02 [#01892687]
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but after clicking the link I think I don't want to know
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mimi
on 2006-05-04 18:17 [#01892933]
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emalkay
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Combo
from Sex on 2006-05-04 18:19 [#01892935]
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"The grime scene is growing in France as well. The major UK players started coming in for some hectic sets during the end of year 2005. Some crews initially from the hip hop and the garage scene are producing tracks & releasing mixtapes: EGO6 , Audiomicid , ResoFantom/Dj Absurd , DJ Alsott, [[]]. RAW-T are massive in France compared to their home town."
I wonder if their howetown has more than 110 inhabitants cause I've never heard of them !
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mimi
on 2006-05-04 18:21 [#01892937]
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Anyway I don't know if what i like is called grime or if it's called 2 steps or whatever, but i like emalkay, kode9.....and ESPECIALLY toasty
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2006-05-05 07:48 [#01893232]
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Toasty & emalkay are both awesome, that bassline on "the knowledge" is fucking monolithic. Nice vex'd remix too. Kode9 i'm not so into, not the tunes he's done with the space ape anyway... that herby-mysticism patois he does gets right on my nerves. I don't think any of them are really grime though, dubstep really.
I'm not quite sure how to feel about a lot of "proper" grime stuff, it's really in-yer-face but quite subtle at the same time. Beats-wise i think it's a bit like electro, in that it's easy enough to pull off something that "sounds grimey" but really hard to find that special something to set it above the rest: point being, there's a lot of really mediocre 8-bar sine-wive bassline cack out there that sounds like it's being played through a phone speaker. But i don't think Production Values or whatever are the point...
Just listen to something like "anger management" by d double e. Mostly unintelligible, overdriven and clipping to buggery, but there's something just really, really heavy about it. I think accusing grime of being shite because the rhymes fall out of time is kind of silly too, it's the raw energy driving the track forward that really matters. Maybe it is something that has to grow on you.
Is it going to "be big"? I think it already is in a lot of places, it's just not that visible. The growth of the mixtape seems to have kinda put grime out of chart circulation, stuff just doesn't get a proper release. I mean, there's more of a vinyl culture to dubstep, but a lot only comes out on dub or test pressing... i'm hoping it doesn't go the same way as grime, where everyone's stuck listening to the same tunes on channel u and only a few djs get access to the newest stuff.
Anyway, personal favourites? Virus syndicate, slew dem, ironsoul, mr keas, geeneus, trim, devlin, d double e, blackmass plastics, warlock... tons of gems once you start looking.
Wow, that's a ramble and a half, sorry :)
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-05-05 12:21 [#01893436]
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I liked your ramble, and virus syndicate are awsome.
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somejerk
from south florida, US (United States) on 2006-05-07 09:11 [#01894303]
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i'm digging the instrumental stuff, i guess dubstep and stuff like vexed. i think that most of the time grime emcees are annoying. then again, i'm an american and i don't really understand wtf they're saying. it's probably not that important anyways.
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-05-07 10:09 [#01894330]
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is grime just some new rap bollox ?
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brokephones
from Londontario on 2006-05-07 11:58 [#01894405]
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I never got into it. I don't "get it"
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-05-08 02:25 [#01894683]
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Have you heard the (I think it's by Tinchy Strider) parody of "Just a Rascal", called "Just and Arsehole"?
Grime is good, but it ruins a track for me when lyrics sound like a motivational speech from a call centre team leader.
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-05-08 11:23 [#01894905]
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I heard that one, but i thought crazy titch made it? At least, Wiley, Lethal B and Dizzee are all hating each other apparently
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2006-05-08 11:53 [#01894923]
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Yeh it was crazy titch, didn't he get arrested for murder fairly recently? Over a diss track i think, i mean, grow up. Never thought much of his stuff anyway... i'll say one thing though, dizzee can't freestyle worth shit, it's embarassing.
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-05-08 12:00 [#01894927]
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Thats true. Crazy titch just uses the other peoples beats, to make shit. He's really not good. And no, dizzee cant freestyle at all. Have you seen the clip, where he's almost fighting dizze? Pretty funny actually. Very Grime. But i really love "Boy in da corner" i have to say. Really excellent beats.
