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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-03-29 12:46 [#01869143]
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...well, the wikipedia entry at least. It seems as soon as you satisfy one power crazed lunatic that, no it's not a joke and shouldn't be deleted, another one appears and you have to defend it all over again.
It seems that a combination of: Them having not heard of it, It having a funny/rude title, and Retards who don't even read the whole article and just suggest it should be deleted on the grounds that "The band BIYC are not notable" after skim reading it.
Justify it being deleted. We don't think so. If Merck and Mego are allowed pages there after they've folded, why can't BIYC? I mean, even WATMM has an entry...
So, we're asking that if you have enjoyed the releases of BIYC and want to see the project continue and hopefully reach a wider audience, please could you exercise your right to edit wikipedia entries and add some information the BIYC wikipedia page and/or justification as to why it should stay, in the discussion RE: deleting the wikipedia BIYC entry.
Please, please, please bear the following in mind; * Only add accurate, grammatically correct information to the site; a load of poorly written sentence fragments of nonsense will only add to the case for deletion.
* Don't make your arguments in the case for deletion thread personal. Keep them factual and ideally quote wiki's own policy at them.
* If you're one of the artists on the label, a brief bio, with a link or two to your site would be great. If you're involved with another project that already has a wikipedia page, an internal link to that would be excellent.
* If you could put links to BIYC in pertinent places on wikipedia (IE electronic music, IDM, netlabels, etc) to get the number of internal referals up, that'd be superb. Again, only where it's relevant and not crude.
Many thanks in advance.
Remember, we're
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obara
from Utrecht on 2006-03-29 12:54 [#01869147]
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i will do anything soonish, But Not Tonight. peace and fingers crossed. and good luck, Chris.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2006-03-29 13:00 [#01869156]
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i was gonna try to defend the article but who ever BIYC is did a ridiculously good job of it
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-03-29 13:00 [#01869157]
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I would remove this 'point of interest':
"One of the early releases, on pioneering purple 7" mp3, was limited to 100 copies and has since sold out. Original copies have been seen on Ebay for large amounts of money. Bootlegs can be found floating around on Soulseek too."
that alone gives the Meanies enough ammo to take it down.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-03-29 13:05 [#01869167]
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where in the world am I supposed to write? I've never used the discussions on wikipedia before...
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-03-29 13:07 [#01869172]
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I mean, do I write in "discussion," or do I click edit on that page you linked?
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-03-29 13:14 [#01869179]
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qrter: Good point. If we save it then we can put it back later :D
roygbivcore: That would be Ceri.
drunken mastah: fuck knows. I don't really understand it. I just like the idea of a Wikipedia Entry :D
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-03-29 13:16 [#01869180]
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I'll just click edit and add my thing somewhere.
(no, not that thing you naughty little monkey you!)
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-03-29 13:26 [#01869184]
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I hope I didn't write that in the wrong place...
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2006-03-29 13:27 [#01869185]
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i dont quite get whats going on
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2006-03-29 13:31 [#01869187]
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ok i really might have messed that up but i tried
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-03-29 13:52 [#01869199]
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I can see stuff added.
I'm happy :D
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-03-29 14:21 [#01869211]
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-03-29 14:22 [#01869212]
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I think it's very good, but I can see a few things that I'd say "Hmmm, no, i can't imagine anyone at Wiki being overly thrilled about that...". I'm not saying anything but I'd keep it .. at least faux factual and maybe trim some of the more scurrilous claims.
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big
from lsg on 2006-03-29 14:24 [#01869213]
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it needs to be npov, just summing up the crazy facts would still be fun i guess
they'll keep watching
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2006-03-29 14:33 [#01869216]
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The Knight Foundation is on our side
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2006-03-29 15:15 [#01869237]
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Ceri is trained for this type of thing! After the dust settles all the interesting stuff can be added, I think it's Pietrobot to be honest, I wouldn't trust him as far as I could jizz.
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2006-03-29 15:16 [#01869238]
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It is written in a pretty daft way
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2006-03-29 15:38 [#01869248]
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fuck that's an amazing gif
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-03-29 15:59 [#01869259]
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shit I could watch that for hours..
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-03-29 16:00 [#01869260]
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just over the knuckles..
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-03-29 16:02 [#01869261]
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well, exactly - keep it quite factual for now, then introduce the fun stuff/bullshit later on.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-03-30 00:31 [#01869387]
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dog_belch: Good point. I'll remove the points of interest or reword it for now.
big: Also true
vlari: Not quite yet but he's coming ;)
JivverDicker: I've heard you shoot like Peter North.
Dannn_: That's the general idea behind BIYC!
qrter: On the case!
