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yes, I used to donate too... I sometimes had no money and other times I had plenty, now I could... but I want to see the site done first anyway, I respect your view, also respect all people donating, as it is a volunteer option also I like this place, and many times I thanked phobia for the hard work... now I just need something to see with my eyes |
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I just think this place was said to be free, and now I got the impression that phobia is making money out of it nacmat: you're obviously not getting it... this place IS free... and how can you actually believe i'm making money out of this place? are you jealous because i have received enough donations to cover the server expenses for august-november? what about the thousands of bucks i've spent on the site before that? i have friends that keep saying i'm a fool that doesn't take the oppurtunity to make big bucks considering there are 60-70 thousands of visitors month after month... it's kinda silly to discuss this anyway.. because you are not getting it. try to take a step back and get the whole picture. just try it. |
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I have stepped back and seen the whole picture. You are right. No criticism is allowed. Pay your money and shut up, nacmat. |
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not even close........ take another step... |
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no, I am not jealous, I earn a good money as an architect. also I know you are honest. its just that 3 years sounds like enough time imo to have a proper site up. this is not an anti-phobia attitude, I may have talked too much in this thread... my opinion has been made clear. I just wish to see xltronic in its full splendor very soon, then I will happily help AGAIN |
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it's kinda silly to discuss this anyway.. maybe you should try to look at it from his perspective phobia... I'm sure Nacmat does not want to do any harm, but his point of view is fair enough after three years. Can't you really see why he's thinking like this? I'm also disappointed after all the promises, I'm really sorry to say that. I (and lots of people) don't visit this place to chat with the regulars about nothing, but just for a music related website, to discover great music. (However, the discography was a great start.) I understand time is limited, but you can't rectify three years of waiting to your visitors. At least, in my opinion. It's great to see a lot of members are willing to pay for xltronic, but you can at least respect the others who would like to see a full functional website about electronic music, instead of a messageboard with lots of crap on it. Apparently some people want to donate to help building a cool website. Others want to pay to be able to chat with each other... That's fine, isn't it? |
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You've got a point there, like I understand nacmat in a way as well. But for me this has nothing to do with the financial support to keep the mb up and running. Phobiazero put a lot of money, time and effort over the years to keep this site up and running so a little bit of money is a gesture of friendliness towards him to keep xltronic alive. (it's only $10 a year) |
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totally agree... its a friendly gesture. its just that over the years I got tired of promises about the "upcoming soon" site, so I dont feel like having that friendly gesture anymore (by the moment) |
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Leftfield took five years to make rythmn and stealth and that was a pile of shite. |
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well, nobody is as frustrated as I am about not having the "proper" site online. that's why we're working on xltronic v2. but both tunemx and I have families, houses and are working full-time. i'm also running a few other websites, which have been finished since xltronic was launched. i'm also heavily dependant on tunemx's presence while building the website, and he has no internet at home....... he's still waiting for his broadband to get delivered. nacmat, what have you accomplished yourself during these three years? perhaps you should value what you've received from xltronic..... messageboard, exclusive radioshows and news, the discography.... would the case have been different if we just had a proper navigation on top? or what exactly are you missing? however, the donations are welcome, I won't tell anyone to NOT donate because we're missing some pages. the monthly hosting fee are still reoccuring whether xlt v2 is here or not. |
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more stuff coming soon people... |
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there are constantly new stuff coming up... |
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"nacmat, what have you accomplished yourself during these three years?" _________________________________________________ you mean in my real life?: finish my degree get a job with one of my favourite spanish architects buy a house with my girlfriend (nothing special really, things that many people already had at my age... I was late, but I got there ...precisely in these three years) |
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Nacmat used to be the most subservient little lapdog that ever graced xltronic. Now he is its biggest critic. I think he may have a point. FUCKING GET IN THERE BUDDY! FIGHT THE POWER! |
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(i've banned members much nicer than you) |
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I can understand banning people if they are racist, bigoted or offensive, but all i am doing is taking a slightly different point of view. Should I be banned for having a point of view that disagrees with yours? I am sure it does cost money to host the site. I host a site. Costs me about £50 a year. Might not be as big or as fancy as yours but costs a hell of a lot less than £1200 a year. £1200 a year! That's a hell of a lot of money to pay to host a web-site. I would try and shop around and get a cheaper deal if I were you. |
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could be usd |
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is it a pornsite? |
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i have no money. lol |
