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victorash
from Bucharest (Romania) on 2006-03-02 07:45 [#01851285]
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Sonoric Instruments
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2006-03-02 10:26 [#01851404]
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Yeah, I read about it some days ago on matrixsynth. Looks pretty cool, but I don't really know much about it yet.
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2006-03-02 11:23 [#01851433]
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Wants more info. Very interested.
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victorash
from Bucharest (Romania) on 2006-03-02 11:40 [#01851443]
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:) on matrixsynth they took my words from sonicstate forum. here you'll find additional info
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-03-02 13:26 [#01851504]
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Looks neat. Any info on prices?
I am liking the look of this as well. Semi modular, all analogue. MSRP of $700us? How could you not?
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acid_polic3
from london (United Kingdom) on 2006-03-02 14:11 [#01851553]
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im more excited about that ms20 clone ... shit ill deffo pick one up if its 400 quid
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victorash
from Bucharest (Romania) on 2006-03-02 14:19 [#01851559]
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Looks nice, I know this one. It is actually an extension to other Future Retro synths, or even other modular or semimodular analogue synths. There are plenty of synths like that.
No price yet for this one, it depends on the final production cost.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2006-03-02 17:08 [#01851677]
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This stupid anal log fad has got to stop.
So what if digital synthesis doesn't sound like analog synthesis? Maybe it sounds better. You can do lots more with it. You can have literally unlimited oscilators, routing and sampling in Max and Reaktor. Try doing that in anal log synthesis and you can't even pay for the electricity to run it all.
I mean does this hardware emit stupidity rays? Once you buy one anal log it makes you want to buy more. People will spend tens of thousands of dollars to do things that freeware VSTis can do better.
I guess cavemen complained bitterly when someone invented flutes and stringed instruments, saying that they just didn't sound like good old fashioned hitting rocks together.
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acid_polic3
from london (United Kingdom) on 2006-03-02 17:53 [#01851711]
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well they are both good for different things , to suggest a freeware synth is better than a vintage moog or ARP or whatever is pretty daft i reckon. the two are not mutually exclusive anyway
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2006-03-02 19:54 [#01851774]
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Humph. I was trying to make taxidermist come burn a giant cross made of vacuum tubes and discrete transistors on my lawn.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-03-03 00:45 [#01851783]
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Maybe you should check outside right now (and step on the burning bag on your doorstep while your at it)... >:(
And hey, I have plenty of VA. Got nothing against it, its great and all. Sure its powerfull, and it can do a lot, but analogue sounds better when you want a good thick analogue sound. I don't care what the digital enthusiasts say. Different things are good for different things. Computer synthesis is good for sounding computery, VA is good for sounding pretty good, digital FM is good for sounding amazing and analogue is good for sounding full, warm, sticky and elastic.
But I agree. As soon as the analogue fad dies, then the price of analogue goes way down, and then I can get more of it.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-03-03 03:30 [#01851824]
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I don't care how much modules you can add in reaktor, or how much space it takes up. I will still put this up against any reaktor ensemble, any day.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-03-03 03:34 [#01851826]
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Or how about this beautiful piece of electronics...
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2006-03-03 10:00 [#01851975]
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My God, you even take the bait when I openly declare that I'm trolling! :D
But yeah those are beautiful pieces of equipment. You know what I like the sound of (from samples at least) is the vermona perfourmer.
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2006-03-03 10:45 [#01852011]
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hahaha
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-03-03 13:20 [#01852092]
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:)
Just having a little fun.
And I can't find enough excuses to post pictures of the modular instruments
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Quoth
from Sweden on 2006-03-03 14:02 [#01852102]
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buchla 200e :)
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-03-04 00:55 [#01852288]
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You know, as much as those make me drool, I wouldn't want one of those sitting in my studio. They look like someone made them out of smarties!
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2006-03-04 01:49 [#01852312]
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haha,true!
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2006-03-04 02:05 [#01852323]
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Im getting an sh-5 next week
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2006-03-04 02:11 [#01852324]
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Oh, and I was getting analogue synths way before ANlord ever came out. I refuse to let aphex own all analogue music now that he released another album based ona a gimmick.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2006-03-04 02:19 [#01852326]
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I like analogue synths cause I'm not a mathemtician. Actually, Im totally shit at math. I hate Reaktor and Csound and all that shit. Plus, I usually just go on message boards and check my email when I'm on my computer. I'm too stupid for computer music. I need a big red dial to turn. I;ve also been in love with synths since my teens. I like looking at them too.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-03-04 03:00 [#01852333]
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How much are you getting the sh5 for?
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2006-03-04 12:44 [#01852659]
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Yeah, same here. It's not as though we ALL think Analord was a revolution. Some of it's bloody great stuff though.
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obara
from Utrecht on 2006-03-04 13:03 [#01852670]
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i found perfect lyrics for your music :
Well, in my time of dyin’ Don’t want nobody to mourn. All I want for you to do is Take my body home, Well, well, well, So I can die easy, Well, well well, Well, well, well, So I can die easy. Jesus gonna make up, jesus gonna make up, Jesus gonna make up my dying bed.
Well, meet me, jesus, meet me, Meet me in the middle of the air. If these wings should fail me, lord, Won’t you meet me with another pair, Well, well, well, So I can die easy, Well, well well, Well, well, well, So I can die easy. Jesus gonna make up, jesus gonna make up, Jesus gonna make up my dying bed.
