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so, any creationists here? is there any scientific evidence that actually SUPPORTS CREATIONISM as opposed to evolution? (since everything creationists have ever said that i have seen involves quoting the bible/koran as fact, or talking about made-up gaps in the fossil record etc.) |
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weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee approx estimated post count guess (200+) |
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no. |
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no creationists, no, but to answer your other question about scientific evidence supporting their claims: yes. |
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I'm not posting in this thread. Have fun kids! (this post doesn't count) |
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You can prove anything with the right numbers. Look; 5051970159047519075-014 9571-9057091475-1=49075-1579-107510 349857-0875390857 09570945702394760972-9067208967 29085629085698654981264653486546 64346333843634686855934865349856 see? |
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Hi guys, like the discography threads, can we just keep all scientific evidence that supports creationism in here, and then that makes it easier for research students, scientists, terrorists who plan to destroy the very fabric of the universe etc, to find the facts that they might need. |
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yes? what is it then? ' _ ' |
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The Bible. It's God's Word, so you know it's true. |
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they basically use the same input as every other scientist, and in the same way as every other scientist, they interpret the data within their own paradigm. it's that easy. |
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you should really have made a separate thread for that post to avoid posting in this. |
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like, using the bible/their own beliefs as "proof"? |
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aw! my guess factored in both you and DM. Now i have to change everything. :'( approx est posts = (under 100) |
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evolution and creationism don't opose |
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you never know when i'm going to show up in a thread, though... i usually have something pretty controversial to say as well. usually involves calling someone a nasty name... |
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there was already a massive thread about this so this one should really be closed anyway. also, drunken mastah is wrong. |
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I keep hearing something about granite and some sort of isotope halflife when i hear dipshit creationists talk about scientific evidence of a creator. that and any straightish line that occurs naturally on the planet is noahs ark. but _mostly_ what i hear are attempts to debunk the theory of evolution, not necessarily proving creation.. |
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that rings a bell... |
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I slipped! You and fleetmouse are like the legion of doom (hawk and animal) of these threads. and i mean that in a good way. :) |
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everybody look at this picture. assume that these are fossilised, skeletal remains of an organism. |
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Yeah, there was another topic. It was also created by Ezkerraldean. Ezkerraldean, way to go, dude. |
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can you tell me what that animal eats? can you tell me where he lived? if he had fur? what time of the year he hibernated? can you tell me anything about his behavior? can you tell me if he stood upright? can you tell me if he used tools? if he listened to music? if he wrote books? |
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the point is, you cannot tell me anything about that animal besides the fact that it had bones. moreover, the bones could even belong to more than one animal. evolutionists look at these bones and then come up with diagrams like this connecting man and early apes, based upon fragments of bone and teeth no larger than the size of a coin; |
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Ha! So it's a "he". |
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diagrams like that establish a direct link between man and animal. there is no link between man and ape. we did not 'evolve' from them. the evidence used to prove this 'link' is a fucking tooth and a piece of a knee thats probably from a bird or a mother fucking washed up sea turtle. |
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Yeah science is a huge crock-of-shit. |
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so then whats left to believe after that? where did man come from? who the fuck cares, smoke some weed and listen to autechre - untilted. fuck your girlfriend... enjoy what you are, you have no idea where you came from. just know that you sure as fuck did not come from an ape however |
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but _mostly_ what i hear are attempts to debunk the theory of evolution, not necessarily proving creation.. unfortunately thats quite true. This is just based on the little that i have heard regarding creationism. I would honestly like to see them more structed in terms of presentation as opposed to attacking evolution 24/7. Because thats how it really seems it is. And i am not saying thats always a bad thing. If they are honestly disproving a certain idea or theory false then it should really be heard but if thats all it consists of and never contains scientific facts then there really isnt going to be alot of common ground shared between the two groups. |
