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the juno 106 does have DCO's. Its the juno 60 that has VCO's |
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cool, thanks for the info man. I'd love to find a music store that had one of those up and running to test it out, though I assume I'll never have the chance. |
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Looks great that G2 form Nord. I have the nord micromodular and the sounds I've had from it are great. I prefer using my nord lead though; I get to the sound I want quicker! |
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to be honest... i had simply read reviews on the internet... and i just went ballz deep into looking for a synth that was not OVERLY expensive... but could fucking kick a lot of other synths out there as far as sonic capabilities and sound bending tools... the Nord Modular G2 was well worth it... i'm becoming more of an insomniac because i don't want to go to sleep now that i have this instrument... i like making weird sounds with it. |
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if that synth from sonoric turns out to be as programmable as they say it is, and as long as someone out there keeps coding new ways to use it, it will probably be the next synth I buy. |
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Question: Can this poliblit be used with reason Mmmm, last I checked Reason can't host VSTis. Sorry. :-( There's probably some way to rewire reason into a vst host and host polyiblit there... but that's kinda redundant. |
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So. Is there a workaround for having to stare at a computer screen to make music with that thing? No - is there some way to program a Nord G2 without staring at a computer screen? :D |
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if I had some spare cash, Id get a G2. Id get a virus ti first though. but it doesnt matter, because I have money for neither |
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No, there isn't. But when I am in sound design mood, I don't mind having to use a computer. Thats what I do most of my sample editing on, and then load them into my mpc. But when I want to work on music, I don't want to be looking at a grid, or have to deal with a mouse/keyboard, or have to stare at a monitor. Thats why I want the nord g2. The flexibility of the computer for sound design, and the interface of a synthesizer. |
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Yeah, rewire with a program like VSTack running. |
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There is no musical instrument on earth better than a computer. |
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Ok. If you say so. |
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When I switched over from computer to hardware, there was one thing that kept on repeating in my head over and over again. Wow. This is what its supposed to feel like. |
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I would have to agree with you, if by better you mean efficient. Computers are extemely efficient musical instruments. But I don't want an instrument for efficiency. I want it for the character that it brings the music. Computers generally bring an extremely homogenous character to musicmaking. |
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Meanwhile, lets look at this wonderfully new piece of technology I just acquired today. It takes 3.5" floppies, has a whopping 16 megabytes of internal memory, and only reads, writes and plays back 12 bit samples. |
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I'm buying the sh-5 for 1,000 usd. I nknow it's steep, but it's worth it. It's local, it's in excellent condition, it's a reputable person. etc..Ebay is more of a risk. I'd rather pay the extra 150$ for less risk of shipping and shady sellers. |
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When I switched over from computer to hardware, there was one thing that kept on repeating in my head over and over again. Wow. This is what its supposed to feel like. Pffft. I play clarinet, guitar, piano, bass and drums. Don't give me your fairy tales about how twisting a few knobs is how music is supposed to feel. I can make music on the toilet with my laptop. That's how music is supposed to feel. |
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The only down side to analogue synths is you can't control all parameters with midi like you can vst's. Some synths like waldorf pulse can, but not many others. |
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yehaw bitches... i'm so happy i have one and you don't :) hehaha just joking... i agree totally |
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who the fuck uses 3.5" nowadays??? wtf mate!?!? are you going to run your samples gathered from your MPC into the akai sampler and then down grade the sample quality? what exactly are you going to do with that thing... that can't be done on your MPC? |
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You know, now that you mention it, the benefits to having hardware do seem eclipsed by the benefits of having everything in a small self contained little box. Music should totally be made on one interface. Musical instruments are supposed to be totally homogenous and clinical with logically placed gui's. It just doesn't feel right to be making music unless you have a single mouse-pointer and various windows that you have to open and close. And having to troubleshoot issues like latency and wierd hissing and clicks and processor noise are the way its supposed to be, like, for real. I like the idea of using the same place to surf the web, pay my bills, play half life 2, check my emails, ballance my checkbook and kick out the jams all at the same time. It shouldn't be up to the artist. Saying that the creative process is subjective was idiotic of me, and seeing as everybody gets inspired by the exact same things, its only logical to assume that people should be most creative when using the exact same tools. Thank you fleetmouse :) |
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So, does anybody feel like purchasing $3000 worth of hardware? Because I just noticed that my desks are cluttered with all this really cool looking and great sounding hardware that just seems to be getting in the way? |
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Yeah. Its twelve bit. I want to use it as an effect more than as a sample. ;) |
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Ideally, I am going to do all my record sampling and some editing on the s950, then re-sample it back into the mpc. |
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so it can stream audio w/o recording onto the 3.5"? using it as an effects box would seem to be quite cool |
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Well, as far as I can tell (I haven't had much of a chance to use it today), it won't effect the sound when its just going through the sampler. You have to record it, but you don't need to save it. A lot of my music is hiphop influenced. Its the same sampler engine that Dr dre uses (he has 5 mpc-60s that he uses simultaneously so he doesn't have to bother loading new sounds), and its similar in sound to what a lot of the wu-tang and other great rap was produced with. Its kind of nostalgia, but I also want some true digital grit to flavor my beats. |
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Ha ha! fortunately I don't share your technical and emotional difficulties regarding music technology. |
