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             from Freudian Slipmat on 2005-11-19 11:10 [#01782310] Points: 3121 Status: Lurker
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 | Bark Psychosis - Hex Mogwai - Young Team
 Tortoise - TNT
 
 Haven't heard much GY!BE, but I guess they deserve a place
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         |  earthleakage
             from tell the world you're winning on 2005-11-19 11:14 [#01782312] Points: 27859 Status: Regular
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 | i dispute all of them, therefore they aren't undisputable 
 
 
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         |  Dannn_
             from United Kingdom on 2005-11-19 11:14 [#01782313] Points: 7877 Status: Lurker
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 | Young Team isnt that good 
 
 
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         |  bob
             from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-19 11:20 [#01782316] Points: 4669 Status: Lurker
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 | Arab Strap - Philophobia. 
 
 
 
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         |  earthleakage
             from tell the world you're winning on 2005-11-19 11:23 [#01782318] Points: 27859 Status: Regular
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 | Labradford - Mi Media Naraja 
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         |  bob
             from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-19 11:23 [#01782321] Points: 4669 Status: Lurker | Followup to earthleakage: #01782318
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 | I dispute that, I flogged my copy because it was ruddish. 
 
 
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         |  dog_belch
             from Netherlands, The on 2005-11-19 11:39 [#01782347] Points: 15098 Status: Addict | Show recordbag
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 | Definitely Bark Psychosis - Hex 
 Disco Inferno - D.I. Go Pop / Technicolour
 Anything by Durruti Column (whether he's post-rock I don't
 know)
 The For Carnation
 Talk Talk - Spirit of Eden / Laughing Stock
 My Bloody Valentine - Isn't Anything
 Butterfly Child - Onomatapeaia (sp?)
 Ya lo tengo
 Low
 Slint
 
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         |  Combo
             from Sex on 2005-11-19 11:39 [#01782349] Points: 7546 Status: Lurker
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 | I don't like these band. =| 
 
 
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         |  Combo
             from Sex on 2005-11-19 11:40 [#01782350] Points: 7546 Status: Lurker | Followup to Combo: #01782349
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 | I was speaking about : 
 Bark Psychosis
 Mogwai
 Tortoise
 
 
 
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         |  bob
             from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-19 11:40 [#01782351] Points: 4669 Status: Lurker
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 | Yo la tengo rule. 
 I really like "and then nothing turned itself inside out."
 
 So much that I got a t-shirt.
 
 
 
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         |  Combo
             from Sex on 2005-11-19 11:41 [#01782352] Points: 7546 Status: Lurker | Followup to dog_belch: #01782347
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 | C'mon some of them aren't post rock ! eg : talk talk 
 
 
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         |  dog_belch
             from Netherlands, The on 2005-11-19 11:43 [#01782353] Points: 15098 Status: Addict | Followup to Combo: #01782352 | Show recordbag
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 | Hey Combo, how about you just miss this one opportunity to display to all and sundry you haven't a clue what you're
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         |  bob
             from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-19 11:45 [#01782357] Points: 4669 Status: Lurker
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 | Hood - Cold House Lambchop - Nixon
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         |  dog_belch
             from Netherlands, The on 2005-11-19 11:51 [#01782363] Points: 15098 Status: Addict | Show recordbag
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 | I can think of lots of groups I would consider either the indirect founders of post rock or that would later be known
 as Post Rock... but it gets a bit hazy with Post Punk. Say
 Durutti Column, I'd put him in both camps. Do you recall
 when they tried to call it Math Rock, holy fuck! Luckily it
 all went Jazz and then that was the end of the scene, like
 what happened with Rock, Drum n Bass, electronica and pretty
 much every other genre.
 
 
 
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         |  earthleakage
             from tell the world you're winning on 2005-11-19 11:53 [#01782364] Points: 27859 Status: Regular
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 | spirit of eden is just totally brilliant. i know i will never tire of listening to it. and eventually i'll probably
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             from tell the world you're winning on 2005-11-19 11:58 [#01782369] Points: 27859 Status: Regular
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 | low are superb. their unique style of vocal harmonies and slow grunge guitars are a match made in heaven. their last
 album was a bit odd, almost "happy" which made uncomfortable
 listening. but 'things we lost in the fire' and 'trust' are
 must-listens.
 