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2006-05-08 12:04 [#01894931]
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Nah not seen it, got linkage? Agree totally about boy in da corner though, "i luv u" was the track that turned me on to all this stuff in the first place.
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-05-08 12:08 [#01894935]
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Dizzee and Crazy titch having a quarrel
The beat they are using is pretty neat as well
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2006-05-08 12:25 [#01894937]
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Bahahaha, christ. Grime so silly. And dizzee's especially cack on that vid... at least open your eyes when you're battling, man!
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2006-05-08 12:48 [#01894957]
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I don't get it.
Is this really a "movement"?
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2006-05-08 13:06 [#01894972]
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i enjoy about 40% of the tracks i hear, but its still pretty sweet. sometimes i have issues with the production, but i feel like in the last couple of years they've really started to get their act together... its not that i don't like it raw, its just that there's a fine line between good-raw and lazy sophomoric shit.
that said, some of the tracks on this new Sway album are waaaay too clean. still, charismatic guy.
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-05-15 12:13 [#01899208]
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Grime has come to sweden!
Max peezay
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2006-05-15 12:16 [#01899210]
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grymt
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-05-15 12:18 [#01899212]
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He's actually coming to roskilde. Skal man vel checke ud.
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-05-15 12:25 [#01899216]
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His own website
The swedish can certainly produce, no doubt about that.
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Mertens
from Motor City (United States) on 2006-05-15 17:40 [#01899407]
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Grime? It's a hell of a lot better that crunk I'll tell you that.
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2006-05-15 17:42 [#01899408]
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Agreed!
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BOB BONES
from Coventry (United Kingdom) on 2006-05-20 06:57 [#01902997]
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grime is big, ok some of the mc's are idiots and aint really saying anything, but there are some good mc's. for me grime is about the energy and the beats, nothing else like it. at the minute. If you looking for some decent tunes let me know and ill be happy to recomend you.
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2006-05-21 06:23 [#01903849]
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The Burial album is excellent
LAZY_BOOMKAT
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-05-21 06:34 [#01903857]
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Same for me. Please, reccomend away.
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-05-24 12:20 [#01906175]
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Just dug up this clip
Wiley vs Lethal bizzle
I'm guessing its not a cigarette he is smoking
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Mertens
from Motor City (United States) on 2006-05-24 12:25 [#01906181]
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Ha ha, I love that look on his face right before he starts spitin...
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-05-24 12:27 [#01906182]
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A pretty good Fire camp live perfomance of "No"
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-05-24 15:38 [#01906363]
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Cheers for bringing this up, dirty.
Yeah, it's a shame grime hasn't really exploded the way drum and bass did. Fucking hell, this decade sucks.
Have you heard Muscial Mob 2002 track "Pulse X"? It's meant to be the "seminal" grime instrumental. My favorite thing about the sound is those big, dirty gabba kicks as featured on Dizzee's I Luv U.
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furoi
from Udine (Eriko Sato's undies) (Italy) on 2006-05-24 15:56 [#01906379]
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it's kinda dancehall i bought a used copy of The Bug Cd on rephlex
i knew it was similar to dancehall...but i tought the tracks were without any fuckin lyrics
so it's kinda dancehall so i can lsiten to it only for 10 minutes per week
i prefer ragga jungle 10000 more...and i really enjoy it
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-05-25 02:16 [#01906529]
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You've got it all wrong, the bug doesnt make Grime, he in fact makes sort of "distorted dancehall". Also cool enough, but grime is a different thing. An easier listen, i think.
And Swears, i noticed you and i are often into the same stuff. I like that about you.
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furoi
from Udine (Eriko Sato's undies) (Italy) on 2006-05-25 03:35 [#01906565]
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i opened one of your suggested links and it sounded like that
probably i didn't pay attention
ps: i love your avatar
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-05-25 03:38 [#01906567]
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Hehe. Thanks. I actually like the bug. Saw him live, and it was madness!
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2006-05-25 03:58 [#01906573]
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Hey i really like TTC :/ gotta find some
i like bits and pieces of grime, but i am a fan of big wobbley bass and dirty cheap beats!
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