Lord, in my time of dying Don’t want nobody to cry, All I want you to do is Take me when I die. Well, well, well, So I can die easy, Well, well well, Well, well, well, So I can die easy. Jesus gonna make up, jesus gonna make up, Jesus gonna make up my dying bed
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victorash
from Bucharest (Romania) on 2006-03-04 14:18 [#01852712]
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I don't get it...
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2006-03-04 22:55 [#01852929]
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I haven't heard any of your music yet, but I'm willing to bet that you he didn't intend for you (or any of us) to get it. :D
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2006-03-04 22:56 [#01852930]
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so that was just you trolling? because I have to say I agree.... mostly.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-03-04 22:59 [#01852933]
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You think that freeware vsti's sound better?
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2006-03-04 23:08 [#01852936]
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no, no, sorry i should have clarified. I rarely ever use VSTi's, so I would definately not be any kind of authority to say how good VSTi's sound. I just meant that I'm getting tired of all the bands I've seen recently using a Moog simply because it's a word that's passed around from mouth to mouth in the "synth scene" like a cumswap in a porno flick. I get the general impression that many of the people who adamently support analog simply haven't bothered to give digital or computer synthesizers a proper chance.... and I don't feel that 30 minutes spent on a demo is a good way to judge any software synth (especially/mainly the good ones). Every time I use Reason 3.0 I discover a new sonic possibility. So I suppose, in reply to your question, I don't think freeware vsti's sound better. Just that I feel this whole analog(ue) craze has gone a bit out of control.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-03-04 23:10 [#01852937]
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I am going further towards analogue because I am getting tired of that standard digital sound...
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2006-03-04 23:15 [#01852938]
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I don't have much to say because I pretty much feel the same way. I own a Yamaha Ex-5 and a Roland JP-8000, both of which are VA synths. Both of these have certain aspects which never get old, especially for the money I paid for them. I'm not entirely unhappy with them, but I feel as though I'm only scraping the surface of what synthesizers can do and be. I would like a "jack of all trades" analog synth if possible, something that has plenty of knobs and sliders, a nice keyboard, and sonic oomph to spare, but isn't so expensive that I have to take out a second mortgage on the house. I'm not sure if anything like that exists currently, so I guess that's what I'm waiting for. Aside from that, I recently discovered Reason so I've actually made a shift more toward the digital even as I was hoping to go more analog.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-03-05 00:05 [#01852941]
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The evolver is like that. If you can deal with monophonic, and just the desktop module, then you get an amazing piece of hardware for around $500. Decide to lay down $1200 you can get the mono keyboard, and $2700 for the poly keyboard with something like 70 knobs.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2006-03-05 07:21 [#01853057]
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Polyiblit is free and sounds as good as any real anal log synth I've tried - moog voyager, evolver, ms20, polysix, juno 106, you name it. It has creaminess and wallop. Doesn't sound exactly like any of them which is fine - they sound different from one another too.
The presets are boring but spend some time creating a patch and it can sound like something from an add n to x album easily. It sounds fabulous dry, without any effects.
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Quoth
from Sweden on 2006-03-05 09:08 [#01853138]
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here is why i bought one of the best digital analog modeled synthesizers out there... the best of both worlds... with infinite possibilities and routing techniques... 1 of 2 picts
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Quoth
from Sweden on 2006-03-05 09:08 [#01853139]
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and the editor page... muwhahahaha
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2006-03-05 13:36 [#01853267]
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thanks for the link, sir. Like I said, I have very little experience with VSTs and its been a few years since i've even used one. Question: Can this poliblit be used with reason, and if so, do I just throw it in the reason folder with everything else or do I need to make a separate VST folder within the reason directory?
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2006-03-05 13:37 [#01853269]
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looks pretty fuggin cool... how much did that setup cost you? does the synth come with the software or does that have to be purchased separately? it runs on PC too, right?
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2006-03-05 13:38 [#01853270]
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thats one sexy piece of kit,oh yes.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-03-05 13:59 [#01853295]
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So. Is there a workaround for having to stare at a computer screen to make music with that thing?
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-03-05 14:00 [#01853297]
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I am going to be getting one of those next week!!!
600 dollar down payment, and its mine, all mine!!!
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-03-05 14:03 [#01853300]
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Poly six and juno 106 have digital oscillators.
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2006-03-05 14:09 [#01853304]
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dont you mean the poly 61?
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2006-03-05 14:12 [#01853309]
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Not exactly. They have DCOs, which are digitally controlled analog oscillators.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2006-03-05 14:15 [#01853313]
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Ah you're right, it's the 61 that has DCOs - the polysix has VCOs.
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Quoth
from Sweden on 2006-03-05 14:25 [#01853324]
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$1,700... the software editor is included with the synthesizer itself... the only thing that sucks is that YOU MUST have a computer with the editor installed in order to be able to save patches you make on the synthesizer itself... kind of weird... but it's the only way you'd be able to see what modules exist in each patch
with that exception... there are X4 1/4" inputs & outputs, so routing audio back from itself is possible... routing the audio to wherever you need it to go is no problem... there is also an XLR input for use with the vocoders & shiate... great piece of gear
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2006-03-05 14:27 [#01853326]
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I'd press charges against Korg for false advertisement if my Polysix had DCOs instead of VCOs
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Quoth
from Sweden on 2006-03-05 14:28 [#01853329]
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ah yes... cross platform editor... it works on windows as well.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-03-05 14:28 [#01853330]
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Hmm. Maybe the poly 61, I could have been mistaken.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-03-05 14:30 [#01853333]
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the juno 106 does have DCO's. Its the juno 60 that has VCO's
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