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Zero-cool's avatar reminded me i wanted to hear your opinions on Mr Gallo. As a musician i think he is hit and miss, on 'When' he has three really stand out tracks which i listen to frequently, but some of it is dull and 'indie durge'-ish. 'Recodings for Film' follows the similar vein, but his instrumentals, especially in 'Buffalo 66' feel really accomplished and really beautiful at times. Film maker? Buffalo 66 is a wonderful film, The Brown Bunny looks nice, but is a shitty movie. Your opinion? |
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i think he's a brilliant artist. just wish he'd have a better attitude to it. love his music, acting and directing. |
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I've never even heard of him |
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he's done some hip hop under prince vince alias and some others..i bet that would be something for ya dm. |
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did he fuck paris hilton? |
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i doubt it but apparently he fcuked plenty so probably even him can't be sure. |
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he's a good director, but not great. he's an interesting artist. and i don't like him. |
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his music bores me |
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he made one good film.. music isn't great.. boring presentation of himself in the media.. summarising: bleh. |
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he was dating your dream girl though. |
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he's poop. |
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I've only listened to "When". I think there are some good tracks, but some of it seems like a joke. He sounds like a 16 year old misfit on some of the songs. Like "I looove you, you are so beauuutifuuul. Why do you haaate me". I think he should have more people involved in process when he makes films. They somehow seems like ego-trips. Both directing, acting and makes the music. Check out his website for some good laughs, btw :) |
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great music, buffalo '66 = good, attitude = crap |
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buffalo '66 |
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ooops, I meant buffalo '66 has an awesome look. I wonder how that was done. The color looks like grad school color photography. And when his dad sings in front of the red wall and the warm glow comes from behind him. Beautifully done. Great film. He has talent. He is your classic bad boy. That's why he gets so much pussy. His music? Not my thing. He is a renaissance man. He also hung out with Basquiat. Which counts for something. |
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probably, 12, at a pinch |
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he does have quite a bit of decent music on Brown Bunny that wasn't by him... Gordon Lightfoot, Ted Curson... Jackson Frank... anyhow, i really like Brown Bunny quite a bit, except the more i think about it, the more i think the ending was just sort of stupid. that includes the blow job scene... it was just sort of pointless y'know? clearly he's an eogtist, but so was Miles Davis... i mean, he's interesting enough, but certainly no well... Miles Davis. |
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"he more i think the ending was just sort of stupid. that includes the blow job scene... it was just sort of pointless y'know? " that made me wonder about gallo for the first time, i wish he hadn't done that.. |
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ooops, I meant buffalo '66 has an awesome look. I wonder how that was done. it was shot with reversal stock, basically when the film is developed, it is a postive image, like a "slide" for stills. FILMMAKER: What was the initial motivation for shooting reversal? GALLO: The first movie I ever saw as a kid in a theater was Superbowl III, which was a documentary that I saw at father-and-son night. Of course, I didn't go with my father-I went with my friend's father. I fell in love with Johnny Unitas and the conservative right-wing politics of the Baltimore Colts. I became very against the self-centered, cocky, independent, drug-addicted womanizing of Joe Namath and the New York Jets. I immediately became a loyal devotee of the Colts and cried relentlessly for days after seeing the Colts lose in this documentary and was thrilled when, two years later, they beat Dallas and won Superbowl V. When I went back and looked at this footage, I realized that they shot old sporting events with reversal film. You know, I collect old HiFi equipment and guitars. I have always been attracted to a kind of 20th century technology before things develop to the point where they are homogenized and easy to use. Before that point, maybe things are difficult to use, but they have soul. The solid state circuit was invented to make things smaller and easier, but it was never an aesthetic choice. It never made things sound better. [cont] |
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[cont] "Well, reversal film was always incredible looking, but if you look at all the modem stocks, they are trying to generalize things in a way so that you can, in processing, do all sorts of fake manipulations to get all sorts of fake things. If reversal film had the kind of look I wanted, that kind of saturation and contrast that make things appear to have a soul, a sense of timelessness, then I was not going to be talked into faking that effect with some Fuji film by that prick Dick Pope or my twisted line producer. I had no clue technically what I was talking about, I only knew aesthetically what I was talking about. I had to learn. Talking to the people at Kodak, I discovered that based on my description of my aesthetic point of view, reversal film was what I was looking for. I didn't even know what the word "reversal" meant. I had never had a camera in my life. So I decided to shoot reversal. The people at Kodak said, "Well, first of all, it doesn't really exist, and we don't have it in 1000-foot rolls, and we don't have it doubleperfed, and you can't process it, and you can't print from it." But there was just no way I was going to take no for an answer. Kodak, the giant billionaire company in Rochester, you know-my film is not even a speckle in their evolution ~ on a weekend, cut 70,000 feet in 1,000-foot, double-perf rolls of 35mm film so that I could be ready to shoot on that Monday. Thank you Mr. Kodak." |
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also FILMMAKER: Did you ever feel that you created a problem that was simply too difficult to solve in the End? GALLO: Shooting reversal film created a very difficult processing problem with the interneg. We never did any tests or anything. After that first Brit queen Dick Pope quit because he's a frightened fairy who tried to talk me out of reversal film, I told my second cinematographer that I would kill him if he even mentioned once that there might be a problem. I put myself in a vulnerable position. |
