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offline illfates from space (United States) on 2002-03-04 03:06 [#00110396]
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Icodonism

Pig and Moose



more at here



I've been making music for some 5 years with mac
software and miscellaneous hardware, and haven't done
anything with it. I'm now going to start pushing it out to
the world, if anyone is interested. Most influences come
from warp records and ninjatune, among others



 

offline blue_clax from Edmonton (Canada) on 2002-03-04 04:56 [#00110444]
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Interested... are they on mp3.com??? or do you have a
webpage? Gimmi a url man!


 

offline illfates from space (United States) on 2002-03-04 05:00 [#00110449]
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hehe, those are links on that first post, try clicking em


 

offline blue_clax from Edmonton (Canada) on 2002-03-04 05:01 [#00110450]
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lol... missed that... thanx!


 

offline blue_clax from Edmonton (Canada) on 2002-03-04 05:03 [#00110451]
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Great stuff!!! Some of the best I have heard from the
members of the board!

What hardware/software do you use?


 

offline dave from saskatoon (Canada) on 2002-03-04 05:05 [#00110453]
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man that would be cool if you got on eather


 

offline illfates from space (United States) on 2002-03-04 05:06 [#00110454]
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cubase, playerpro, metasynth, lots of dabblign in weird
stuff that makes noises.... also do a little recording with
mixer/mic/drums/guitar/keyboards etc.


 

offline illfates from space (United States) on 2002-03-04 05:07 [#00110456]
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what do you mean, dave? eather?


 

offline aron from saskatoon (Canada) on 2002-03-04 05:11 [#00110459]
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just ignore dave, he couldn't spell or use proper grammar if
his life depended on it!
;)


 

offline illfates from space (United States) on 2002-03-04 05:16 [#00110462]
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oh- i getcha now dave.. I think warp and ninjatune would be
a little ambitious for me at this point. I dunno, I'd like
to put my music anywhere, i just need to find a label, any
label, who wants to support me. I don't know much at all
about how all of that works, and the internet isn't nearly
as good as it should be for finding out.


 

offline blue_clax from Edmonton (Canada) on 2002-03-04 05:19 [#00110463]
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I figure warp is worth a shot.

XD


 

offline illfates from space (United States) on 2002-03-04 05:29 [#00110467]
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spelt.mp3

There's another one I made fairly recently that you'd
probably enjoy.


 

offline wayout from the street of crocodiles on 2002-03-04 07:31 [#00110507]
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wow...nice stuff
youve got some real talent..
good luck with the label search..after hearing most of your
stuff..id say you've got a pretty good chance


 

offline illfates from space (United States) on 2002-03-04 09:03 [#00110575]
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i appreciate the support- the question remains, how do you
convince a label this? I've sent out three or four demos to
a variety of places, and never gotten any responses. Would
you actually pay for this in a record store?


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-04 09:08 [#00110578]
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I'm downloading one now so I couldn't answer that yet. But
I've heard that you should expect 20 or more rejections when
you try to get a book you write published. I like your worm
head cartoon doood.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-04 09:13 [#00110581]
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I don't know how label stuff works really either. If your
goal is exposure, you could just share your creations on
soulseek... if it's to get money, you could just burn your
own cd's and sell them, especially if you have a small
audience wanting them. THis way there's no label to take
like half or more of the money. Actually I think chulk sells
his own cd's... lousy service though heh heh.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-04 09:15 [#00110585]
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have you ever looked at your drawings in the mirror? I
sometimes do this to get a "fresh" perspective, like seeing
it with new eyes, and it sometimes looks totally stupid in
the mirror.


 

offline illfates from space (United States) on 2002-03-04 09:17 [#00110589]
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I think it's kind of a combination of both- After making
music for as long as I've had, I've seen the patterns in the
way it evolves. Since I bought this titanium powerbook I
made all of the tracks you've heard. The four most recent,
I feel are some of my very best, and they are due to playing
with new VSTis that I'd never used before. I feel like if I
could make enough money from it to live at least as well as
I do now (not very much), and maybe buy some more toys that
make noise, I'd be in heaven. At the same time, I'd love it
if people were just listening to it and enjoying it.


 

offline Resident Evil from heat some coffee, mmm, mmm (Australia) on 2002-03-04 09:18 [#00110591]
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Hey illfates, Icodonism is a great track. I'd pay money for
it if it was in a record store.


