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Do R&S Records still exist?
 

offline leao from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-12-31 04:24 [#01809307]
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Hi, I tried to contact R&S records about getting festival
rights to an Aphex Twin track from 'Selected Ambient Works
85-92' for a short film I made. However when I emailed R&S
at rs@macbel.be, I received a Delivery Status Notification
(Failure). All the stuff on their site seems v old. Does
anyone know if R&S are still running?

thanks, leo


 

offline nacmat on 2005-12-31 04:27 [#01809308]
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no


 

offline leao from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-12-31 04:32 [#01809310]
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If they don't exist any longer, do you know who owns their
catalogue?

leo


 

offline tridenti from Milano (Italy) on 2005-12-31 04:33 [#01809312]
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Welcome.


 

offline nacmat on 2005-12-31 04:36 [#01809313]
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thats a good question.

I am sure certain people know, here is a list of people who
shall know in this forum:

phobiazero
xceque
earthleakage
dog_belch
jand
vlari

and some others


 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2005-12-31 04:38 [#01809314]
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like the people at rephlex or warp


 

offline nacmat on 2005-12-31 04:39 [#01809315]
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R & S represents the initials of Renaat & Sabine, the couple
that created this quintessential label of the history of the
electronic music. Based in Ghent, Belgium, it held the
privilege to be located on one of the oldest and most
traditional cities of Europe. This city which once used to
have a medieval shape changed very suddenly, at the right
moment when the machines started to dominate the scenario.
Across the streets, you could see a different generation
emerging.
but for the three massive cathedrals (St. Peter, St. Baaf
and the newer one of Gothic design, St. Nicholas, built in
the 13th century), the city passed through a serious
transformation since the beginning of the nineties. At that
time, a new revolution has attained this Belgian community:
the one of the rise of the machines, made mainly through
innovation and experimentation, principles that will always
remain as the main landmarks of R & S Records.
Created by the visionary Renaat Vandepapeliere and his wife
Sabine Maes, R&S recruited almost every single artist of
avant-garde essence from late eighties to the first half of
the nineties. Renaat’s passion for Ferraris has been
notorious, which explained why he initially decided to use
the Ferrari logo for the label, probably paying substantial
royalties for it, from 1988 to 1989.
This happened in the same period of the New Beat era, a
musical styled clearly influenced by EBM and Acid House, but
with lower BPMs (the first releases are precisely New Beat
ones, but soon the sound flavors would change to something
far more technological.
Just to have an idea of the importance of R&S, it was the
label that catapulted careers such as the ones of Joey
Beltram – first of all for having released one of the
classics of the last decade, “Energy Flash”. The same
highlight occurred with Human Resource, the trance duo of
Jam & Spoon (of “Stella”), and also the
ambient-experimental fusion of Richard James’ creative
mind (as Aphex Twin, with tunes like “Digeridoo” and
“Analogue Bubblebath” I and III). The Ne


 

offline nacmat on 2005-12-31 04:40 [#01809316]
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The New Beat formers CJ Bolland (author of “Camargue”,
“Mantra” and “Horsepower”) and Cisco Ferreira (which
was considered alongside Robert Leiner an engineer of
respect) also took their places on the team of the ‘Techno
Island’ – a place that served as a majestic Academy for
futuristic-technological soundscapes, where the R&S studios
were located. On the same historical crew appears Jaydee (of
the effusive breakbeats “Plastic Dreams”), but also Sun
Electric, Mundo Muzique, Afro Trance, among several other
artists. Even Dave Clarke, still as ‘Hardcore’, had some
of his first steps on Renaat’s label, in 1990. On another
hand, other genies have consolidated their excelling journey
on the Giant Horse, like Dave Angel, who released many of
his best Techno tunes during the beginning of the nineties.

It is equally important not to forget that R&S was
responsible for a very close alliance with the legendary
producers from Detroit. The names included Stacey Pullen as
Silent Phase, the impact of Derrick May as “R-Tyme”, the
pioneer Juan Atkins, Carl Craig and even Kevin Saunderson.
Together, this organization gave formidable contributions to
the growing electronic scene of Europe. The eclectic spirit
was so determinative that R&S will remain one of the few
labels to blend rhythms from Techno to Trance, Breakbeats,
the more experimental, or Drum & Bass.



