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Labium Sweat
from United States on 2006-01-24 14:16 [#01826253]
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Hey everyone who gives a shit about Coil.
I submitted an idea to Thresholdhouse.com suggesting that they should sell compilations of Coil's out of print (all of them) albums on DVDs as either solid uncompressed images (Alcohol 120% or Nero) or even plain wav files.
They haven't replied yet... so I take it they thought it was a retarded idea...
What do you guys think?
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2006-01-24 14:33 [#01826283]
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it's not a retarded idea, but i'd much rather see their albums get a re-release in the usa so that i can finally fucking afford them. i can't believe every indie label in the country isn't knocking down their door trying to license coil's material.
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paolo_p
from behind on 2006-01-24 14:33 [#01826284]
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dude u heve 888 points QUIKC SOME1 TAKE SSCREENCAP.
DUE
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-01-24 14:36 [#01826292]
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yeah, I'd rather have normal rereleases on cd.
still, I'd buy a dvd full of Coilstuff.
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uzim
on 2006-01-24 16:27 [#01826370]
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same here, i'd like to have rereleases on cd.
i'd like to have queens of the circulating library on cd, among others... there must be some place that still has it, i've found constant shallowness leads to evil in london this summer...
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uzim
on 2006-01-24 16:31 [#01826373]
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i'm having mixed feelings about the ape of naples by the way...
(there was a thread about it but you know how the search engine is.)
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2006-01-24 16:32 [#01826374]
Points: 14210 Status: Regular | Followup to uzim: #01826373
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what do you think about it? i'm interested to know. i haven't heard it
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uzim
on 2006-01-24 17:21 [#01826431]
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some tracks are really beautiful, but a few others are kind of naff... jhonn's vocals are not as good as they usually are i think, and the whole album has a slow/"self-indulgent" atmosphere i'm not that fond of. i get the impression that it lacks something...
'fire of the mind': bad choice for an introduction, as this is one of the naff ones. in my opinion. some instruments sound kitsch but not in a good way, and i don't like jhonn's singing so much on it. : /
'the last amethyst deceiver': a new version of amethyst deceivers, more atmospheric/mellow, and very beautiful.
'tattoed man': not sure i like it that much. it sounds a bit... ironic/nasal/happy-sad, with a circus-like melody.
'triple sun': now that's a lovely one. if you've heard ...and the ambulance died in his arms, you've heard it, it's the studio version of 'triple sun introduction'. basically the same track, doesn't change much at all. it's also very simple, a bit like a loop that could go on forever. but lovely.
'it's in my blood': does that line sound familiar to you? ...yes, that's another reworking of an old track (called 'a.y.o.r.' - non-album track). but much slower, with strings also (the original loop is kept though) and a different feel. it has a palpable tension within.
'i don't get it': jhonn's voice gets mental in this one, but the vocals are really (unfortunately?) in the background of the song... which has apart from that the same slow/stringed/kitschy/"self-indulgent" atmosphere as the rest of the album, except that there are saxophones too (i like them very much).
'heaven's blade': a different mood than the rest of the album, with a darker, more "alive" atmosphere. one of the best ones on the album, i think.
'cold cell': again, a reworking of an old track (called 'a cold cell'). i like this version better, didn't like the original 'a cold cell' that much but this one's good... yes, the album has a lot of new versions of old tracks.
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uzim
on 2006-01-24 17:24 [#01826434]
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'teenage lightning 2005': as i was saying... (couldn't they have found a better title than just adding '2005' at the end? kinda sucks -_-). this one is the least "improving" of the new versions, and copy-pasting the laughter from the end of constant shallowness leads to evil at the end of the track wasn't a good idea either. but it's good nevertheless.
'amber rain': another one where i don't like jhonn's vocals that much. jhonn was a particular kind of singer for me - i like his voice a lot when he speaks and screams, but not that much when he sings... apart from that, pretty good. sounding very sad.
'going up': the instrumental part is flawless or almost, but then again i'll complain on the vocals. this time they're not from jhonn balance though (!)... another singer does them, opera-style. (i also have difficulty with the fact that the last track on the last album by coil has lyrics like "ground floor perfumery, stationery and leather goods..." and is a tribute to a tv show apparently. o_o)
all in all, it's still a good album i think... it's worth getting. but just not "perfect" nor mindblowing.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2006-01-24 17:43 [#01826456]
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thanks very much for the review! ;)
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2006-01-24 21:33 [#01826561]
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it was my understanding that they were going to try to make coil's entire discography available digitally or something to that effect... so yeah, maybe that idea would be viable... as for Ape of Naples, i like it definitely, but i think Black Antlers (a not so old cdR release) was amazing, and i was disappointed not to see more revamped tracks from that on there... come on now, we need a proper mastering of Sex with Sun Ra!!!
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asjbfoo
from DeKalb, IL (United States) on 2006-01-24 21:53 [#01826566]
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There is another (extended) version of Sex with Sun Ra that you might want to check out. You can download it here: http://homepage.mac.com/fatfez/FileSharing14.html
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asjbfoo
from DeKalb, IL (United States) on 2006-01-24 21:57 [#01826568]
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The only entirely new track on "Ape of Naples" are Fire of the Mind, Amber Rain, and Going Up. It's In My Blood, I Don't Get It, and Heaven's Blade are all reworkings of tracks originally recorded for Backwards, which obviously never got released. Tatooed Man was only played live as far as I know, and the rest are from previous albums.
just thought I'd say that
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2006-01-24 22:11 [#01826570]
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thanks, sir.