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Matvey
from Kiev (Ukraine) on 2006-03-30 00:32 [#01869389]
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i'll think of smth clever to write there
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2006-03-30 01:08 [#01869394]
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suggestion: change to "bam in your kunt" or "bam in your c*nt"
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-03-30 01:38 [#01869398]
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Agreed, I think a stripping back to irrefutable fact and bios, perhaps a release catalogue, for now, whilst it's up for debate whether to keep it or not, would be a good idea. Once the heat has died down, people have accepted that the wiki entry is here to stay and the size of the entry and factual information has grown, we can put a few of the more entertaining "facts" back in.
Phobs: I originally had it as "Bam in your C**t", but someone has changed it.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-03-30 05:32 [#01869468]
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some wanker just added a speedy delete request.
also for an encyclopedia to actually censor naughty words has to be the silliest thing I ever heard of! Cunt has its own entry in wikipedia, so I don't see why they should consider deleting it because of naughty language, and if it is the name of what is being referred to, censoring it could lead to confusion, and then people would start to think it was really called "BAM in your C*nt" or something, which would be incorrect information, and thus more eligible for deletion.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-03-30 06:11 [#01869479]
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I like this "battle" :D It's fun.
Phobs: I can't change the name. It's part of the stupidity. Are you miffed that WATMM has an entry whereas xltronic doesn't? Not that I want to mention the fact that xltronic has had many people DJ for it who're notable...
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2006-03-30 06:21 [#01869482]
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+ it would be like the cheapest sell-out ever. change the name to get on wiki, no way man
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2006-03-30 06:25 [#01869484]
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Garth Knight agrees
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2006-03-30 06:35 [#01869491]
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and rolf
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-03-30 07:37 [#01869521]
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wikipedia contradicts itself if this is deleted
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-03-30 08:03 [#01869533]
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Everyone applaud Ceri for his awesome argument skills.
Check out the page to see what I mean.
Link!
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-03-30 08:04 [#01869535]
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Look at the latest debating smackdown I served up in that discussion on deletion...
Have a look at the profile of the most recent detractor AmiDaniel (WTF sort of name is that?). Someone else has noticed that the user is "self contradicting".
Drunken Mastah: I completely agree. Looking at it completely dispassionately, the only possible reason for it being deleted that I have seen (and it has only been mentioned once rather than half a dozen like most of the completely irrelevant ones) that I have seen is that it is "not a notable record-label". Even if it's not notable (which is itself open for debate), wikipedias guidelines state that that alone is not grounds for deletion; more merely something that would lend extra weight to an existing, legitimate argument for deletion (which of course, does not exist, or if it does has not been posted).
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-03-30 08:11 [#01869538]
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yes.. also, my deviously constructed logical argument (I didn't bother checking the logical structure of it, but maybe I should?) also proves that not only deletion of this article is against what an encyclopedia is all about, but that wikipedia, if the article is deleted, is no more an encyclopedia, or full of misinformation about what an encyclopedia is.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-03-30 08:17 [#01869540]
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I kind of wish people who wanted things deleted would actually give reasons and arguments...
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-03-30 08:19 [#01869542]
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That's part of why it's fun.
They've clearly taken offense at the name and want to delete it.
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2006-03-30 08:21 [#01869544]
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why is anyone bothered if you're on their or not?
its like saying join my gang.
if they want to be a bunch of snobby pricks, let them
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2006-03-30 08:37 [#01869548]
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they edited it to BIYF it appears?
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-03-30 08:52 [#01869551]
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hahah, who the fuck added the tridenti things?
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2006-03-30 08:55 [#01869553]
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haha wtf
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-03-30 09:04 [#01869558]
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It's probably a desperate attempt to make it appear that all the arguments for keeping it originate from "unsigned accounts". The inherent failing in it is that regardless of who made those arguments, they are irrefutable. PWNED!
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-03-30 10:39 [#01869594]
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hahaha, this is as much fun as doing the "label"
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-03-30 11:17 [#01869616]
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I think that was because WATMM has brought out a record and Zilty hasn't, something silly like that.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-03-30 15:01 [#01869720]
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What if we say Zilty is a record label and the slipmats are the first release, or "XLT001" as some might have it?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-03-30 16:24 [#01869734]
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if you really really really really really really really really REALLY want to be on wikipedia, you could try it.
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ecnadniarb
on 2006-03-30 19:07 [#01869765]
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Wikipedia is just a playground fo cock gobblers.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-03-30 19:24 [#01869775]
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the word "cunt" has been substituted with "fanny"
why?
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ecnadniarb
on 2006-03-30 19:26 [#01869779]
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fanny means pussy or cunt in england but in the states it means arse and as most yank males are shirt lifting shit stabbers they would rather be bammed there. it's also more politically correct.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-03-30 19:54 [#01869781]
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but still
the debate is over whether or not cunt is offensive and not important to the factual nature of the article, and since the label is called bam in your cunt and not bam in your fanny, I'd say cunt is as important as anything else whilefanny is misleading information
i'm drunk, though
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