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I felt inclined to bunk my medieval history A-level mock exam last Monday because I know very little about the subject despite a year and a half's worth of work done by me towards it. All I've got for recent exams and essays is grades ranging from 'D' to 'E-'. I will be taking the exam tomorrow and despite all my best efforts over the last few days only one of those who I consider my friends has been willing to tell me what the questions are. All the rest refuse to even though it makes no difference to them as they are A grade candidates anyway. It appears they are happy to watch me sink rather than help me to swim. I feel so betrayed by them and this has made me call into question who my true friends really are as opposed to those "friends" who are merely plot devices in the story that is life and whom I can't rely on. I have 4 friends. This seems rather little. What about You? |
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i will be your friend |
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Four friends is very good going, I believe. |
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mery xmas |
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thanks hanal, it means a lot. |
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your friends sound like pricks. ditch them, become great at something else and later wave at the fuckers smugly from your expensive Mercedes. |
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You sound thick and lazy. Why should your friends help you rise from the bottom of the academic foodchain? If you were a real friend, you wouldn't put them in such an awkward situation. Oh, and "Two large cokes and a Chicken McSandwich please." |
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are you on dickhead pills today |
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no offense, but maybe if you spent your time reading up and studying versus posting on this wonderful message board, you wouldn't need to cheat/get ahead of everyone else. |
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It says "bastard pills" on the bottle. |
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that is exactly the attitude all these elitist bastards I call friends take and it's fucking wrong. I am not thick as I will get As in both English Literature and Spanihs come the summer, I just have so much difficulty memorising dates and facts from the lives of pointless monks called bollocks names like Leo XXXI and Hildebrand. Perhaps I have put them in an awkward situation, but I for one would always help someone else out if they can't grasp a subject irrelevant of whether they're a friend or not. |
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ive always had four or five very close friends as opposed to 20+ not so close friends - i have, however, known these people for over 20 years... |
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a friend will help you learn and grow a friend will not help you cheat |
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"No, just regular fries please." |
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keep your friends close, and your enemies closer! |
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I've never really understood that quote.. I mean, Iago puts it into good practice in Othello if you consider Othello to be his enemy but aside from that.. ? |
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well stick with one a day not two |
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"would you like fries with that?" |
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I find it very difficult to concerntrate on work related material, too. Often, the synthesizers, plugins, and messageboards call me, and such temptations are very hard to resit. Oh yes. |
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i think they have no obligation to cheat for you also its only a mock exam so shut your yap |
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Get used to saying that. |
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resit? Resist. Although "Resit" might make a nice name on the front of a CD..."Resit"..."Resit"...er.. |
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only a mock, precisely more reason for them to help me out. What do they lose? All I want is one 'A' grade on this. Not so that I can show off to my parents or any of that shit or even to please myself, I just want to show that scumbag of a teacher I have that I'm not a useless cretin. It's hopeless, I simply can't revise. I can't do it. |
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So...you're not a "useless cretin", but you want to cheat on an exam like a thick chav cretin. |
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you mean you want to create a compellingly convincing lie to falsely show that you are not a useless cretin. |
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it's not exactly cheating. It's know he question so I can go away and revise specifically for that, thus actually getting some decent work done and getting a decent grade. Without the question I have to revise everything and it'll just be broad general crap that doesn't help me. |
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yes, that's right. Argh. |
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your friends act like self-righteous assholes and i don`t consider its cheating. i never understood this "i-know-whats-good-for-you-although-you-dont-think-so" attitude. i find it abusive. like they think you are not mature/clever enough to decide by yourself. |
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the point of having an exam with four potential essay type questions where the professor will only require you to know one and expound on it is that you will LEARN the material not so you can just regurgitate facts and be done with it |
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hello soulmate euphonicfilter: you actually have to do 4 essay questions from 6 |
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learning stuff requires a practical understanding that is positively discouraged in school... your marked down for mistakes mistakes are BAD... but making mistakes is the only way u learn fuck school... crock. of. shit. |
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why are you doing history? it has no use at all. do geology and physics and get a job with NASA as a planetary scientist, who just gets paid to sit there and look at pictures of mars over a cup of coffee. write music in your spare time. probably make more friends this way too. im at some lame 6th form college, sometimes i hate being there since i know so few people there, but its not for much longer at least |
