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ToXikFB
on 2006-01-17 11:38 [#01820774]
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-01-17 11:39 [#01820777]
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2006-01-17 11:49 [#01820784]
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from real life on 2006-01-17 11:54 [#01820788]
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tridenti
from Milano (Italy) on 2006-01-17 11:54 [#01820789]
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Dozer
on 2006-01-17 12:36 [#01820816]
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-01-17 12:44 [#01820820]
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OK.
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melack
from barcielwave on 2006-01-17 12:48 [#01820826]
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ive already done it some minutes ago, but ok:
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oyvinto
on 2006-01-17 13:22 [#01820847]
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2006-01-17 13:30 [#01820853]
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2006-01-17 13:43 [#01820858]
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there were a million desktop icons so i hid them to make myself look not-so messy
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-01-17 13:52 [#01820861]
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Mamoru Oshii concept art?
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2006-01-17 13:53 [#01820862]
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I never get tired of good old grey.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2006-01-17 13:54 [#01820865]
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masamune shirow book art, high quality scan
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2006-01-17 13:57 [#01820866]
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dozer, got a link to that wallpaper?
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2006-01-17 14:05 [#01820870]
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oyvinto
on 2006-01-17 14:17 [#01820875]
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j4ck
from United Kingdom on 2006-01-17 14:58 [#01820892]
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Fah
from Netherlands, The on 2006-01-17 15:56 [#01820918]
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same as fleetmouse's only with two-row taskbar
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Fah
from Netherlands, The on 2006-01-17 15:58 [#01820919]
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actually fleetmouse, your desktop is basicly the same as mine. Only thing different here is also the Reaktor5 icon
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2006-01-17 16:38 [#01820960]
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tut tut, looks like i'm the only one round here using Linux as my main system
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-01-17 16:48 [#01820968]
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r40f is, i believe. his looks like a gnome desktop.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2006-01-17 16:51 [#01820971]
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you are correct!
i need sleep :(
r40f i salute you :D
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-01-17 16:54 [#01820972]
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Why the tuts?
I tried Linux, it was shit.
So I could tut tut you.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2006-01-17 16:57 [#01820979]
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i heed your "tut tut" and i triple tut you for not understanding why i tut tutted in the first place!
tut tut tut
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2006-01-17 17:00 [#01820982]
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yes, i've got the linux. but i wish i could use windows, quite honestly.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-01-17 17:00 [#01820983]
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I understand why you tutted, it was pointless though. When Linux is as easy to install, use and run properly as Windows then I may use it. Until then. No.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2006-01-17 17:02 [#01820984]
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SuSE 10 is a piece of piss to install and use :)
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2006-01-17 17:05 [#01820985]
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goto vmware.com
goto the VMware Workstation section
download the latest version (5.5.1 for Linux) from the "Workstation Downloads" section on the right hand side
get a magic number either from myself or a reputable website
install Windows XP and run it within a virtual machine
admittedly you ain't gonna be running Cubase and Reason under it (you're better off with a separate partition and running Windows natively of course) but for other tasks that aren't as system heavy (watching vids you can't see in Linux, etc etc etc) it's great
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2006-01-17 17:08 [#01820988]
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thanks very much, but i don't think that will work for me for exactly the reasons you describe. i would need a ton of memory for the sort of programs i would want to run, and i can do everything else with linux, so... kind of pointless.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2006-01-17 17:11 [#01820991]
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ahh well, i think it's great...at least from the perspective that if i wanna check a website that i can't view in Konquerer, i don't need to boot Windows, i can just fire up VMware and run it in a virtual machine
also i can tinker around with other operating systems and so on :)
just out of curiosity what made you wanna use Linux?
i started using it back in 1997/98 because i have always loved DOS and command line driven stuff, and i thought messing about with a UNIX like system would be cool to learn
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-01-17 17:12 [#01820992]
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Not when I tried it. Admittedly, I got it installed after decoding which was the hard drive I wanted to use. It wonderfully decided to tell me the serial numbers or something instead of drive letters.