 
 
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         |  dog_belch
             from Netherlands, The on 2005-11-19 11:58 [#01782370] Points: 15098 Status: Addict | Followup to earthleakage: #01782364 | Show recordbag
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 | But what about but what about but what bout but what about have you got Mark Hollis' solo album?
 
 O.Rang as well, some other members of Talk Talk, I liked
 some of their material, with Graham Sutton of Bark Psychosis
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         |  Taffmonster
             from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-11-19 12:00 [#01782374] Points: 6196 Status: Lurker
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 | what about a silver mt zion 
 
 
 
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         |  goDel
             from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2005-11-19 12:01 [#01782376] Points: 10240 Status: Regular
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 | autechre - untilted (tolstoyed, support me here!) 
 
 
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             from tell the world you're winning on 2005-11-19 12:03 [#01782381] Points: 27859 Status: Regular | Followup to dog_belch: #01782370
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 | i do have it. in fact i bought it! it's even more difficult on the ear, i'll have to go back to it at some point. all i
 remember about it is that it's even more sparse than
 laughing stock, but an obvious continuation into the
 obscure.
 
 
 
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         |  Combo
             from Sex on 2005-11-19 12:16 [#01782406] Points: 7546 Status: Lurker | Followup to dog_belch: #01782353
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 | I think I know Talk Talk better than you, stupid. 
 
 
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         |  slint
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 | gastr del sol-upgrade and afterlife slint-spiderland
 tortoise-millions now living will never die
 don caballero-2
 
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         |  dog_belch
             from Netherlands, The on 2005-11-19 12:26 [#01782413] Points: 15098 Status: Addict | Followup to Combo: #01782406 | Show recordbag
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 | Please explain why the many people that regard Talk Talk's "Spirit of Eden" and "Laughing Stock" as the corner stones
 of Post-Rock are all wrong. Use some of the information
 found in this LAZY_Google search on Talk Talk + Post
 Rock that returns 176.000 results to back up your
 argument.
 
 
 
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         |  Combo
             from Sex on 2005-11-19 12:36 [#01782422] Points: 7546 Status: Lurker | Followup to dog_belch: #01782413
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 | lol 
 
 
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         |  Combo
             from Sex on 2005-11-19 12:41 [#01782428] Points: 7546 Status: Lurker | Followup to dog_belch: #01782413
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 | ok, if you want 
 when you see that Mouse On Mars's Autoditacker is one of the
 best post rock albums according to allmusic, everything is
 possible
 
 
 
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         |  Combo
             from Sex on 2005-11-19 12:43 [#01782429] Points: 7546 Status: Lurker
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 | nevertheless MVB isn't post rock 
 
 
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         |  furoi
             from Udine (Eriko Sato's undies) (Italy) on 2005-11-19 13:10 [#01782455] Points: 1706 Status: Lurker
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 | slint - spiderland tortoise - millions now living will never die
 mogwai - young team
 june of 44 - four great points
 rodan - rusty
 
 for example :)
 
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         |  earthleakage
             from tell the world you're winning on 2005-11-19 13:34 [#01782474] Points: 27859 Status: Regular
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 | ladies and gentlemen we are floating in space :) 
 
 
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         |  DeadEight
             from vancouver (Canada) on 2005-11-19 13:50 [#01782497] Points: 5437 Status: Regular
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 | in terms of what is definitely within the historical bounds of post-rock... um, maybe just TNT and the self-titled the
 For Carnation album... but when you open up the term as it
 has been in this thread (and i agree with its opening for
 the record... because there isn't much to distinguish
 post-rock proper from a lot of music which wouldn't quite
 get tagged as such):
 
 Low- I Could Live in Hope
 Talk Talk- Spirit of Eden
 and uh... hmm... i dunno there really isn't that many
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         |  furoi
             from Udine (Eriko Sato's undies) (Italy) on 2005-11-19 14:14 [#01782512] Points: 1706 Status: Lurker
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 | talk talk such a shame, it's my life? 
 
 
 
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         |  Taffmonster
             from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-11-19 14:15 [#01782514] Points: 6196 Status: Lurker
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 | what about swan ? 
 
