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Xeron
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-12 06:10 [#01747499]
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Well seeing as we all love this site. I was thinking maybe you (Phobiazero) should reduce the reward for donating $10 to the board to something more like 6 months premium membership (thus we would have to pay $20 for a year¡¦s membership), thus taking off some of the financial burden and perhaps putting XLT on the road to a profitable website. It makes financial sense; Xltronic.com isn¡¦t a charity; and I am sure most of the current premium members wouldn¡¦t mind paying twice in the year (I wouldn¡¦t), and because you would have twice the income you can in turn make XLT even better for every one else¡K¡K.¡K¡K.especially the premium members ƒº.
Or perhaps you could create a sort of reward system where you effectively buy (ugly word)¡K..hmm¡K. contribute sufficiently to earn the various ¡§rights¡¨. For example:
$10 earns you picture posting abilities for a year. $15 dollars earns you the pic posting plus a personal file ie blog.
Etc. Well that¡¦s my two cents worth, feel free to slap me with a witty yet blunt reply, I¡¦m already expecting it from qrter and dog_bech and giginger and¡K¡K.the list is endless.
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-12 06:12 [#01747504]
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iKiK?
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2005-10-12 06:12 [#01747505]
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you can donate as much as you want anytime
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oyvinto
on 2005-10-12 06:13 [#01747506]
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i agree, if we can get rid of the banners
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-10-12 06:16 [#01747508]
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stop this brown-nosing at once
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-10-12 06:25 [#01747513]
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I wouldn't mind, but I personally probably wouldn't be able to pay any more than once a year (or less) the way it is now, but of course, if people can and want to pay, they should be allowed to.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-12 06:46 [#01747534]
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$10 is reasonable. Some of us pay more than that because we want to and I know of 1 member who pays a certain amount every month. The past few months Phob has had the hosting paid and I think that's great. I hope it continues on every month.
I don't see why there should be an increase in the cost though. Just seems stupid really.
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obara
from Utrecht on 2005-10-12 06:49 [#01747541]
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Just anything to make some people believe xlt is about music not money.
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-10-12 06:50 [#01747543]
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i agree i just donated (finally ahd enough spare cash) and ill donate again in a month or two when i can afford it, but its ncie cos i wont be doing it for privs it'll just be a bit more to help
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-12 06:51 [#01747545]
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Good idea! I also think the Beeb licence fee should go up! And the poll tax! And the price of hookers!
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DeleriousWeasel
from Guam on 2005-10-12 06:55 [#01747550]
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sounds pretty draconian Xeron.
If people wish to donate more they can, no point forcing people. Just because you're happy to and can afford it doesn't mean everyone else can.
Donate more yourself and stop being totalitarian.
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tridenti
from Milano (Italy) on 2005-10-12 06:59 [#01747561]
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I'm agree 100% with giginger. $10 is ok. And I also think $100 per month are enough.
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yann_g
from now on 2005-10-12 07:27 [#01747598]
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i think all this premium membership thing is negative. it makes money-based differences between users. some merchandising would be a better thing imo (that said i have no idea if it would bring enough money). was it tried already?
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-10-12 07:47 [#01747610]
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Oh don't be absurd. The site costs money to maintain, it's not a commercial enterprise, it survives on the goodwill of the owner and the members. You're not forced to pay to use it, but those who appreciate the board like to contribute to keep it going, and donations are the simplest and most effective form of doing that.
As for rivalry, I think it probably only grates when someone uses the board a lot, doesn't add much of value to the board just witless AND hasn't donated (I'm not talking about anyone specifically here).
I mean, it's not my site, this is just my view from afar.
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yann_g
from now on 2005-10-12 07:55 [#01747613]
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i'm wondering if you actually read my post.
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DeleriousWeasel
from Guam on 2005-10-12 07:57 [#01747614]
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I wouldn't have posted that if I were you...
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-10-12 08:01 [#01747616]
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the site costs money.
phobia can't pay for it all himself.
phobia asks for contributions and as a sign of goodwill offers a few small features for the people that do decide to give some money - perhaps as an incentive, perhaps as a small form of thanks.
phobia already is busy setting up merchandise, besides the premium membership thing.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-10-12 08:03 [#01747618]
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what's your share?
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-10-12 08:03 [#01747619]
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I did, what money based differences? Do you mean if you simply cannot pay then you're denied Premium features?
As for merchandise, I don't think it would sustain the site, I think it's ok for one-off things like the slipmats, nice idea, but for relying on that to keep the site going I don't believe, at this stage, is a viable option.
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yann_g
from now on 2005-10-12 08:04 [#01747621]
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i'm too funky, that's why.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-10-12 08:04 [#01747622]
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my what?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-10-12 08:05 [#01747623]
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how many bonbons do you get? nevermind.
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yann_g
from now on 2005-10-12 08:09 [#01747628]
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ability to post pics for instance. i'm not saying it's a bad thing, i'm saying it has negative consequences and that maybe there are better ways to get money from the users. it's nothing to overreact about anyway. i have no idea what's best because i have no idea how much the site costs, just giving my two pence... (no pun intended)
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-10-12 08:10 [#01747629]
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..and the negative consequences are..?
