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Sclah
from Freudian Slipmat on 2005-11-19 11:10 [#01782310]
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Bark Psychosis - Hex Mogwai - Young Team Tortoise - TNT
Haven't heard much GY!BE, but I guess they deserve a place here as well
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-11-19 11:14 [#01782312]
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i dispute all of them, therefore they aren't undisputable
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2005-11-19 11:14 [#01782313]
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Young Team isnt that good
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bob
from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-19 11:20 [#01782316]
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Arab Strap - Philophobia.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-11-19 11:23 [#01782318]
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Labradford - Mi Media Naraja
and here's some music
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bob
from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-19 11:23 [#01782321]
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I dispute that, I flogged my copy because it was ruddish.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-11-19 11:39 [#01782347]
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Definitely Bark Psychosis - Hex
Disco Inferno - D.I. Go Pop / Technicolour Anything by Durruti Column (whether he's post-rock I don't know)
The For Carnation Talk Talk - Spirit of Eden / Laughing Stock My Bloody Valentine - Isn't Anything Butterfly Child - Onomatapeaia (sp?) Ya lo tengo Low Slint
um...
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Combo
from Sex on 2005-11-19 11:39 [#01782349]
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I don't like these band. =|
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Combo
from Sex on 2005-11-19 11:40 [#01782350]
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I was speaking about :
Bark Psychosis Mogwai Tortoise
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bob
from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-19 11:40 [#01782351]
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Yo la tengo rule.
I really like "and then nothing turned itself inside out."
So much that I got a t-shirt.
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Combo
from Sex on 2005-11-19 11:41 [#01782352]
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C'mon some of them aren't post rock ! eg : talk talk
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-11-19 11:43 [#01782353]
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Hey Combo, how about you just miss this one opportunity to display to all and sundry you haven't a clue what you're talking about?
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bob
from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-19 11:45 [#01782357]
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Hood - Cold House Lambchop - Nixon The Sea and Cake - One Bedroom
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-11-19 11:51 [#01782363]
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I can think of lots of groups I would consider either the indirect founders of post rock or that would later be known as Post Rock... but it gets a bit hazy with Post Punk. Say Durutti Column, I'd put him in both camps. Do you recall when they tried to call it Math Rock, holy fuck! Luckily it all went Jazz and then that was the end of the scene, like what happened with Rock, Drum n Bass, electronica and pretty much every other genre.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-11-19 11:53 [#01782364]
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spirit of eden is just totally brilliant. i know i will never tire of listening to it. and eventually i'll probably like laughing stock as much when i mature a bit more.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-11-19 11:58 [#01782369]
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low are superb. their unique style of vocal harmonies and slow grunge guitars are a match made in heaven. their last album was a bit odd, almost "happy" which made uncomfortable listening. but 'things we lost in the fire' and 'trust' are must-listens.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-11-19 11:58 [#01782370]
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But what about but what about but what bout but what about have you got Mark Hollis' solo album?
O.Rang as well, some other members of Talk Talk, I liked some of their material, with Graham Sutton of Bark Psychosis in there somewhere too.
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-11-19 12:00 [#01782374]
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what about a silver mt zion
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2005-11-19 12:01 [#01782376]
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autechre - untilted (tolstoyed, support me here!)
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-11-19 12:03 [#01782381]
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i do have it. in fact i bought it! it's even more difficult on the ear, i'll have to go back to it at some point. all i remember about it is that it's even more sparse than laughing stock, but an obvious continuation into the obscure.
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Combo
from Sex on 2005-11-19 12:16 [#01782406]
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I think I know Talk Talk better than you, stupid.
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slint
on 2005-11-19 12:22 [#01782410]
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gastr del sol-upgrade and afterlife slint-spiderland tortoise-millions now living will never die don caballero-2
these are the best
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-11-19 12:26 [#01782413]
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Please explain why the many people that regard Talk Talk's "Spirit of Eden" and "Laughing Stock" as the corner stones of Post-Rock are all wrong. Use some of the information found in this LAZY_Google search on Talk Talk + Post Rock that returns 176.000 results to back up your argument.
