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illfates
from space (United States) on 2002-03-04 03:06 [#00110396]
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Icodonism
Pig and Moose
more at here
I've been making music for some 5 years with mac software and miscellaneous hardware, and haven't done anything with it. I'm now going to start pushing it out to the world, if anyone is interested. Most influences come from warp records and ninjatune, among others
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blue_clax
from Edmonton (Canada) on 2002-03-04 04:56 [#00110444]
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Interested... are they on mp3.com??? or do you have a webpage? Gimmi a url man!
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illfates
from space (United States) on 2002-03-04 05:00 [#00110449]
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hehe, those are links on that first post, try clicking em
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blue_clax
from Edmonton (Canada) on 2002-03-04 05:01 [#00110450]
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lol... missed that... thanx!
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blue_clax
from Edmonton (Canada) on 2002-03-04 05:03 [#00110451]
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Great stuff!!! Some of the best I have heard from the members of the board!
What hardware/software do you use?
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dave
from saskatoon (Canada) on 2002-03-04 05:05 [#00110453]
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man that would be cool if you got on eather
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illfates
from space (United States) on 2002-03-04 05:06 [#00110454]
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cubase, playerpro, metasynth, lots of dabblign in weird stuff that makes noises.... also do a little recording with mixer/mic/drums/guitar/keyboards etc.
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illfates
from space (United States) on 2002-03-04 05:07 [#00110456]
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what do you mean, dave? eather?
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aron
from saskatoon (Canada) on 2002-03-04 05:11 [#00110459]
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just ignore dave, he couldn't spell or use proper grammar if his life depended on it!
;)
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illfates
from space (United States) on 2002-03-04 05:16 [#00110462]
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oh- i getcha now dave.. I think warp and ninjatune would be a little ambitious for me at this point. I dunno, I'd like to put my music anywhere, i just need to find a label, any label, who wants to support me. I don't know much at all about how all of that works, and the internet isn't nearly as good as it should be for finding out.
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blue_clax
from Edmonton (Canada) on 2002-03-04 05:19 [#00110463]
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I figure warp is worth a shot.
XD
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illfates
from space (United States) on 2002-03-04 05:29 [#00110467]
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spelt.mp3
There's another one I made fairly recently that you'd probably enjoy.
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wayout
from the street of crocodiles on 2002-03-04 07:31 [#00110507]
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wow...nice stuff youve got some real talent.. good luck with the label search..after hearing most of your stuff..id say you've got a pretty good chance
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illfates
from space (United States) on 2002-03-04 09:03 [#00110575]
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i appreciate the support- the question remains, how do you convince a label this? I've sent out three or four demos to a variety of places, and never gotten any responses. Would you actually pay for this in a record store?
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-04 09:08 [#00110578]
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I'm downloading one now so I couldn't answer that yet. But I've heard that you should expect 20 or more rejections when you try to get a book you write published. I like your worm head cartoon doood.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-04 09:13 [#00110581]
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I don't know how label stuff works really either. If your goal is exposure, you could just share your creations on soulseek... if it's to get money, you could just burn your own cd's and sell them, especially if you have a small audience wanting them. THis way there's no label to take like half or more of the money. Actually I think chulk sells his own cd's... lousy service though heh heh.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-04 09:15 [#00110585]
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have you ever looked at your drawings in the mirror? I sometimes do this to get a "fresh" perspective, like seeing it with new eyes, and it sometimes looks totally stupid in the mirror.
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illfates
from space (United States) on 2002-03-04 09:17 [#00110589]
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I think it's kind of a combination of both- After making music for as long as I've had, I've seen the patterns in the way it evolves. Since I bought this titanium powerbook I made all of the tracks you've heard. The four most recent, I feel are some of my very best, and they are due to playing with new VSTis that I'd never used before. I feel like if I could make enough money from it to live at least as well as I do now (not very much), and maybe buy some more toys that make noise, I'd be in heaven. At the same time, I'd love it if people were just listening to it and enjoying it.
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Resident Evil
from heat some coffee, mmm, mmm (Australia) on 2002-03-04 09:18 [#00110591]
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Hey illfates, Icodonism is a great track. I'd pay money for it if it was in a record store.