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Not difficulties, so much as annoyances. Emotional? Music is supposed to be emotional. |
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But a good software/DAW setup will run you about as much as a good hardware setup. So its really up to taste, now isn't it. |
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You're like one of those sad yuppies who hungers for authenticity and thinks he can internalize it by buying little burlap bags of coffee and distressed furniture. |
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man... machine... machine... man it's nice to know both |
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OK. I who said I was looking for authenticity. I'm a terror with software. I can work faster than anybody else I know in reason, fruityloops, cubase, you name it. It just got really boring. All I want is something other than a screen. Don't need to make it personal. |
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And lets not try to be assholes here. If you think software generally sounds better than hardware, then feel free to do so. But I would hate to hear what you music sounds like. |
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just an idea: all you really need is a pen and a piece of paper to write music and design modular synth structures. just draw the boxes or do it this (csound-ish)way: sequencer(trackerish): instrumentnumber starttime endtime amplitude pitch, etc modular synth: instumentnumber output module parameter, parameter, parameter ;simple example: audio1 sawtooth amplitude, pitch aflt filter audio1(input), cutoff, resonance,mode out aflt end instument this way you can adapt your music for all kinds of software and hardware, both analogue and digital. You can make synthmusic everywhere, post it as text on the internet and it doesn't crash either :) |
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I tried that out once or twice, but it didn't make any sound :( |
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heh, true but the designing of sound and writing of sequences can be done this way and when performance becomes more separated and flexible, the music itself becomes more alive and evolving(like classical music). it's like open source synth music. Maybe it's a good idea for a messageboard like this to cooperate on a piece like this |
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that last sentence didn't come out right :) |
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I really like the hardware I have. For instance a Yamaha RY-30, which was my first drum machine, an old Moog Rogue, a Waldorf Q and an Ensoniq ASR-X PRO (no big modular pieces yet). I really don't care for sequencing on hardware that much though. It is pretty tedious to get a simple arrangement going sometimes and everything ends up more loopy than I like it. Programs like Cubase and Live are indispensible to me for doing complex sequencing of entire songs, although I do still make patterns on my hardware sampler and drum machine. I really appreciate having access to the interesting VSTis that do something that your other gear doesn't. For instance granular synths, beat splicing tools, that sort of thing. I couldn't imagine trying to do intricate beat cuts on the ASR-X, however it is great for quick recording found sounds and making quick loops. I have yet to get anything like Reason and try, although I once had a copy of Generator which I could not figure out how to use. |
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As long as you are having fun and enjoying yourself. Thats all that matters. |
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No no, I like the idea of the messageboard collaborating on a written song structure! I'll start with the intro: - atmospheric pad - hoover bass - amen break - 303 squeals - amen break - tibgirl.jpg |
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Okay - Main bit of the track comes in; -Supertrigga VST applied to the Amen Break -Lowpass filter applied, cutoff starts at fully open, gradually reduced to 165hz. -303's resonance and cutoff played with, with no sense of rhythm or ordered progression. To all intents and purposes, they're just moved randomly. -Copy of the pad, but with a different waveform shape and -1 octave is added. -that picture of tridenti in the attic.jpg |
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Ha ha! Excellent. Let me stick a fork in it: - stuttered sample of Tarantino movie dialog - obvious Reaktor Carbon preset - Drunken Mastah defends homeopathy and dowsing - pitch shifted amen break - bitter dog_belch comment about his advanced age |
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Building towards a climax; -Tarantino Sample timestretched so much it becomes a warbling bassline, like an Orca's mating call. -"My God it's full of stars" sample from 2001 a Space Odessy is looped indefinately, panning from left to right and fading in and out, slightly out of rhythm with the beat. -n00b posts, "How do I make a song longer than one bar in Fruityloops"/"How do I make a song longer than 2 minutes in Reason" -Audiorealism Bassline VST replaces the 303. Pattern & knob positions are exactly the same. The analogue purists claim they can hear the difference, but fail the blind test miserably... -Massive delay added to the Pads and once a bar is played in, the notes stop. -Monoid posts about substance abuse/nihilism/how he hates the world/the price of milk/etc. -track posted to XLT with all sorts of excuses, "Hi guys, this is a work in progress, please can I have comments on how to develop it." |
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here's somehing stephen cook made. it's an 808 ish cymbal/hihat: instr 1 ; Roland TR808 Cymbal ? p3 = (p5 = 0 ? 1 : .15) ; Select open or closed ifreq = p4*540 ; Tune aenv expsega .1, .0005, 30000, p3 - .0005, .01 ; Percussive envelope asqr1 oscil 1, ifreq, 1, -1 ; Oscillator 1 asqr2 oscil 1, ifreq*1.4471, 1, -1 ; Oscillator 2 asqr3 oscil 1, ifreq*1.6170, 1, -1 ; Oscillator 3 asqr4 oscil 1, ifreq*1.9265, 1, -1 ; Oscillator 4 asqr5 oscil 1, ifreq*2.5028, 1, -1 ; Oscillator 5 asqr6 oscil 1, ifreq*2.6637, 1, -1 ; Oscillator 6 a808 sum asqr1, asqr2, asqr3, asqr4, asqr5, asqr6 ; Sum a808 butterhp a808, 5270 ; Highpass filter a808 butterhp a808, 5270 ; Highpass filter out a808*aenv ; Output endin It can give you clues on how to make that metallic sound in all kinds of programs/gear by combining squarewaves. There's also a soundonsound article about something similar on the www.soundonsound.com website. It sounds pretty good in csound |
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Crescendo: -Pads replaced by the default absynth sound. -Amen break goes in to a 40 second stutter of the first slice repeating indefinately. -Person who posted the track to XLT doesn't take any of the advise/suggestions in good humour and sees any criticism of it as a direct attack on him. -Tarantino sample is played in reverse and pitched up 2 octaves, in a crude attempt at making it sound like a DJ "rewinding a record". -Someone trying to sound clever makes a comment that is way off the mark, along the lines of, "Mate, you need to stop using the fruityloops reverb FX unit". In actuality, it was a Lexicon hardware unit, but there we go. |
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yeah, fuck math. |
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My two cents: one second after the ending of the track a superloud voice blasts... BAM IN YOUR CUNT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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