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Combo
from Sex on 2005-11-19 12:36 [#01782422]
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lol
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Combo
from Sex on 2005-11-19 12:41 [#01782428]
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ok, if you want
when you see that Mouse On Mars's Autoditacker is one of the best post rock albums according to allmusic, everything is possible
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Combo
from Sex on 2005-11-19 12:43 [#01782429]
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nevertheless MVB isn't post rock
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furoi
from Udine (Eriko Sato's undies) (Italy) on 2005-11-19 13:10 [#01782455]
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slint - spiderland tortoise - millions now living will never die mogwai - young team june of 44 - four great points rodan - rusty
for example :)
i don't know sigur ros and other recent stuff
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-11-19 13:34 [#01782474]
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ladies and gentlemen we are floating in space :)
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2005-11-19 13:50 [#01782497]
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in terms of what is definitely within the historical bounds of post-rock... um, maybe just TNT and the self-titled the For Carnation album... but when you open up the term as it has been in this thread (and i agree with its opening for the record... because there isn't much to distinguish post-rock proper from a lot of music which wouldn't quite get tagged as such):
Low- I Could Live in Hope Talk Talk- Spirit of Eden and uh... hmm... i dunno there really isn't that many undisputed classics...
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furoi
from Udine (Eriko Sato's undies) (Italy) on 2005-11-19 14:14 [#01782512]
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talk talk such a shame, it's my life?
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-11-19 14:15 [#01782514]
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what about swan ?
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-11-19 14:36 [#01782526]
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yes, them
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-11-19 15:04 [#01782535]
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What's MBV then? As I said, and THE LEGEND OF ALL MUSIC KNOWLEDGE Dead Eight said, to just stick to what historically was labelled "Post Rock" would probably begin and end with Tortoise, maybe Godspeed your whatever. BUT, the fact of the matter is, there are albums that came before the popularity of the term Post Rock that went without any easy labels or genre tagging, and were a direct influence on what would become Post Rock. I would put My Bloody Valentine among them and cite them under Post Rock accordingly, as if you want to call them Shoegazers, I'd have to punch you.
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2005-11-19 15:14 [#01782539]
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i'm kind of not clear on why post rock only starts in the 90s and not in, say for example, the 70s
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-11-19 15:16 [#01782543]
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I think it's, if anything, Post Punk II.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-11-19 15:17 [#01782545]
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Jimi Hendrix I'd stick in post rock.
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2005-11-19 15:18 [#01782547]
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which would mean that the latest wave of (faux) post punk would have to be at least Post Punk III or IV...
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Vin3islih
from United Kingdom on 2005-11-20 09:14 [#01783050]
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Here's five of the best post rock albums imo
Tortoise - Millions Now Living Will Never Die Do Make Say Think - Winter Hymn Secret Hymn Country Hymn GY!BE - Lift Yr Skinny Fists.. Slint - Spiderland Sigur Ros - Takk
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Vin3islih
from United Kingdom on 2005-11-20 09:15 [#01783052]
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..MBV is shoegazer, not post rock..
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paolo_p
from behind on 2005-11-20 09:24 [#01783062]
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slint is correct
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xkejjer
from Malta on 2005-11-20 09:26 [#01783063]
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gybe - lift your skinny fists bla bla bla
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Combo
from Sex on 2005-11-20 09:30 [#01783066]
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I can't believe how people can listen to crapy bands such as Godspeed or Silver Mt Zion ! Their music is just boring bullshit with dull melodies.
Tortoise and Sigrus ros are not a lot better.
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bob
from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-20 09:36 [#01783070]
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Deal with it.
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Vin3islih
from United Kingdom on 2005-11-20 09:55 [#01783082]
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maybe we just have inferior taste to you, yes that must be it.
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Combo
from Sex on 2005-11-20 09:56 [#01783086]
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probably, yeah
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Combo
from Sex on 2005-11-20 09:56 [#01783087]
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but don't be sad, you're forgiven
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bob
from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-20 09:57 [#01783088]
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Either that, or Combo is a brown noser who knows better than everyone else.
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thodob
from Bergen (Norway) on 2005-11-20 10:42 [#01783133]
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salvatore - fresh
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-20 13:36 [#01783287]
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Noway, loserrrr boy. Godspeed are the shittt!
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Combo
from Sex on 2005-11-20 13:45 [#01783290]
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ok, i don't want to spoil your pleasure of listening to crap
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