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illfates
from space (United States) on 2002-03-04 09:20 [#00110592]
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Looked at my drawings in a mirror? if you're talking metaphorically, I take breaks and pursue different styles often in an attempt to broaden my creative horizons. If you're talking more literally, if there is anything I think I can try to do with sound, I usually try it.. Instead of just flipping it horizontally, you can flip it upside down, and use smaller version of the same image at different intensities to paint the same picture, and then if you write something like "This is not a pipe" as a caption, you've bent it all out of shape into a completely new dynamic of art.
If that makes any sense.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-04 09:22 [#00110594]
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listening to icodonism... it's not my thing really. I wouldn't buy it myself... just goes to show how you have to find the right person to hear it and put it on their label.
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illfates
from space (United States) on 2002-03-04 09:25 [#00110595]
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listen to a random other one or two, w M w- you might find something that appeals to you more. These tracks tend to vary a lot and maintain a more subtle consistency. And by subtle I think I'm dressing up the word 'less'.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-04 09:27 [#00110596]
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I meant literally... just because the mirror inverts it and arranges the data into an inverted copy your eyes aren't used to and so you can see what you drew ...as if some one else saw it for the first time sorta. I also tried to play doom 2 while looking in the mirror at the screen, all the levels are inverted... it's like a new game because you're not used to the layout.
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raimons
from Stockholm (Sweden) on 2002-03-04 09:28 [#00110598]
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that was some great stuff man!
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raimons
from Stockholm (Sweden) on 2002-03-04 09:29 [#00110599]
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thanx for sharing man! try mine too! ive got a new dark piece called "throne" on www.mp3.com/raimotica
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illfates
from space (United States) on 2002-03-04 09:29 [#00110601]
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jesus flapjack christ on a pogo stick, your avatar is extremely unnerving. that's really scary and neat. Did you make that?
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-04 09:31 [#00110603]
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that.. is ... a cool animation.... . . .... that would be even cooler, if it constantly looped, like the screen constantly zoomed in and the inside mouth became the outside mouth, repeat repeat.
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raimons
from Stockholm (Sweden) on 2002-03-04 09:31 [#00110604]
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i did some sounds on that one with a keyboard. the rest of it are samples in difrent filters.
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raimons
from Stockholm (Sweden) on 2002-03-04 09:32 [#00110606]
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did you mean the pic? yes i did that too
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illfates
from space (United States) on 2002-03-04 09:35 [#00110609]
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this is cool ambient stuff, very sound sculpture- I went to festival a few weeks ago where there was a trio from norway making sounds very much like this with midi instruments they'd built themselves. one of them had a pair of gloves with some sort of magnets on them that sensed how far apart they were, and four keys on each hand that controlled white blue or pink noise on one hand, and x/y axis filtering based on the distance and relation of the two gloves. It sounded like a nuclear vacuum cleaner in space.
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raimons
from Stockholm (Sweden) on 2002-03-04 09:38 [#00110613]
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im putting out an album on mp3.com in a few weeks so if you like the scary shit...
be prepared
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2002-03-04 12:10 [#00110726]
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illfates:: your music is superior to the other stuff ive heard here.
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illfates
from space (United States) on 2002-03-04 18:58 [#00111236]
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figured I'd give this a daytime bump for both me and Raimons, and post another track.
Kuffck.mp3
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2002-03-04 19:03 [#00111242]
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Nice!!!
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wayout
from the street of crocodiles on 2002-03-04 21:59 [#00111587]
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i really liked icodonism, actually...have you heard isan? their music has a similar melancholic feel.
i would probably buy your stuff..it reminds me of a mix of stuff from ninja tune and people like µ-ziq and isan...but different enough to be original
as for getting signed..i cant really help you there...ive only been making music for a little less than a year..and am just now starting to get good at it...im still pretty far from looking for a record label...
i guess my only advice would be to be persistant...send the record lables you like a few songs every week...
or do something odd that will make them notice you...bogdan sent rephlex tons of demos..each under a different name..from a different country, ovuca sent them a bunch of tapes of weird sounds..like tape hiss and surface noise..
and aphex apparently sent the demo for digeridoo wrapped in a drain pipe
check out the sites of the labels youre interested in if you havent already...most of them have a little section on their stance on demos..