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Bill: Yet again your response is based on lack of knowledge. You have no idea about the requirements of the server and what is needed to host 2 million db entries and all the media-files..... We would have to cut off a lot of features and information if we'd go for an "ordinary" shared webshosting package.... (Yes, watmm is doing that as we speak, but that is not really what Joyrex wants, he had financial and technical problems with his dedicated server, so he's forced to switch to shared webhosting.) $149 per month for our new setup is really cheap and a great deal for the enhanced performance. |
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Enhanced performance? |
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that's exactly what i mean..... |
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I don't think he meant anything bad by saying "enhanced performance?" (well maybe he did but lets give him the benefit of the doubt) it's just that, being the developer, there are probably lots of things blatantly noticed by you that sometimes get missed by the users.... This site, for example, has run at seemingly the exact same speed for me for the last couple of years, though I'm sure you've been doing plenty to streamline and advance the webpage. |
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maybe you noticed the site went down every time someone performed a search on the old server..... also, xlt v2 (the main reason why we upgraded the server), is much more cpu and memory demanding..... we also appreciate the extra storage space (80 Gb) on the new server which allows us to offer each premium member (at least) 50 Mb of mp3 storage. |
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maybe bill is on dial up anyway |
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hasn't the site gotten lighter when you're doing it in xhtml with layers for design instead of tables? |
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yeah, the code will be optimized due to xhtml/css...... so performance will be splendid.... |
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hmm.. nope I didn't notice that, but thats exactly the kind of thing I'm talking about... I mean, I may have noticed the site crash, but I wouldn't be able to make the connection that it was because someone used the old search function. So to me the problem went unnoticed but to you it was probably quite a headdache. I just meant to say that even if things don't appear different, I know that you are constantly making XLT better. :) |
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I thought it was a pretty well-known thing...... ? |
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well, it apparently isn't well known to some of the posters in this thread..... |
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even keeping a simple forum running is a lot of work.. these places don't run themselves.. although i know it can look that way (and that's the way it should look, if the admin is doing their job right). |
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ASSTEXT.py (A) l o t o f t h e p e o p l e w h o h a v e d o n a t e d t o t h e (s) i t e r e a l l y d o n ' t c a r e t h a t m u c h a b o u t a l l t h e (s) u p p o s e d l y u p c o m i n g e x t r (A) c o n t e n t . (s) u r e , i t ' l l b e n i c e w h e n i t ' (s) t h e r e , b u t i t ' s n o t t h e m (A) i n r e a (s) o n f o r c o m i n g h e r e . t h e y d o n a t e b e c a u (s) e t h e y e n j o y v i s i t i n g t h i s m e s s (A) g e b o a r d , t o t a l k t o t h e p e o p l e h e r e . t h e y a l (s) o u n d e r (s) t (A) n d t h a t a (s) i t e l i k e t h i (s) w i l l c o s t m o n e y t o k e e p u p (A) n d r u n n i n g . y o u a r e f r e e t o d o n a t e o r n o t , i t ' (s) y o u r c h o i c e - b u t i t d o e (s) s e e m k i n d o f m e (A) n - (s) p i r i t e d t o a (s) k o t h e r p e o p l e n o t t o d o n (A) t e . |
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zephyr twin has a good point. It may be 'advanced' for phobia, it's not really advanced to me. For me it's just a messageboard with a non-complete discography. I remember phobia upgrading the server months ago. I didn't notice a thing! It's still the same to me... even keeping a simple forum running is a lot of work.. you say so chaosmachine.... i think you're not doing a good job if it costs you lots of work to run a simple forum. I don't think it's about the donations at all, it's about promises where these donations were based on for some of us. Why do we care if you look at it differently? It's just like that. Well, people are free to donate, there you go. Let's leave it there. |
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did you actually read my messages? |
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word to your last paragraph |
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For me it's just a messageboard with a non-complete discography I don't think so, look the "discography updates" thread and try to notice how the mods/admins are working hard on it - Also it has lots of excellent scans and MANY releases. I remember phobia upgrading the server months ago. I didn't notice a thing! It's still the same to me... Have you noticed that the search function is up? Have you read what Phobia wrote? Well, if not do it now: also, xlt v2 (the main reason why we upgraded the server), is much more cpu and memory demanding..... we also appreciate the extra storage space (80 Gb) on the new server which allows us to offer each premium member (at least) 50 Mb of mp3 storage. You have no idea about the requirements of the server and what is needed to host 2 million db entries and all the media-files..... We would have to cut off a lot of features and information if we'd go for an "ordinary" shared webshosting package.... |
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Fucking hell. Donations are covered until almost February! 270! |
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Fucking hell. Donations are covered until almost February! 270! |
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at least Nov and Dec!!!!! |
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the donation bars gonna bust.awesome |
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bill_hicks + impakt = New Server :) |
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yeah its totally awesome |
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it wasnt bill...... |
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YES SIR! I WILL READ IT NOW! |
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