 
 
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         |  earthleakage
             from tell the world you're winning on 2005-11-19 14:36 [#01782526] Points: 27859 Status: Regular | Followup to furoi: #01782512
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 | yes, them 
 
 
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         |  dog_belch
             from Netherlands, The on 2005-11-19 15:04 [#01782535] Points: 15098 Status: Addict | Followup to Combo: #01782429 | Show recordbag
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 | What's MBV then? As I said, and THE LEGEND OF ALL MUSIC KNOWLEDGE Dead Eight said, to just stick to what
 historically was labelled "Post Rock" would probably begin
 and end with Tortoise, maybe Godspeed your whatever. BUT,
 the fact of the matter is, there are albums that came before
 the popularity of the term Post Rock that went without any
 easy labels or genre tagging, and were a direct influence on
 what would become Post Rock. I would put My Bloody Valentine
 among them and cite them under Post Rock accordingly, as if
 you want to call them Shoegazers, I'd have to punch you.
 
 
 
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         |  DeadEight
             from vancouver (Canada) on 2005-11-19 15:14 [#01782539] Points: 5437 Status: Regular
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 | i'm kind of not clear on why post rock only starts in the 90s and not in, say for example, the 70s
 
 
 
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         |  dog_belch
             from Netherlands, The on 2005-11-19 15:16 [#01782543] Points: 15098 Status: Addict | Show recordbag
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 | I think it's, if anything, Post Punk II. 
 
 
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         |  dog_belch
             from Netherlands, The on 2005-11-19 15:17 [#01782545] Points: 15098 Status: Addict | Show recordbag
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 | Jimi Hendrix I'd stick in post rock. 
 
 
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         |  DeadEight
             from vancouver (Canada) on 2005-11-19 15:18 [#01782547] Points: 5437 Status: Regular
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 | which would mean that the latest wave of (faux) post punk would have to be at least Post Punk III or IV...
 
 
 
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         |  Vin3islih
             from United Kingdom on 2005-11-20 09:14 [#01783050] Points: 1066 Status: Regular
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 | Here's five of the best post rock albums imo 
 Tortoise - Millions Now Living Will Never Die
 Do Make Say Think - Winter Hymn Secret Hymn Country Hymn
 GY!BE - Lift Yr Skinny Fists..
 Slint - Spiderland
 Sigur Ros - Takk
 
 
 
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         |  Vin3islih
             from United Kingdom on 2005-11-20 09:15 [#01783052] Points: 1066 Status: Regular | Followup to dog_belch: #01782535
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 | ..MBV is shoegazer, not post rock.. 
 
 
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             from behind on 2005-11-20 09:24 [#01783062] Points: 122 Status: Regular
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 | slint is correct 
 
 
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             from Malta on 2005-11-20 09:26 [#01783063] Points: 274 Status: Lurker
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 | gybe - lift your skinny fists bla bla bla 
 
 
 
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         |  Combo
             from Sex on 2005-11-20 09:30 [#01783066] Points: 7546 Status: Lurker
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 | I can't believe how people can listen to crapy bands such as Godspeed or Silver Mt Zion ! Their music is just boring
 bullshit with dull melodies.
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         |  bob
             from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-20 09:36 [#01783070] Points: 4669 Status: Lurker | Followup to Combo: #01783066
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 | Deal with it. 
 
 
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         |  Vin3islih
             from United Kingdom on 2005-11-20 09:55 [#01783082] Points: 1066 Status: Regular | Followup to Combo: #01783066
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 | maybe we just have inferior taste to you, yes that must be it.
 
 
 
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 | probably, yeah 
 
 
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 | but don't be sad, you're forgiven 
 
 
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         |  bob
             from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-20 09:57 [#01783088] Points: 4669 Status: Lurker | Followup to Vin3islih: #01783082
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 | Either that, or Combo is a brown noser who knows better than everyone else.
 
 
 
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         |  thodob
             from Bergen (Norway) on 2005-11-20 10:42 [#01783133] Points: 2143 Status: Lurker
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 | salvatore - fresh 
 
 
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             from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-20 13:36 [#01783287] Points: 3447 Status: Lurker | Followup to Combo: #01783066
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 | Noway, loserrrr boy. Godspeed are the shittt! 
 
 
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             from Sex on 2005-11-20 13:45 [#01783290] Points: 7546 Status: Lurker | Followup to clint: #01783287
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 | ok, i don't want to spoil your pleasure of listening to crap 
 
 
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