Wonderful. Of course, once it was installed there was the hardware incompatibility errors. I managed to sort that, thank fuck for work laptops. I couldn't solve one major problem though, random freezes, couldn't get networking running (wireless support is a fucking joke) and ethernet wouldn't work either. Despite following various "official" instructions and "unofficial" instructions the networking would not work. I spent a couple of days trying this and gave up and installed Longhorn for a laugh. Installed straight away, correct drive letters, multi booted without me having to test different bootloaders. Networking bang on near enough from the start. Just had to put in the access codes. This is beta and it's an easier starting experience. This is Microsoft. It was easier.
I don't care about command line action. The only command line I want to use is ipconfig on the odd occasion and stupid ascii pictures for nostalgia.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2006-01-17 17:21 [#01820997]
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ok, well firstly your drive letters are nothing to do with your physical hard drives but to do with the way that Windows and DOS sees them. i found this out whilst trying to get linux set up on my first hard drive and Windows up on my second one...funnily enough Windows saw my second drive as C.
i do however understand your frustration with wireless support, and i totally understand what you mean about trying to get it up and running - Linux can be a bitch to configure to your system....but that is both the bain and beauty of it - a system that you can completely customize to your own exact specifications...unfortunately it can sometimes require a lot of time, effort and patience on your part and some knowledgeable friends.
i had a bastard of a time trying to get my DVD-RAM burner to work as i wanted it to, same with my floppy drive and removable media...i had to go in and configure my /etc/fstab manually so it didn't use subfs to automatically mount the disks...still not quite got it right.
Linux is a hacker's OS - and no, i don't mean hacker in the sense of 733T H@x0R...i mean hacker in the sense of a computer geek like me who really wants to understand a system different from the status quo, and spend time messing around with it.
i have to say, i'm disappointed by all the shit i'm gonna have to do to get a decent MIDI sequencer working on here :(
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-01-17 17:22 [#01820998]
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hahahaha VMWARE. hahahahahaha. ha.
and yeah, using linux as a desktop system.. i don't know what you're doing.
it's for servers. sure there's openoffice, firefox, (dodgy) ipod/mp3 player functionality.. but you know when you find a new killer app, there could be no linux port ever, depending on how much of a niche app it is.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-01-17 17:23 [#01820999]
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oh yeah, and unless your monitor looks like this when you boot your pc into linux, you're not using linux. you're using some piece-of-shit desktop environment that's hiding all the nice stuff.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-01-17 17:23 [#01821000]
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Good point on the drive letters. I always forget that. However, if they want people to convert they need to find a middle ground.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2006-01-17 17:24 [#01821001]
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i never actually wanted to use linux. my computer died last spring and i couldn't get windows to reinstall (despite the efforts of some very computer-savvy xlt-ers who graciously tried to help me), so i was stuck with linux. i tried a few horrible styles of it before i got ubuntu to work, and it's been working ok since i got the hang of it. it really hasn't been any better than windows at all, performance-wise. and i lost all my music software.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-01-17 17:27 [#01821006]
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I still blame Jesus for that.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-01-17 17:28 [#01821008]
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No way.
Linux observes the POSIX standard.. it's windows that's out-of-step. trust me, the hda/hdb/hdc1234 etc system makes much more sense.
everything on the computer is a file. harddrives, monitors, mice, modems. it's wonderful.
wonderful, that is, for programmers.. not for users. it's not built as a user OS.. it's a server OS. i seriously can't stand this whole crucade to get people to change to linux. it makes no sense..
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2006-01-17 17:29 [#01821009]
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the distro's like Ubuntu are coming a long way i've heard...particularly in trying to make the whole Linux experience a bit more user friendly (in terms of Windows-switchers) but i guess we'll never get rid of the old Microsoft thing
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-01-17 17:32 [#01821016]
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hahahahaha :D
Well, I need to learn how to use UNIX as part of my job now so I'll no doubt use some of that knowledge.