 

offline illfates from space (United States) on 2002-03-04 09:20 [#00110592]
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Looked at my drawings in a mirror? if you're talking
metaphorically, I take breaks and pursue different styles
often in an attempt to broaden my creative horizons. If
you're talking more literally, if there is anything I think
I can try to do with sound, I usually try it.. Instead of
just flipping it horizontally, you can flip it upside down,
and use smaller version of the same image at different
intensities to paint the same picture, and then if you write
something like "This is not a pipe" as a caption, you've
bent it all out of shape into a completely new dynamic of
art.

If that makes any sense.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-04 09:22 [#00110594]
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listening to icodonism... it's not my thing really. I
wouldn't buy it myself... just goes to show how you have to
find the right person to hear it and put it on their label.


 

offline illfates from space (United States) on 2002-03-04 09:25 [#00110595]
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listen to a random other one or two, w M w- you might find
something that appeals to you more. These tracks tend to
vary a lot and maintain a more subtle consistency. And by
subtle I think I'm dressing up the word 'less'.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-04 09:27 [#00110596]
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I meant literally... just because the mirror inverts it and
arranges the data into an inverted copy your eyes aren't
used to and so you can see what you drew ...as if some one
else saw it for the first time sorta. I also tried to play
doom 2 while looking in the mirror at the screen, all the
levels are inverted... it's like a new game because you're
not used to the layout.


 

offline raimons from Stockholm (Sweden) on 2002-03-04 09:28 [#00110598]
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that was some great stuff man!



 

offline raimons from Stockholm (Sweden) on 2002-03-04 09:29 [#00110599]
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thanx for sharing man!
try mine too!
ive got a new dark piece called "throne"
on www.mp3.com/raimotica


 

offline illfates from space (United States) on 2002-03-04 09:29 [#00110601]
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jesus flapjack christ on a pogo stick,
your avatar is extremely unnerving. that's really scary and
neat. Did you make that?


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-04 09:31 [#00110603]
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that.. is ... a cool animation.... . . .... that would
be even cooler, if it constantly looped, like the screen
constantly zoomed in and the inside mouth became the outside
mouth, repeat repeat.


 

offline raimons from Stockholm (Sweden) on 2002-03-04 09:31 [#00110604]
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i did some sounds on that one with a keyboard. the rest of
it are samples in difrent filters.


 

offline raimons from Stockholm (Sweden) on 2002-03-04 09:32 [#00110606]
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did you mean the pic?
yes i did that too


 

offline illfates from space (United States) on 2002-03-04 09:35 [#00110609]
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this is cool ambient stuff, very sound sculpture- I went to
festival a few weeks ago where there was a trio from norway
making sounds very much like this with midi instruments
they'd built themselves. one of them had a pair of gloves
with some sort of magnets on them that sensed how far apart
they were, and four keys on each hand that controlled white
blue or pink noise on one hand, and x/y axis filtering based
on the distance and relation of the two gloves. It sounded
like a nuclear vacuum cleaner in space.


 

offline raimons from Stockholm (Sweden) on 2002-03-04 09:38 [#00110613]
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im putting out an album on mp3.com in a few weeks so if you
like the scary shit...
be prepared


 

offline Sido Dyas from a computer on 2002-03-04 12:10 [#00110726]
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illfates:: your music is superior to the other stuff ive
heard here.


 

offline illfates from space (United States) on 2002-03-04 18:58 [#00111236]
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figured I'd give this a daytime bump for both me and
Raimons, and post another track.

Kuffck.mp3


 

offline Sido Dyas from a computer on 2002-03-04 19:03 [#00111242]
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Nice!!!


 

offline wayout from the street of crocodiles on 2002-03-04 21:59 [#00111587]
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i really liked icodonism, actually...have you heard isan?
their music has a similar melancholic feel.
i would probably buy your stuff..it reminds me of a mix of
stuff from ninja tune and people like µ-ziq and isan...but
different enough to be original

as for getting signed..i cant really help you there...ive
only been making music for a little less than a year..and am
just now starting to get good at it...im still pretty far
from looking for a record label...
i guess my only advice would be to be persistant...send the
record lables you like a few songs every week...
or do something odd that will make them notice you...bogdan
sent rephlex tons of demos..each under a different
name..from a different country, ovuca sent them a bunch of
tapes of weird sounds..like tape hiss and surface noise..
and aphex apparently sent the demo for digeridoo wrapped in
a drain pipe

check out the sites of the labels youre interested in if you
havent already...most of them have a little section on their
stance on demos..