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2006-01-24 22:16 [#01826573]
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'most accidents occur at home"=one of the most disturbing lines Jhonn Balance ever sang...
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rogu rarebit
from beggin' for leggings on 2006-01-24 22:19 [#01826576]
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That link is a good link. Lots of goodies!
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2006-01-25 02:03 [#01826639]
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fantastic
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chambre noire
from Iceland on 2006-01-25 02:38 [#01826649]
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now playing: Coil - Fire Of The Mind what a beautiful track.....
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uzim
on 2006-01-25 05:09 [#01826696]
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thanks : )
sex with sun ra is amazing indeed... isn't it subtitled "pt.1: saturnalia"? is there a pt.2 available somewhere?
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2006-01-25 05:37 [#01826699]
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Man, we have the exact opposite views on this album, ha. I think Tatooed Man is beautiful and darkly funny and sad, and Heaven's Blade is the bad kind of cheese. And I love how the album opens. But even when I disagree, I can see where you're coming from. Overall I love the album, though it's kind of grab-bag of styles and sounds. The album had a great first impression on me because some of the songs are stunning, but after about ten listens, it's suddenly gotten stale for me. Eh.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2006-01-25 05:45 [#01826701]
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new thighpaulsandra album is pretty wicked too btw, any fans of that one?
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rogu rarebit
from beggin' for leggings on 2006-01-25 06:54 [#01826742]
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Chamber Music you mean? I have been meaning to get that since I read a review in The Wire.
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asjbfoo
from DeKalb, IL (United States) on 2006-01-25 07:29 [#01826758]
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I remember reading somewhere (maybe the coil mailing list) that Tatooed Man was supposed to be a continuation of the ideas of Sex With Sun Ra. Maybe not exactly "part 2", but if you listen to the lyrics you can sortof make the connection.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2006-01-25 07:50 [#01826767]
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that's the one. speaking of wire, there's a lovely dvd included with the february issue..
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Labium Sweat
from United States on 2006-01-25 12:15 [#01826984]
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I like 'Fire of the Mind' and 'Tatooed Man' well...
There is actually a site on the net with the MP3s of that thing, just look up 'Ape of Naples' and 'MP3' on yahoo. Make sure to use a download resume program... since 2 and 6 always fuck up.
Anyway, I haven't heard any of Thighpaulsandra's stuff... I was thinking about buying 'I', but haven't got around to it. Supposedly one site still has it that I can think of...
I'll search for 'Queens of the Cir...'
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Labium Sweat
from United States on 2006-01-25 12:17 [#01826985]
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Ahem... would any of you guys be interested in trading DVDs with album images through the mail?
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Labium Sweat
from United States on 2006-01-25 14:42 [#01827178]
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Anyone?... Email me if you are interested.
don_juan_darko@yahoo.com
Make sure to head the letter
'DVD trade'
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2006-05-22 16:27 [#01904987]
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looks like black antlers is getting a proper release later this year so i think i'll hold off on that one untill its mastered properly. Just ordered Ape of Naples, better late than never :)
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lateral speid
from LOS ANGELES (United States) on 2006-05-23 00:13 [#01905102]
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its worth the 25 and upwards to buy the releases anyway
ive spent several hundreds on coil releases boxsets limited editions etc
and dont regret a penny and i would never consider selling any of them
this holds true for other bands in the same caliber
nurse with wound, the hafler trio, blah blah blah
good art doesnt come cheap
also i HIGHLY recommend the entire catalog of Thighpaulsandra
its quite brilliant
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uzim
on 2006-05-23 03:09 [#01905141]
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oh, good! : )
Black Antlers is excellent... i like it a lot better than The Ape of Naples...
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uzim
on 2006-07-20 04:09 [#01940283]
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the re-releases are indeed coming..!
i'll be getting Black Antlers and The Remote Viewer (i already have the two Musicks To Play In The Dark - in the beige/strange-coloured second edition)...
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-07-20 08:46 [#01940423]
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those look fantastic!
I always thought "...and the ambulance died in his arms" is one of the best album titles ever.
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rogu rarebit
from beggin' for leggings on 2006-07-21 00:28 [#01940939]
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Yay! I hope they re-release more stuff, like Black Light District and Time Machines.
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axion
from planet rock (Sweden) on 2006-07-21 04:35 [#01940983]
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ok i must say he is wrong is an excellent album and on this album he shows what a great voice he have.
it like pierces in to your heart on this album at least to me.and the music is so good produced
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obara
from Utrecht on 2006-10-05 04:13 [#01982387]
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remote viewing 3 reminds me so much of Autechre - peel session\03. drane
"remote viewer" , "black antlers" = excellent re-releases
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uzim
on 2006-10-05 04:34 [#01982392]
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"remote viewer" , "black antlers" = excellent re-releases
> i have ordered them (even pre-ordered), i hope they'll arrive soon...
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obara
from Utrecht on 2006-10-05 07:44 [#01982472]
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black antlers might be in my top5 coil albums. i heard that the re-release version sounds much better to the cd-r
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lateral speid
from LOS ANGELES (United States) on 2006-10-05 21:10 [#01982867]
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the reissues of black antlers and the remote viewer sound amazing compared to their original releases both awesome cds!!
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2006-10-06 02:26 [#01982962]
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the extra tracks are nice, but it was already fucking amazing to begin with. i'm glad this will finally get something remotely resembling wide circulation.
remote viewer is nice too. yayay
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