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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-10-14 11:48 [#01749915]
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..or at least "intentional" aestethics. a person can find something beautiful in anything, but I'm more thinking the form vs function thing (but not exactly that either) from the creators side.. like architecture.. it isn't NECESSARY for the architect to do anything "artistic" with what he's building; he could just do what works, calculate stuff here and there and construct something that will "do the job." same goes for for example (informational) web pages, industrial design (if I understand the concept correctly) and interior design (in a broader sense.. not only normal interior like chairs and tables, but also cups, cutlery and so-on).. there are of course other fields, but that's just an example...
anyway, my question is something like: "do you think people who do stuff like this should make things that may be aestethically pleasing and experiment with form, sometimes at the cost of some functionality (like creating a mono radio because it looks better or making uneven and kind of random stair-steps on a building, making them harder to walk on)?"
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-14 11:53 [#01749916]
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Aesthetics is the word mate :P
Aesthetics play quite an important part in everything. It's hard to not judge things on how they look to you.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-10-14 12:04 [#01749921]
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ah.. I think I kind of knew that, but.. my bad then...
yeah, as I said, everyone can find aesthetics in stuff, what I'm asking is if people think it should be taken into consideration by the creator upon the creation of the thing...
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hma
from real life on 2005-10-14 13:42 [#01749982]
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Aesthetics is when both your avatars (post 1&3) don`t spin at the same time. probably impossible.
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hooked
from United States on 2005-10-14 17:28 [#01750183]
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that's an interesting question -- it made me think about all the things i see every day with "artistic" embelishments.
to answer the question -- aesthetics should be taken into account when composing something if that (aesthetics) is the primary reason for the creation. so, if you have a spoon and your say, "well, lets add something pretty to the spoon," -- it's no good. but if your approach is "i am going to create something beautiful" and it turns out to be a spoon -- then you have something. all that other shit is tacky.
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hooked
from United States on 2005-10-14 17:29 [#01750185]
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oh, i forgot to add -- my response is valid (to me) if the question is function vs aesthetics, but not necessarily valid in a more general sense.
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zazen
on 2005-10-14 19:03 [#01750217]
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I read someone somewhere saying that designed-in aesthetics have become too prevalent now, and hence design has become visual pollution
sums it up for me
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2005-10-14 19:09 [#01750222]
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like, bloody Apple computers making it so like now even my fucking toaster has to be all red and like have a purple knob that pops up and plays this "ding" like you was entering an old timey candy shop.
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hobbes
from age on 2005-10-14 19:10 [#01750224]
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To have both is actually possible. As you say it's relative.
As for visual pollution, yup, we're infested by it. But it's more the result of the fact too many people are into DIY "graphic design", mostly because it's now very easy to do things that were rather hard to master before .. I don't think it's so much the result of people trying to be functional...though i'm sure they think they are.
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hobbes
from age on 2005-10-14 19:12 [#01750226]
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All that just to say so many people are pretentious and tasteless.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2005-10-14 19:12 [#01750227]
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To be honest I'm turned off by a lot of this modern or postmodern architecture because it's form doesn't seem to be related in any way to function. I mean, you might as well just make a sculpture.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2005-10-14 19:17 [#01750229]
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best example of form at the cost of function is that fucking round MAC mouse. ugg gawd. i hate that fucking thing.
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hobbes
from age on 2005-10-14 19:25 [#01750235]
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When i recieve the handmade table i ordered and get a lump of shit with a flag stuck in it, i know it's not a table.
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