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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-15 14:05 [#01778743]
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Hi, can't remember much about it, other than its quite small and is supposed to give more expensive amps a run for their money... does anyone know what I'm talking about? I can't remember the name for shit, and I'm looking for something decent.
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-15 14:59 [#01778767]
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giginger, do you remember?
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bob
from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-15 15:07 [#01778770]
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Just go down Richer Sounds and spend as much as you can afford. You can't really go wrong with their prices.....
LOOK HERE, INNIT
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-15 15:12 [#01778774]
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Yeah I have one at the moment from Richer Sounds, its okay, but I think its far too powerful for my bedroom, so I'm looking to downgrade so to speak.
I've found the thread I was looking for though.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-15 15:16 [#01778778]
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-15 15:19 [#01778780]
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bitch :P
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2005-11-15 15:22 [#01778781]
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poor boy. have a lolly
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-15 15:23 [#01778782]
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I'll have that on the plane back to Rome.
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2005-11-15 15:24 [#01778783]
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oh yeah, how was your weekend?
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-15 15:25 [#01778784]
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So did you ever get this bad boy GG? It looks excellent.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-15 15:26 [#01778785]
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Not bad mate. I'll post some pics soon :)
Clint: I didn't because it was sold out when I went to order it :(
I'll hopefully get one soon.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-11-15 15:58 [#01778800]
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After having used mine for around 60 hours now, I can re-iterate that it is bloody brilliant for the price. All CDs get played on it and tomorrow the turntables will be hooked up too.
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-15 16:03 [#01778804]
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I am so tempted to sell my £140 huge ass amp for one of these... I never turn it up past 1/4. The only thing is, I enjoy headphone listening, but maybe I could get a seperate headphone amp. Ooooh Ceri you get me all hot and excited. What speakers do you use man?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-11-15 16:19 [#01778828]
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"What speakers do you use man?"
Really crap battered ones (can't remember the brand, but I'd never heard of them before I bought them for £10 in a pawn shop). What is insane is that the sound quality is still great, even with them as the obvious bottleneck in the signal chain. I'm wondering what it'll be like with a decent pair of 4 ohm speakers on it...
Re: Headphone listening. I've been reading about people modding T-amps (putting decent sized gold connectors in, better volume control, etc) and depending on how handy you are with a soldering iron, you might be able to put a headphone connector on one. Also, what's the reasoning behind your listening to headphones rather than speakers? I used to a lot, but the main reasons were sound quality and not annoying flatmates. As the sound quality on these is so good, you don't need it up very loud to hear everything and it isn't one of those systems where the sound really penetrates too powerfully through walls etc. (so it sounds like a LP filter downstairs)
The drive of an amp like this (and part of the reason I like the Bose home stuff so much for the price) is ideal for a home environment. There is no point in having an amp you only turn up to 1.5/10 (and it won't sound good either - most amps sound best when they're actually being used a fair way past 50%), apart from once or twice to show friends what it can do. Most proper audiophile systems are listened to at similar volumes to those the T-amp can put out without distorting. I'm aiming to get new speakers for the t-amp then relegate my old system (which, like yours, is too loud for the house really and it's mono- should really be used in small pubs etc.) to just for use for parties/gigging.
I just laugh when people have 3KW rigs in their house, as I know they will never ever hear them at their best, unless it is shortly followed by the police kicking the door down and conviscating it.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-11-15 16:21 [#01778831]
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I'd advise against that if all he wants is home listening. Sure, go there for the speakers, but this £20 amp sounds better than my mate's £300 Marantz one.
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-15 16:48 [#01778863]
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Nice post man, very grateful indeed. I agree very much about not getting the best from a louder system, at low volumes I feel this amp is not far different from the soundcard and pc speakers that it replaced. It sounds beefier and bassier at higher volumes, but as you say, this is totally unpractical for 98% of listening. I don't use the remote or the treble/bass, I guess the two things I'd miss would be the headphones socket and the input selector. I enjoy headphone listening as I live in quite a busy area so traffic often interferes with speaker listening, but mostly because I listen quite late at night when my family are asleep. I'm looking into getting a small headphone amp with a 'audio thru' channel if you will, ie it relays the input to an external amp as well as to the headphones. Whether this exists or not, I don't know, but its not an issue at the moment, for somehting this price.
Out of interest, what voltage adaptor do you use to power it?
Anyway - just placed an order on ebay so no going back. £31.97 including insured air mail - jeez, if this thing sounds half as good as my current setup its a steal. So giginger, no excuses, there are about 3 different dealers on ebay at the moment!
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-15 16:59 [#01778869]
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I forgot to say that I also own a very nice pair of AKG K240s, which kick ass sound quality wise... I can't imagine owning a different pair.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-11-16 04:57 [#01779065]
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Adaptor I'm running is a cheap (£4) multi-adaptor, set to 12V. A few people who take these things very seriously indeed have attached it to PSUs costing more than the amp, but with the current sound quality bottleneck that is my speakers, such things wouldn't make much of a difference.
I've heard conflicting reports as to whether battery/mains sound better (I've not tried batteries, but I suspect there's probably not much in it)
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-16 16:15 [#01779783]
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I can't waitttt :)
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-16 17:10 [#01779805]
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Oh look what I just found - the new version, for $100 more.
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I'll see how the cheap one squares up first.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2005-11-16 17:19 [#01779806]
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probably wouldn't work to drive 280ohm headphones? (if someone has modded them to have a headphone jack, I wouldn't want to try this myself) i bet it would drive some grados nicely
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-22 12:30 [#01784950]
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Oh dear...
Well it came today. Tried it with an adaptor I had lying around. It lit up, but after a few seconds I noticed a slight burning smell. So i replaced the adaptor with another one, it lit up, no smell. I hooked everything up, but no sound at all.
Anyway, whilst examining it, I noticed a rattling sound. I opened the chassis up, and found a rather large microchip had detatched. So, no dice. Anyone know anything about electronics? Could this be the result of using a bad power supply? I don't know if it was detatched before or not.
I'm sad!
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from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2005-11-22 12:44 [#01784973]
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Did you check to see if the adapter had the correct specifications or did you just plug in a random extra adapter that you had?
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2005-11-22 12:46 [#01784975]
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haha! 'plug fits, should work!'
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-22 12:49 [#01784981]
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Well there's not much in the way of specifications in the literature. It says DC12V or 14V. I used a 13.5V. I can't see how the wrong power could detatch a microchip clean off, though - there's no marks or anything.
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-22 12:52 [#01784986]
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Be silent.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2005-11-22 13:05 [#01785007]
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Are there any affordable, efficient, full-range speakers that would work good with these? or maybe with an amp for each speaker?
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from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2005-11-22 13:08 [#01785012]
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Does the chip that broke off look like this?
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-22 13:09 [#01785013]
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That's the one! :(
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2005-11-22 13:12 [#01785016]
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That's like the main processor or something.
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-22 13:21 [#01785029]
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I've resigned myself to the fact that I'm not going to fix it. I just hope the guy will replace it.
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-22 16:17 [#01785044]
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I've ordered another one now.
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