 

offline nacmat on 2005-12-31 04:40 [#01809317]
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In 1989, Renaat’s first big move toward the
ground-breaking sonorities appeared on the compilation “In
Order To Dance”, born to be eternal. Selected during the
New Beat era, it quickly called the attention of the critics
and the intense listeners (through tunes like ‘Ghentlon
– Techno Dream’) for the fact that a new musical style
would soon take its place on the preferences of the
quality-demanding supporters of electronic music: Techno.
About 1991, the second “Order To Dance” was released
with names such as the New Yorker Mundo Muzique, CJ Bolland
and a fellow named ‘Angel’ (who would become a
Techno-reference in the future – Dave Angel). The same
compilation had another issues, and we must not forget “In
Order To Dance 4” which collaborated for taking the
electronic sounds to another level in the European scene.
The fifth volume, of 1994, was the one that Carl Craig
firstly released his “At Les” classic – a cutting-edge
box with the best of the electronic sounds of that time.
Drum & Bass also got its space on the label’s catalogue on
the sixth edition of the In Order To Dance compilation, with
well-known versions for Techno tunes. This happened in
1995-1996 when the R&S command decided to diversify their
releases even further, covering several musical styles, such
as Drum & Bass, jungle, and even Electronic-Rock fusion
ones, but, as strange as it must seems, since then the
Belgian label wouldn’t repeat its highlights acquired
before.
Acting under a plethora of sub-labels, such as All Good
Vinyl, Apollo, Diatomyc, ETC, Generations, Global Cuts,
Labirynt Records, Outrage Recordings, R&S UK, Satori, TZ,
R&S ruled the Universe of electronica for a reasonable
number of years, leaving a legacy that will never be
questioned.



 

offline nacmat on 2005-12-31 04:44 [#01809318]
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also:

r & s


 

offline nacmat on 2005-12-31 04:51 [#01809319]
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I see their last release is from 2001


 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2005-12-31 04:53 [#01809321]
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i imagine you being bored behind your computer right now

correct?

(and yes, R&S was an awesome label)


 

offline nacmat on 2005-12-31 05:04 [#01809323]
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now I am curious

I cant find a place where the end of r&s is explained


 

offline big from lsg on 2005-12-31 05:04 [#01809324]
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can't you phone the bbc or something to ask how they do this
stuff?


 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2005-12-31 05:07 [#01809325]
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my bet: they spend too much money on expanding, while
selling less and less records


 

offline nacmat on 2005-12-31 06:59 [#01809388]
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yeah but the good question is: who owns the rights of all
that music now??


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-12-31 07:10 [#01809408]
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oh, I bought saw on cd not long ago, and it was a press from
pias america or something...


 

offline leao from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-12-31 07:30 [#01809416]
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It says SAW is available on PIAS America here but
there isn't anything about it on the PIAS website.


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2005-12-31 07:48 [#01809427]
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Yeah, I just read Dave Morley himself saying PIAS bought up
the back catalogue of R&S. Someone on here who was on R&S
might know more. I'd contact PIAS UK maybe, I guess they
have the rights to it.


 

offline SPD from United States on 2005-12-31 19:21 [#01809707]
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dohp, i was a little late on this thread.

what i said in the other one was that i thought R&S was
over, but basically my advice would be to just enter your
thing in festivals anyway, because all of these IDM artists
just steal samples all day without having the rights to
them, so you would only be doing things in the spirit of
this music form if you were to follow that philosophy.


 

offline SPD from United States on 2005-12-31 19:24 [#01809708]
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and pretty much, you only really have to worry about paying
someone for something if you intend to make money w/ your
project, which i'll simply assume that you don't.


 

offline SPD from United States on 2005-12-31 19:26 [#01809709]
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and your shit was cool. how did you get the objects to float
above the bowl of water?


 


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