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can you tell me what that animal eats? marshmallows. can you tell me where he lived? near the bowling alley on 110. if he had fur? yes, it was a very nice coat made of mink. what time of the year he hibernated? every winter, he'd fly to florida. can you tell me anything about his behavior? he was usually quiet, but after a few drinks, he'd often become really surly and sometimes throw the first punch. can you tell me if he stood upright? no idea. can you tell me if he used tools? he used a spanner and a drill press. if he listened to music? napalm death, ministry, and sometimes queen. if he wrote books? he wrote several, but they were never published. they were written under his pseudonym, R.F. MacDonald. |
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What about sharing over 99% of our DNA with chimps? Is it a trick of the devil? |
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this proves conclusively that you are a complete idiot. |
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its all about what you want to beleive.... subconciously or conciously if you want to believe in little green men you will find evidence everywhere for their existance |
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do ministr y still put out records? havent heard anything since dark side of the spoon |
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wow, that's so deep. do you publish a pamphlet? where can i pick one up - at the bus station? |
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yeah, they put out a piece of shit called Animositisomina, but then paul barker quit and al recorded Houses of the Mole` and it was good. |
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"this proves conclusively that you are a complete idiot." you work against my argument in that you can't put together a reason for saying something. that is not intelligent at all, so i could be wrong that we did indeed evolve from apes and youre the missing link r40f |
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that's actually not why i responded with a "i give up" answer. it's because your point was coming from your painfully-obvious lack of understanding of the subject. why don't you read a little bit about it before you make a fool out of yourself? |
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why don't you read a little bit about it before you make a fool out of yourself? why dont you? |
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haha cygnus don't be stupid. evolution is right. it's completly logic. but it's not understood. when you're a kid people throw at you ' evolution this evolution that' all the time tho you never really understand what it is. when you understand, it hits you. and it's like, well duh!. as I said creationism isn't oposed to evolution. but creationism isn't science evolution is. evolution is fact, tho it doesnt explain a lot. i'm inclined to also believe in that theroy where animals change by will. |
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i already have. i already understand how scientists can figure out information about extinct things from bone and fossil records. i'm not the one who is challenging it. |
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i think at this rate, we're going to make it to a hundred soon!! |
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42nd post!!! |
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"The hypothesis you refer to as God, though not disprovable by logic alone, is unnecessary for the following reason. If you assume that the universe can be 'explained' as the creation of an entity known as God, he must obviously be of a higher degree of organisation than his product. Thus you have more than doubled the size of the original problem, and have taken the first step on a diverging infinite regress. William of Ockham pointed out as recently as your fourteenth century that entities should not be multiplied unnecessarily. I cannot therefore understand why this debate continues." |
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I think I have a solution. Maybe some people are descendants of monkeys, and other people are descendants of.. something else (?). I dunno.. cyngus what do you think you evolved from if not from apes? It's an intriguing theory. |
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A slug. |
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and not a quiet, studious slug at that. 8 ) |
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monkeys and people have a common ancestor. people are not "descended from monkeys." for god's sake, get a scientist in here! |
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oh dear -- do people ever think things through or do they swallow it without tasting because it's "science?" I find tendencies to do shit like that more dangerous than creationist theories (I'm taking this to an extreme now to avoid further bullshitting so forgive me if I'm interpreting shit wrong; it's at least partially intentional. I'm going to latch on to OKs post as it is in view while I have the instant reply box in view, but it could just as well be any of cygnus' (or anyone elses) posts. silly statements like " evolution is right. it's completly logic." and "evolution is fact" shows such tendencies. same goes for the other side, mind you. I won't bother going into defending creationism against scientism to make people think again, but think shit through, people, and fucking remember that, as creationism, current science isn't a fucking 100% pure well of objective knowledge; they interpret the data within their paradigm as all previous scientists (both those proven to have been wrong, and those whose wrongness is yet unproved) and creationists and ecologists and freudians and economists and fucking average joe down at the bar. OH LOOK! A SCIENTIST SAID IT: IT MUST BE CORRECT! people forget the middle link. data input - interpretation as per paradigm - data output. if you have no paradigm, you'd just have the data; bones, fossils and some other shit, and a paradigm is a bias though not in the full negative sense of the word unless you senselessly eat all the cum the scientists within the paradigm spray on your face. |
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..I'm going to regret pressing reply, aren't I? |
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All a nut-case scientist will be able to do is glue some bones together and try to convince us the thing hibernated in summer. |
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