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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-16 06:49 [#01842366]
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RIAA are really starting to clutch at straws...
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2006-02-16 06:56 [#01842371]
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RIAA = BAD
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2006-02-16 06:57 [#01842372]
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-16 07:00 [#01842373]
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Next BIYC release is something from Sony.
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2006-02-16 07:00 [#01842376]
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Haha, good idea :D
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-02-16 07:01 [#01842378]
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"Nor does the fact that permission to make a copy in particular circumstances is often or even routinely granted, necessarily establish that the copying is a fair use when the copyright owner withholds that authorization. In this regard, the statement attributed to counsel for copyright owners in the MGM v. Grokster case is simply a statement about authorization, not about fair use."
what is it they're saying here? that even if you buy a product, the person who has the copyright of that product can both authorize and limit what you are allowed to do with the product? so if panasonic tells me I'm not allowed to watch game shows on my television, I have to abide by that? ..or am I just reading it wrong? I've had a long day...
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-02-16 07:07 [#01842380]
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anyway, as I understand it, the rights in the copyright, limits itself to right of publication and (re)production of something, not right to decide how an item is to be used. have they gone mad? (or have I?)
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2006-02-16 07:25 [#01842384]
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They're saying if they don't give permission to make a copy of one of their cd's, you can't lawfully make a copy (ie upload it to yr ipod) . It is the copyright of the actual music that you'd infringe. As much as Panasonic wouldn't like it if you'd 'copy' their television, I guess. The point is that they keep changing their perspective on this, apparently. Or am I reading this wrong?
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-02-16 07:34 [#01842389]
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well, what you're saying they're saying seems more sensible, but I think they're blurring the line here.. they're using the word "use" themselves, so they must in some way mean that copying the cd is "improper use," and that there is "proper (fair?) use" so there's still something about "copyright" inhibiting "use."
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-02-16 08:04 [#01842393]
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ohhh.. "fair use" is a concept of sorts... it's about "the legal, non-licensed citation or incorporation of copyrighted material in another author's work"?
..I still don't see how this would in any way make it possible for the copyright holder to limit copying from cd to ipod...
oh, well, this is all US law, so I don't have to worry about it, really...
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2006-02-16 12:28 [#01842584]
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someone should inform the RIAA what my old man used to tell me. "nobody said life was supposed to be fair."
copyright law is totally broken. thanks to Disney mostly. every time Disney was about to lose the rights to Mickey Mouse, they pumped a ton of lobbying dollars into extending copyright law. where copyrights used to only last a dozen years or so, now they last well over 100 years (something like 75 years + the life of the originator).
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2006-02-16 12:33 [#01842585]
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Missy Elliot and Dr. Dre are a couple of those artists that are on the RIAA's side. One time I heard Dr. Dre say something like "when you steal my music, you're taking food outta my kids mouths."
and I was watching MTV cribs once and Missy elliot had a bed made out of a ferrari. a real fucking ferrari.
Now please, lets shed a tear for these poor starving artists and their lost record sales.
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-16 12:33 [#01842587]
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the life of the author + 70 years, i think.
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staz
on 2006-02-16 13:07 [#01842627]
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soon it will be illegal to listen to cds, but you will still be able to buy them
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OK
on 2006-02-16 13:25 [#01842649]
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well they can't do anything abouyt it soo
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-16 14:04 [#01842689]
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They're a bunch of cunts.
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euphonicfilter
from illadelphia (United States) on 2006-02-16 14:14 [#01842700]
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dr. dre signed eminem - his children deserve to starve for that move...
like we needed white trash to be promoted and have a leader
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2006-02-16 14:36 [#01842728]
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we agree for once.
who would have thought that?
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2006-02-16 15:07 [#01842760]
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seriously, hearing a cd is like copying the data into your brain. humming back that song into a microphone for an audience is further infringement of copyright. and everyone who hears it and hums it to their friends is illegally sharing that copy. the RIAA hates hum jobs.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2006-02-16 15:15 [#01842768]
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broken copyright law has frozen the public domain.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2006-02-16 15:23 [#01842773]
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funny off topic:
Google generated a funny target ad for my search. you really can find anything you want at ebay:
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2006-02-16 16:45 [#01842830]
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wait.
wait a bit more.
is it just me or has the mass marketing industry that drives the cd market actively encouraged people to use cds in computers for at least the last 5 years by putting extra multimedia on them?
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