 

offline illfates from space (United States) on 2002-03-04 22:31 [#00111635]
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those are some cool ideas- I never thought of sending
something other than my actual finished tracks. I have a
shitload of really crazy noises that I've made as side
projects... I did a color themed set (Red, blue, yellow,
infrared) that attempted to play image sequences resembling
morse code (if you analyze it with metasynth you get bars of
color based on stereo channel placement/intensity).. Its
short, but bizarre and interesting.

I have to thank all of you for the feedback, it's really
helpful and supportive for me.


 

offline wayout from the street of crocodiles on 2002-03-04 22:36 [#00111644]
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oh and i listened to kuffck too...very nice stuff..

and another thing to remember..the fact that youve been
working on your stuff for 5 years should give you a bit of
an advantage...considering a lot of your competition
consists of kids who havent been making music for very
long...and started sending out demos before they've even
completely figured out how to use their software...
your experience shows


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-05 06:21 [#00112078]
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.bogdan
sent rephlex tons of demos..each under a different
name..from a different country, ovuca sent them a bunch of
tapes of weird sounds..like tape hiss and surface noise..
and aphex apparently sent the demo for digeridoo wrapped in

a drain pipe

heh heh, that was hilarious... where'd you read this stuff?
In bogdan etc. interviews? Silly aphex twin *shakes head and
laughs*


 

offline wayout from the street of crocodiles on 2002-03-05 06:40 [#00112084]
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the stuff about bogdan and ovuca was in an interview rich
and grant did in urb about rephlex
the drain pipe thing i've seen in a bunch of places

that urb interview is pretty neat if you can track it
down..
they talk about the first time they met bogdan...he came to
london and was nearly deported before he even left the
airport...
they also talk about the first time they spoke to ovuca on
the phone...he was in lapland...completely drunk and
standing outside his cabin naked watching the northern
lights..while listening to analogue bubblebath



 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-05 06:54 [#00112095]
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You're right illfates, pig and moose definately does it for
me. Excellent. It's silly and reminds me a little of come to
daddy album, because the drums and stuff are playful, it's
really copy pasty. This song is REALLY good.


 

offline illfates from space (United States) on 2002-03-05 10:05 [#00112294]
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well, there ya go, w M w --

You'd probably dig some of my older stuff. I'll do some
sort of megapost here on the forum in a few days, let anyone
who wants it suck down as much music as they want.



 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-06 10:02 [#00113745]
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I put that pig and moose song on cd, and for more feedback:
I think some of the sounds are weak in volume, like some of
the drums (on the cd I made your song plays right after flea
and korben's song... and that song's sounds are loud) I love
the whole organization and the ludicrous lyrics... "the pig
the moose and the wwwwdt" he he he. But I think you should
amplify some of the sound's volumes. It's like drawing a
picture with a pencil, but making it darker, more obviously
seen.


 

offline kalaim badkaama from Apt 512 in Gilmour Orbiter (Re on 2002-03-06 10:06 [#00113749]
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hey illfates, the links work no more...
ahhrfghh!!! do something!!! arrhhggtthh!!!!


 

offline illfates from space (United States) on 2002-03-07 05:38 [#00115175]
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sorry about that- my webspace went down for billing reasons,
but it should be up very soon.

I just finished what has to be one of the coolest tracks
I've ever made.. very fast, very grindy. hot and sexy.

I'll link it when everything comes back up.


 

offline kalaim badkaama from Apt 512 in Gilmour Orbiter (Re on 2002-03-07 05:39 [#00115177]
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allright



 

offline kalaim badkaama from Apt 512 in Gilmour Orbiter (Re on 2002-03-07 05:41 [#00115178]
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If yer ears need sound.
www.mp3.com/kalaim_bk
While i'll wait for yer trakz...


 

offline Canerfold from Minneappleseed (United States) on 2002-03-07 05:45 [#00115182]
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yeah, let us know. i haven't had a chance to hear any of it
yet.


 

offline illfates from space (United States) on 2002-03-07 08:29 [#00115297]
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everything is back up:

Link: Sounds My Cellphone Makes

-- that has to be one of the best tracks I've ever made.. i
spent so much time sequencing those drums, and when I
finished, I realized it didn't need a melody / harmony


 

offline wayout from the street of crocodiles on 2002-03-07 08:37 [#00115305]
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very cool stuff...youre right..it does seem to work fine
without melodies
i really like the stereo-ness ..especially in the beginning
where the sounds bounce back and forth


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-07 08:44 [#00115307]
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:))) I love it!


 


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