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those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.. next semester. *baddumching* |
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looks like it's only a few more months left for both of us at our 6th form colleges. I really fucked up taking history, it's utterly pointless and I find myself unable to stay interested in it before it has so little affect upon me. Spanish is a language I can speak and means I can communicate with so many other people around the world and english literature (especially poetry) can at times affect me and make me feel emotion. History on the other hand, is deadpan and about as interesting as geraldine's last 15 posts. |
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ha, human geography is equally crap (mite be down to the annoying old senile welsh teacher though) |
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you can pick your friends, you can pick your nose, but you cant pick your friends nose |
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asking for the questions makes you a fucking retard, TRUE. your friends are awesomer than you. |
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My ha'penny's worth; if you were proper friend to them, you wouldn't put them in the unpleasent position of asking them. If they're A grade candidates, they're likely to of worked hard for it and understandably don't want to devalue that by helping you get a higher grade than you deserve. |
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let me explain some of the ways it is retarded: - the principle use of school is to learn. if you are just there to get good enough grades to get a good enough job to get a good enough amount of money to not hate yourself, you are a fucking loser. - you're being a dick to all the people who decently prepared. Especially to you're friends; it's better just not to ask some things. The asker is the culprit; you put your friends in a lose lose situation; either they are dicks to you or to everyone else and to themselves. - you're admitting that you are stupid. |
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in a way things like that degrade an institution as well.. make the rankings less deterministic. (I've been a TA for three semesters so I'm very sensitive to things like this. I mean when you give someone who tried a bad grade, it hurts. if some fucker just went in and cheated..) |
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okay, so maybe I deserve an E but do they really care enough about morals to force me to get my E when through their help I could get a C? Besides, we know what the questions are for essays and it doesn't mean I can easily do all of those. |
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I'm sick and tired of getting bad grades for history. I always have the worst grade in the class. I don't try and I get a 'D'. The next week I try, and come out with a 'E' and I'm baffled. So why not find out what the questions are and try really hard to answer them as best I can? It's not cheating really. |
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get better at trying. Life isn't that easy; for instance, see the global warming article. |
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i had shit grades in school cause i spent the whole time day-dreaming and trying to get into girls pants... i think it turned out ok though, because i worked my ass off at every job ive had, i am smart, and i learned things on my own i can apply to real life fuck school |
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oh yeah, i also dont live in my parents basement like %90 of recent USA college grads ! |
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you are an inspiration to 90% of us all |
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The following is of course all according to my own moral code: The problem with any sort of cheating, or even "unfair help", is not so much that you get something for free (a better grade), more that it makes the people who do deserve the better grades work less valuable. Part of the point of grading is that it shows a level of understanding of a subject. If you (and say, half a dozen other people in the same position) get onto a university course in history with a grade C, then fail miserably because you're not good enough, it makes the university raise their entry threshold. So, next year people who are capable of doing the course, who get Cs, get turned away, "because those C students last year couldn't hack it". Later in life, you'll find it's even more serious. Your degree results in certain fields really do dictate your career opportunities. This "raising the bar" (or "declining standards" as it's often mistaken for) means people are denied jobs they by all rights would be able to do, so in a wider context than your mocks, I would say, yes, it does matter. I work my nuts off during my degree (I never used to; my A-levels were poor), regularly staying up all night to finish coursework, attending 95%+ of my lectures and tutorials, basically being a model student. I'm sickened when I read about people paying other people to write dissertations for them etc. If you go to university you'll probably find your lecturers are even more vehemently against plaigarism/cheating. I certainly helped/help less able students, but I do that through teaching and making sure they understand how to do something/the concepts using similar questions so they can answer it themselves. I'd never let someone copy my work/answers verbatim, even if it was a best mate/girlfriend. Anyway, all that aside: I wish you luck. I've got an exam tomorrow myself. I'm off for half an hours revision then an early night. Hope you do okay tomorrow. |
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i used to write rich kids papers for them to earn money at the end of semesters...was sweet...i got so much free booze too - and they could give me materials and say "ok, dumb this down so i get a C" hilarious...fucking college... |
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quotfriendsquot |
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"okay, so maybe I deserve an E but do they really care enough about morals to force me to get my E when through their help I could get a C?" first things first - they are not forcing you to get your E. if anyone is forcing you to get an E, it's you. |
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