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FILMMAKER: The producers must have freaked that you were doing this radical processing and they wouldn't really know anything about the film until months afterward. GALLO: What happened was, I sort of insisted on this reversal film and got them to make it before the bond company or the financiers really knew what it meant. The whole time I was thinking, This movie is never really going to happen. I'm not really directing the film. Once I felt I was making a good movie, I got very nervous. I thought, Great, I make a fucking good film and then like an asshole I have to film it on a stock you can't print. I thought, Classic Gallo! I can't just fucking make a film. I blew it! There were months there after filming where I was figuring out ways to raise money to make the movie all over again. I'm not kidding. When we went to look at the first optical prints of the film, it was so bad it was unwatchable because the contrast was so high up. The guy tells me, "I don't know why you shot this stock. I think you made a big mistake." Everybody says the same fucking thing my whole fucking life, "CD's sound better than records." Chicks say, "Can't you get a down comforter?" The guy at Pearl Paint says, "Don't use oil-based paint, use latex. It does the same thing." Yeah, suck my dick! So this guy tells me I have two choices: I can do these flashing and matting techniques which will cost a billion dollars or I can high definition digitally output it, which will cost two billion dollars. So here's how he ends the conversation: "Look at this film as a learning experience and next time you make a movie, make a movie that can get released and shown." |
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i've heard he's a certified dickhead supreme, but he makes some cool art. p.s. does anyone know where to find a like, better quality version of this video that he did? i know there used to be one on the world wide internets a couple of years ago. |
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.. you.. you like seeing Paris.. spinning..? |
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i have been know to enjoy a spinning paris from time to time. |
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"known", you silly imbecile, "known"!! |
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nvrmnd i found it lol |
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he's a douchebag. and buffalo '66 wasn't that good. |
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once upon a time I went to bed |
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then I died but then I was alive again I was remade to a robot that killed aliens and I said things like "die alien scum" "eat lead sucker!" "raaaaaaaaaaarg!" and "et phone mother fucking hoes!" |
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true story dot com |
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INVISIBLE HOT GIRLS ARE EVERYWHERE!!!!!!!!! |
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eror four oh fore hot girls not found |
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remember that blowjob in brown bunny? that was nice. i liked that. oh wait, that was chloe sevigny. but still... |
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i have the dvd which contains the spinning paris honey bunny video. i can make it available |
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my views: i think he does this for a laugh, then again not, as i once heard an interview with him, and he talked about his relationships, and how he was kicked out by his father at 16 years old, and from that experience he is trying to enjoy any close bonding relationship, trying to re-live it. i have not heard any of his music, can you please give the top3/4 names of songs that are his best? denniscpearce: good article thanks for the read, are you into film, like super 8? also i like him, he funny, te way he responds to people, i reckon he is just having a laugh, acting as an asshole, but acting his inner self as well at the same time. some artists lik salvador dali were so -semi-coscienece, in their social skills with things like money (dali once gave a taxi driver $100, because he did not know how much it was worth). he was so concerned of shocking the audience, or creating entertainment that he lost control of his social skills like ordinary things. i think that vincent gallo is the oppisite, he is very aware of the world and the physcoloy of the world, and also is faking a lot of shit, doing stuff like his political views to turn people away from him, like being racist, even if he does beleive in that conservitive crap. overall i like his films, buffalo 66 was good, weird and depressing like it is, the brown bunny was good, i totally got the wrong idea about the movie, i thought it was gonna be a biographical film of a 70's motorbike racer, cause i saw the still of the two people hugging, and the cover looked very 70s' with the brown leather jacket. post the names of the songs if you can, cheers |
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songs id rec. for now when so sad honey bunny yes im lonely laura those are all from the album 'when' (except for so sad which was released by itself), really his only album, the other cd, also on warp, 'recordings of music for films' is lots of old stuff, and while i like it, it is, as the title sugests, stuff from film scores and things, lots of little instrumental bits |
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on his site gallo, has a wanted list with items he wants, and hes listed an ARP 2500, i wanna hear some electronic based vincent gallo music, does it exsist? |
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that would be pretty cool. what dvd is it on? |
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o he's on warp |
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You can use a modular synth to process guitars and vocals. |
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that's the thing though - all that fake shock stuff is so fucking boring and been done to death. it doesn't take any creativity at all. |
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Thanks denniscpearce . That was very enlightening. I love that reversal film look. Good for him sticking to his guns. It's too easy to choose the well paved road. |
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its just on a dvd by itself, it was released in japan with the 'honey bunny' single |
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he got a blowjob from chloe sevigny in a movie so he is a cool guy |
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hes got a fat cock as well |
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I think Gallo is a genius! Even the painfully weird and almost stagnant road movie The Brown Bunny (yes, the one with the blowjob) lands on it's feet in the end. I saw it last night I must admit that I almost fell asleep several times. What is absolutely excelent about the movie is not the blowjob, but the soundtrack and the way it is applied to the film. Yep, I'm going to get hold of that soundtrack... |
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I agree with Co-existence, the soundtrack and it's application is wonderful. Jackson C. Frank is one of my favourite musicians and that film got me into him. I'm writing an essay soon (off my own back) about Vincent Gallo and his love for asthetic perfection, in not only his film but also his music as well. I'm quite excited. |
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souns interesting hit us up when its done |
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