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Xeron
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-12 08:13 [#01747633]
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You're all looking at it from the point of view that the period of "premium membership" is an unchangable constant ie.1 year. I'm merely looking at it from the other angle, $10 would get you half a year's membership. If you can't or don't want to pay and extra $10 dollars for the rest of the year then you don't have to. Things would stay as they are ie. that is $10 dollars is the constant (only the reward would be less).
Also this would placate yann_g's post as for half of the year (after reading the majority of the replies in this thread) there would be less premium members at any one time.
And people who say "people should only have to donate only if they want to" haven't read my initial post, people can still remain non-premium members for free in the XLT i'm advocating.
Also whoever said XLT isn't about money, well it isn't a charity either. Lets say for instance the price of up-keep increases astronomically then it's bye bye XLT. If we paid a little extra there would be scope for phobiazero to create a sort of XLT contingency fund, for when times are hard.
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Xeron
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-12 08:20 [#01747642]
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tridenti- you didn't pay for your membership if I remeber correctly. Now before you think this is a "jab" at you, when saying somthing remeber to cover your retreat (to put it metaphorically.)
Didn't Ecadniarb pay your year's mebership?
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yann_g
from now on 2005-10-12 08:21 [#01747643]
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i'm lazier than u
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DeleriousWeasel
from Guam on 2005-10-12 08:23 [#01747645]
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that's an unecessary Ad Hominem attack.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-10-12 08:27 [#01747655]
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well.. with not even the premium members posting pics of any relevance or even funniness in most cases, how do you think it'd look with everyone posting pics? we'd quite quickly deplete the internets picture reserves.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-10-12 08:27 [#01747656]
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then I really don't get what you mean, I'm afraid.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-10-12 08:28 [#01747661]
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Are you suggesting that, for yann_g's sake, "there would be less premium members at any one time" is a good thing?
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Xeron
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-12 08:29 [#01747663]
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she's happy cos she'll be receiving a big fat cheque (in the envelope).
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-10-12 08:29 [#01747665]
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posting pictures is not speshul
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Xeron
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-12 08:31 [#01747667]
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no not for his sake, i'm saying that after reading the responses to my intial post, it looks like most would refuse to pay and thus there would be less premium mebers which would make yann_g happy.
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Xeron
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-12 08:31 [#01747669]
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it's virginpusher.
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yann_g
from now on 2005-10-12 08:33 [#01747671]
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that means i'm smarter as well, then :) but i'm sure you just don't try hard enough. not that it's worth it...
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-12 08:33 [#01747672]
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Why fucking change it though? I don't really know what you're getting at!
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-10-12 08:38 [#01747676]
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theres a whole site of em ill to show him later ( i wa slooking for a shoddy picture to post but found pandas!)
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-10-12 08:39 [#01747679]
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it's boredom
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Xeron
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-12 08:39 [#01747680]
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I think you're getting to worked up, I'm sure if it was sombody like qrter advocating this you'd just either keep quiet or post refined comments (not big out of context outbursts).
In answer to your question, LOOK! AT YOUR SCREEN for God's sake. Xlt is changing (for the better), improvements cost money. You would be shot for suggesting a stagnation in the modernising British economy, the world of finance is like a ladder, you want to earn more you have to spend more. You want a nicer apartment you have to pay more. A better XLT would thus need more funding.
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Xeron
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-12 08:40 [#01747681]
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:)
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-10-12 08:41 [#01747682]
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dollar dollar bill y'all
(im sure im not helping but it cures the boredom for five mins)
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yann_g
from now on 2005-10-12 08:42 [#01747684]
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LOL
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Xeron
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-12 08:42 [#01747685]
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I don't get it :(.... please explain.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-12 08:43 [#01747687]
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BIG pants.
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-10-12 08:48 [#01747691]
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nor do i dont worry im not quite "with it" today
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Xeron
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-12 08:50 [#01747692]
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LOL :)
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Anus_Presley
on 2005-10-12 08:55 [#01747694]
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Stupid idea.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-10-12 08:58 [#01747695]
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Hey you mean the best. Thats a good thing but i dont think it would be a helpful idea.
The reason for the ads is because not enough people were donating. To keep things as they are you are expecting members to donate twice as much for what they already get.
That seems flawed to me. If they already didnt donate enough what makes you think they are going to double it all of a sudden?
Lets play devils advocate here and no disrespect to anyone here.
This site was supposed to be done in aug 02 if my memory serves correctly. Since then we have a lazy link, pic posting, more favs and that thing on the right over there.... and radio.
Aside from this board what board charges you to post pictures? $20 a year to post pics or in your equation it would be $30. I dont know.... that doesnt seem worth it.
I cant donate. No bank account = no paypal. I cant get a bank account for 13-14 years. That leaves me SOL.
And what about these ads? if i click my five a day what does it matter? It doesnt renew or go towards my account. I think it should there should be some way to credit that.
I dont know these are just my thoughts as selfish as they are.
:)
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oyvinto
on 2005-10-12 09:02 [#01747699]
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you cant get a bank account for 13-14 years.
details please :D/:P
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