I also want to set up a propeer fileserver at home :D
Any news on Glade this year?
Stanstead airport is my nearest :D!
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2006-01-17 17:34 [#01821021]
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personally for me, it's not about "oh i've GOT to get the latest distro on my machine so i can be different!" it's about the fact that i'm learning a new system that not a lot of other people will know about (i'm being very loose here)
at the moment my OS experience counts as:
DOS Windows (pretty much every version except Windows Server 2003 and Longhorn/Vista)
Mac OS 7.6.x Mac OS 8.x Mac OS 9.x Mac OS X 10.x SuSE Linux (6.0, 7.3 and 10.0) BeOS Personal Edition BeOS Professional Edition 5.03
i really wanna get hold of a proper install disc(s) for OS/2 Warp 4 so i can just learn how to use it.....i dunno why, but operating systems interest me and i'd like to know as much as i can about each one....just so i can learn
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-01-17 17:34 [#01821022]
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I'll give ubuntu live some credit. It was useful when I had a powercut whilst the computer was booting.
redrum will vouch for my state of annoyed that night.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-01-17 17:34 [#01821023]
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hehe :) made me smile right there. cheers mate. no, no news. dunno if i'll be making it over. we'll see. i'll definitely keep that in mind. cheers.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-01-17 17:37 [#01821030]
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yeah i was gonna haul you up on having no PC/DOS or OS/2 experience there.
OS's are neat. i used to be into them in a big way. had OS2 warp and the previous version at home. there were many days when I was at primary school when i'd install it on the computer when i got home at 3, play around with it, then try to remove it and get everything back to normal by the time my parents arrived home at 8.
very nerdy but i had a good time. nice memories. i'm glad you've checked BeOS out. I loved it when I used to use it - pity it crashed so much. I have Zeta installed on this laptop right now but can't use it cos my network card conflicts with my soundcard and makes this clicking noise... all my mp3s are on my server, so i have no use for either piece of hardware without the other.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-01-17 17:38 [#01821032]
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Sure thing dude. The offer is there if you do come over :)
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2006-01-17 17:43 [#01821042]
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i need to buy ZETA actually, will probably have to leave it until a few wage slips down the line though, but i'll be really happy if i can get it running on my machine....proper original BeOS won't install on my Athlon64 :( Run's ok in M$ Virtual PC but i haven't tried it in VMware yet
PC/DOS.....isn't that very very very similar to MS-DOS? I had a tinker around with 4DOS, and quite liked that :)
btw nifty on the little challenges you used to set yourself....get it all back up and running by 8, that'd hardly give you enough time to have a play around though man!
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-01-17 17:43 [#01821044]
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i bet you haven't really had experience of every version of windows :)
1.0 is notoriously buggy by the way. i'm sure you know that. it's hilarious to see what it looks like though. god knows if it works on today's hardware. and i downloaded it back in the day from a different site, can't vouch for the files on that page.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-01-17 17:47 [#01821048]
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oooh they've released a free upgrade to zeta 1.1...
ps sorry for wrecking your thread paddy.
oscillik: yes but once i had figured out partitioning and made my own boot disk (my dad would've freaked at the sight of a bootscreen.. he knew his stuff but he'd have been pissed that i was screwing around with stuff)
PC/DOS is what bill gates stole and brought to form microsoft and release as MSDOS. yes it's pretty much the same. you can even play MSDOS games in its later versions..... in windows in OS2. i was dumbfounded by that. prince of persia inside a window. wicked.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2006-01-17 17:50 [#01821052]
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hehe, i got Windows 1.0 and Windows 2.03 running on Virtual PC back when i had my PowerBook last year, yes it was quite funny seeing in front of me what was basically some very garish colours on my screen! if i remember correctly, (can't remember if it was Windows 1 or 2) but the way it represented the director structure of the hard drive wasn't even icon based - it was still text based, except you double-clicked on the name of the file/directory!
if i can get a working Mac emulator and ROM i'd be interested to check out that ancient version of MacOS though, thanks for the link :D
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