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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-12-13 12:31 [#01799794]
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feckin IE crap.
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why the fucking arseporn is there extra space to the left of these boxes in IE, but not in firefox or opera?
..and why the fuck is background offset different from when the page is on my hd and when they're online?! I've been tweaking with this shit for quite a while now, and right now this page seems to only be the second runner-up (though I'm lobbying to get them to reconsider, as the first runner-up is that other page I posted that's just boring).
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-12-13 12:33 [#01799796]
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let me just add: FUCK!
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-12-13 12:35 [#01799798]
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Because IE is a fucking ass ache.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-12-13 12:35 [#01799801]
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IE is the fucking second coming of lucifer! it's worse than monoid!
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-12-13 12:38 [#01799805]
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seriously, though, could you read through and see if you get it?
there's just extra space there. if I change the margin to 5px, it becomes 10px in IE and 5px in firefox and opera. it should be possible to fix this shit, but I have no idea how right now. I'm blinded by code.
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-12-13 12:43 [#01799811]
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yeah IE is an arse with CSS; i think you need the box model hack,
should be in here:
css bugs
if not search box model hack
it can deffo be worked around though; you will need to insert some IE only code into your xhtml doc but its pretty painless.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-12-13 12:53 [#01799830]
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hmm, I found the hack, I think
/margin after the normal margin...
I can't figure out why it works, but it does! thanks!
however, does anyone know what causes the difference in background offset from hd to web (I have compensated for it, so it isn't visible now, but it's kind of annoying)? the background is 41px further to the right... this happens in all browsers...
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xceque
on 2005-12-13 12:53 [#01799831]
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Adjust container 3 margin? Only had a quick look. Am watching the snooker.
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xceque
on 2005-12-13 12:54 [#01799834]
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Oh. I guess I didn't read what you said properly.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-12-13 12:55 [#01799836]
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yeah, that'd just make everything move too far to the left in non-IE browsers...
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-12-13 13:03 [#01799840]
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thank fuck the snookers finished - Dragons Den is awesome! Watch it now!
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-12-13 13:03 [#01799841]
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hd to web?
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-12-13 13:06 [#01799842]
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if anyone has other fixes too, that'd be good.. this one seems like something that'll only hold for a short while...
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-12-13 13:08 [#01799844]
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yeah, there's a difference from when the file is on my harddisk and when it's on the server.
on the harddisk, it's ok, but on the server, the background of #container1 is shifted 43px to the right, so I have to have a rule for shifting it back 41px for some reason... I've never encountered this particular problem before; something being different from hd to web, but.. well, there it is. could you try and save the page and see what happens?
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-12-13 13:10 [#01799845]
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ah right. seems strange... i take it theres no info on that link?
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-12-13 13:11 [#01799846]
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well, I don't think so, no, as this doesn't seem to be browser-dependant.. all browsers get the same difference... and it's odd if it's the server doing it, as xhtml isn't server-side...
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xceque
on 2005-12-13 13:15 [#01799847]
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I've noticed there's a situation when you're trying to get two or more images next to each other seamlessly... can't remember if it's in a div, a table or just plain old img tags or whatever... but in IE, if you have a CRLF in the actual text file between two image code parts you get a gap between images and without the CRLF you get them seamless. Weird.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-12-13 13:20 [#01799848]
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CRLF?
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xceque
on 2005-12-13 13:22 [#01799849]
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carriage return and line feed. end of line characters. at least in windows.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-12-13 13:24 [#01799852]
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you mean if I have a line break between the first and second image? or is it some kind of special character?
it should all be quite easy if you use floats...
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xceque
on 2005-12-13 13:28 [#01799855]
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Yeah. a line break. shouldn't make any difference since they're supposed to be ignored, and the same thing doesn't happen in firefox.
It was just an almost interesting observation I thought I'd chime in with. Not something I encounter on a regular basis since I do almost no web programming at all.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-12-13 13:30 [#01799856]
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hehe. yeah, it is interesting.. just shows what asses microsoft are.
I think I used to work around it with setting font size to 0 before the age of css...
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