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illfates
from space (United States) on 2002-03-04 22:31 [#00111635]
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those are some cool ideas- I never thought of sending something other than my actual finished tracks. I have a shitload of really crazy noises that I've made as side projects... I did a color themed set (Red, blue, yellow, infrared) that attempted to play image sequences resembling morse code (if you analyze it with metasynth you get bars of color based on stereo channel placement/intensity).. Its short, but bizarre and interesting.
I have to thank all of you for the feedback, it's really helpful and supportive for me.
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wayout
from the street of crocodiles on 2002-03-04 22:36 [#00111644]
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oh and i listened to kuffck too...very nice stuff..
and another thing to remember..the fact that youve been working on your stuff for 5 years should give you a bit of an advantage...considering a lot of your competition consists of kids who havent been making music for very long...and started sending out demos before they've even completely figured out how to use their software...
your experience shows
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-05 06:21 [#00112078]
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.bogdan sent rephlex tons of demos..each under a different name..from a different country, ovuca sent them a bunch of tapes of weird sounds..like tape hiss and surface noise.. and aphex apparently sent the demo for digeridoo wrapped in
a drain pipe
heh heh, that was hilarious... where'd you read this stuff? In bogdan etc. interviews? Silly aphex twin *shakes head and laughs*
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wayout
from the street of crocodiles on 2002-03-05 06:40 [#00112084]
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the stuff about bogdan and ovuca was in an interview rich and grant did in urb about rephlex
the drain pipe thing i've seen in a bunch of places
that urb interview is pretty neat if you can track it down..
they talk about the first time they met bogdan...he came to london and was nearly deported before he even left the airport...
they also talk about the first time they spoke to ovuca on the phone...he was in lapland...completely drunk and standing outside his cabin naked watching the northern lights..while listening to analogue bubblebath
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-05 06:54 [#00112095]
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You're right illfates, pig and moose definately does it for me. Excellent. It's silly and reminds me a little of come to daddy album, because the drums and stuff are playful, it's really copy pasty. This song is REALLY good.
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illfates
from space (United States) on 2002-03-05 10:05 [#00112294]
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well, there ya go, w M w --
You'd probably dig some of my older stuff. I'll do some sort of megapost here on the forum in a few days, let anyone who wants it suck down as much music as they want.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-06 10:02 [#00113745]
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I put that pig and moose song on cd, and for more feedback: I think some of the sounds are weak in volume, like some of the drums (on the cd I made your song plays right after flea and korben's song... and that song's sounds are loud) I love the whole organization and the ludicrous lyrics... "the pig the moose and the wwwwdt" he he he. But I think you should amplify some of the sound's volumes. It's like drawing a picture with a pencil, but making it darker, more obviously seen.
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kalaim badkaama
from Apt 512 in Gilmour Orbiter (Re on 2002-03-06 10:06 [#00113749]
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hey illfates, the links work no more... ahhrfghh!!! do something!!! arrhhggtthh!!!!
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illfates
from space (United States) on 2002-03-07 05:38 [#00115175]
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sorry about that- my webspace went down for billing reasons, but it should be up very soon.
I just finished what has to be one of the coolest tracks I've ever made.. very fast, very grindy. hot and sexy.
I'll link it when everything comes back up.
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kalaim badkaama
from Apt 512 in Gilmour Orbiter (Re on 2002-03-07 05:39 [#00115177]
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allright
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kalaim badkaama
from Apt 512 in Gilmour Orbiter (Re on 2002-03-07 05:41 [#00115178]
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If yer ears need sound. www.mp3.com/kalaim_bk While i'll wait for yer trakz...
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Canerfold
from Minneappleseed (United States) on 2002-03-07 05:45 [#00115182]
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yeah, let us know. i haven't had a chance to hear any of it yet.
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illfates
from space (United States) on 2002-03-07 08:29 [#00115297]
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everything is back up:
Link: Sounds My Cellphone Makes
-- that has to be one of the best tracks I've ever made.. i spent so much time sequencing those drums, and when I finished, I realized it didn't need a melody / harmony
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wayout
from the street of crocodiles on 2002-03-07 08:37 [#00115305]
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very cool stuff...youre right..it does seem to work fine without melodies
i really like the stereo-ness ..especially in the beginning where the sounds bounce back and forth
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-07 08:44 [#00115307]
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:))) I love it!
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