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RIAA Says Ripping CDs to Your iPod is NOT Fair Use
 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-16 06:49 [#01842366]
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RIAA are really starting to clutch at straws...


 

offline impakt from where we do not speak of! on 2006-02-16 06:56 [#01842371]
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RIAA = BAD


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offline impakt from where we do not speak of! on 2006-02-16 06:57 [#01842372]
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offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-16 07:00 [#01842373]
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Next BIYC release is something from Sony.


 

offline impakt from where we do not speak of! on 2006-02-16 07:00 [#01842376]
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Haha, good idea :D


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-02-16 07:01 [#01842378]
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"Nor does the fact that permission to make a copy in
particular circumstances is often or even routinely granted,
necessarily establish that the copying is a fair use when
the copyright owner withholds that authorization. In this
regard, the statement attributed to counsel for copyright
owners in the MGM v. Grokster case is simply a statement
about authorization, not about fair use."

what is it they're saying here? that even if you buy a
product, the person who has the copyright of that product
can both authorize and limit what you are allowed to do with
the product? so if panasonic tells me I'm not allowed to
watch game shows on my television, I have to abide by that?
..or am I just reading it wrong? I've had a long day...


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-02-16 07:07 [#01842380]
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anyway, as I understand it, the rights in the
copyright, limits itself to right of publication and
(re)production of something, not right to decide how an item
is to be used. have they gone mad? (or have I?)


 

offline Netlon Sentinel from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2006-02-16 07:25 [#01842384]
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They're saying if they don't give permission to make a copy
of one of their cd's, you can't lawfully make a copy (ie
upload it to yr ipod) . It is the copyright of the actual
music that you'd infringe. As much as Panasonic wouldn't
like it if you'd 'copy' their television, I guess. The point
is that they keep changing their perspective on this,
apparently. Or am I reading this wrong?


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-02-16 07:34 [#01842389]
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well, what you're saying they're saying seems more sensible,
but I think they're blurring the line here.. they're using
the word "use" themselves, so they must in some way mean
that copying the cd is "improper use," and that there is
"proper (fair?) use" so there's still something about
"copyright" inhibiting "use."


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-02-16 08:04 [#01842393]
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ohhh.. "fair use" is a concept of sorts... it's about
"the legal, non-licensed citation or incorporation of
copyrighted material in another author's work
"?

..I still don't see how this would in any way make it
possible for the copyright holder to limit copying from cd
to ipod...

oh, well, this is all US law, so I don't have to worry about
it, really...


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2006-02-16 12:28 [#01842584]
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someone should inform the RIAA what my old man used to tell
me. "nobody said life was supposed to be fair."

copyright law is totally broken. thanks to Disney mostly.
every time Disney was about to lose the rights to Mickey
Mouse, they pumped a ton of lobbying dollars into extending
copyright law. where copyrights used to only last a dozen
years or so, now they last well over 100 years (something
like 75 years + the life of the originator).


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2006-02-16 12:33 [#01842585]
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Missy Elliot and Dr. Dre are a couple of those artists that
are on the RIAA's side. One time I heard Dr. Dre say
something like "when you steal my music, you're taking food
outta my kids mouths."

and I was watching MTV cribs once and Missy elliot had a bed
made out of a ferrari. a real fucking ferrari.

Now please, lets shed a tear for these poor starving artists
and their lost record sales.


 

offline mylittlesister from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-16 12:33 [#01842587]
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the life of the author + 70 years, i think.


 

offline staz on 2006-02-16 13:07 [#01842627]
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soon it will be illegal to listen to cds, but you will still
be able to buy them


 

offline OK on 2006-02-16 13:25 [#01842649]
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well they can't do anything abouyt it soo


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-16 14:04 [#01842689]
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They're a bunch of cunts.


 

offline euphonicfilter from illadelphia (United States) on 2006-02-16 14:14 [#01842700]
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dr. dre signed eminem - his children deserve to starve for
that move...

like we needed white trash to be promoted and have a leader


 

offline vlari from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2006-02-16 14:36 [#01842728]
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we agree for once.

who would have thought that?


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2006-02-16 15:07 [#01842760]
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seriously, hearing a cd is like copying the data into your
brain. humming back that song into a microphone for an
audience is further infringement of copyright. and everyone
who hears it and hums it to their friends is illegally
sharing that copy. the RIAA hates hum jobs.


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2006-02-16 15:15 [#01842768]
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broken copyright law has frozen the public domain.



 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2006-02-16 15:23 [#01842773]
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funny off topic:

Google generated a funny target ad for my search. you really
can find anything you want at ebay:


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offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2006-02-16 16:45 [#01842830]
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wait.

wait a bit more.

is it just me or has the mass marketing industry that drives
the cd market actively encouraged people to use cds in
computers for at least the last 5 years by putting extra
multimedia on them?


 


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