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offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-12-13 12:31 [#01799794]
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feckin IE crap.

page

why the fucking arseporn is there extra space to the left of
these boxes in IE, but not in firefox or opera?

..and why the fuck is background offset different from when
the page is on my hd and when they're online?! I've been
tweaking with this shit for quite a while now, and right now
this page seems to only be the second runner-up (though I'm
lobbying to get them to reconsider, as the first runner-up
is that other page I posted that's just boring).


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-12-13 12:33 [#01799796]
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let me just add: FUCK!


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-12-13 12:35 [#01799798]
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Because IE is a fucking ass ache.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-12-13 12:35 [#01799801]
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IE is the fucking second coming of lucifer! it's worse than
monoid!


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-12-13 12:38 [#01799805]
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seriously, though, could you read through and see if you get
it?

there's just extra space there. if I change the margin to
5px, it becomes 10px in IE and 5px in firefox and opera. it
should be possible to fix this shit, but I have no idea how
right now. I'm blinded by code.


 

offline Exaph from United Kingdom on 2005-12-13 12:43 [#01799811]
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yeah IE is an arse with CSS; i think you need the box model
hack,
should be in here:

css bugs

if not search box model hack

it can deffo be worked around though; you will need to
insert some IE only code into your xhtml doc but its pretty
painless.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-12-13 12:53 [#01799830]
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hmm, I found the hack, I think

/margin after the normal margin...

I can't figure out why it works, but it does!
thanks!

however, does anyone know what causes the difference in
background offset from hd to web (I have compensated for it,
so it isn't visible now, but it's kind of annoying)? the
background is 41px further to the right... this happens in
all browsers...


 

offline xceque on 2005-12-13 12:53 [#01799831]
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Adjust container 3 margin? Only had a quick look. Am
watching the snooker.


 

offline xceque on 2005-12-13 12:54 [#01799834]
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Oh. I guess I didn't read what you said properly.



 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-12-13 12:55 [#01799836]
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yeah, that'd just make everything move too far to the left
in non-IE browsers...


 

offline Exaph from United Kingdom on 2005-12-13 13:03 [#01799840]
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thank fuck the snookers finished - Dragons Den is awesome!
Watch it now!


 

offline Exaph from United Kingdom on 2005-12-13 13:03 [#01799841]
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hd to web?


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-12-13 13:06 [#01799842]
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if anyone has other fixes too, that'd be good.. this one
seems like something that'll only hold for a short while...


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-12-13 13:08 [#01799844]
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yeah, there's a difference from when the file is on my
harddisk and when it's on the server.

on the harddisk, it's ok, but on the server, the background
of #container1 is shifted 43px to the right, so I have to
have a rule for shifting it back 41px for some reason...
I've never encountered this particular problem before;
something being different from hd to web, but.. well, there
it is. could you try and save the page and see what happens?


 

offline Exaph from United Kingdom on 2005-12-13 13:10 [#01799845]
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ah right. seems strange... i take it theres no info on that
link?


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-12-13 13:11 [#01799846]
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well, I don't think so, no, as this doesn't seem to be
browser-dependant.. all browsers get the same difference...
and it's odd if it's the server doing it, as xhtml isn't
server-side...


 

offline xceque on 2005-12-13 13:15 [#01799847]
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I've noticed there's a situation when you're trying to get
two or more images next to each other seamlessly... can't
remember if it's in a div, a table or just plain old img
tags or whatever... but in IE, if you have a CRLF in the
actual text file between two image code parts you get a gap
between images and without the CRLF you get them seamless.
Weird.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-12-13 13:20 [#01799848]
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CRLF?


 

offline xceque on 2005-12-13 13:22 [#01799849]
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carriage return and line feed. end of line characters. at
least in windows.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-12-13 13:24 [#01799852]
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you mean if I have a line break between the first and second
image? or is it some kind of special character?

it should all be quite easy if you use floats...


 

offline xceque on 2005-12-13 13:28 [#01799855]
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Yeah. a line break. shouldn't make any difference since
they're supposed to be ignored, and the same thing doesn't
happen in firefox.

It was just an almost interesting observation I thought I'd
chime in with. Not something I encounter on a regular basis
since I do almost no web programming at all.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-12-13 13:30 [#01799856]
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hehe. yeah, it is interesting.. just shows what asses
microsoft are.

I think I used to work around it with setting font size to 0
before the age of css...


 


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