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i was joking about the piles of cash ploy, pander. |
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:D!!! Actually that could quite possibly be fun! Also the "piles of cash" idea could and does actually work but i thought you were serious. I will blame it on the fact that i just woke up :P |
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well, i don't really believe it's a money making scheme, but that may be a byproduct of the shutdown. |
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we still don't know that they are closing due to financial problems, that's all speculation. sure, they've got to sell whatever stock they have to pay the bills. vicepresident panda, can i get you a cup of coffee? |
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Getting a job doesn't mean you're "giving up" music. I quite regularly manage to do 5 hours of music a day, in spite of working full time. Some of the most revered writers couldn't live only by the money generated from their writing while they were alive... I'd also like to re-iterate Plaidzebra's point "and now it seems like a good time to point out yet again that merck did not report that they were going to fold because of piracy or financial problems." |
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if merck aren't closing due to lost sales/piracy why are various merck artists displaying that anti-file sharing banner. surely merck will have kept all their artists informed of their decision? |
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we should do a poll about this..i'd really like to see how many people here downloaded any merck albums? i check out a serious amount of music, but i can say that i bought more of their releases than i have downloaded. bought two (samplers) and downloaded one album which sucked heavily and sounded like everything else on those samplers. |
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rephlex has anti-piracy messages on their releases and they aren't closing. back to logic class with you. tolstoyed, to be fair it's a mixed bag on the label, and while they definitely favor the hip hop infused sort of old school style and the samplers did tend to heavily favor the releases with a capital I D M, tiki obmar is an example of a merck artist that sounded very different from what you might expect from the label. |
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which album was it, out of curiosity? |
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no idea..i never listened..just a quick hear through. i wasn't planning on even doing this but someone here was real persistant of how much im going to like it. i think it was something that started on 'ed'..like edit or something. |
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Sounds good Mr Zebra! We must get to the bottom of this issue. I'll have my secretary cancel my 1 o clock. I am giving you a raise and making you my personal advisor! |
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cheeky! ;) the merck artists imply merck's closing due to file sharing. it's not just an inconsequential run-of-the-mill 'hey kids remember to buy our records not nick em' message. |
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well, only 2 M3rck artists (Lackluster and Proem, their more "famous" ones on the roster), display banners. In actuality, they're more like splash pages. And they dont say anything about pirating. All they say is "we warned you this was going to happen." I'm just curious what this "warn" was and where it occurred. |
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anyone want to join our straw-clutching contest? let's not forget deceptikon's page, nor skyler's comments over at mu. |
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hold up, ceri. if you download an album for free that you wouldn't have otherwise bought, that's what stealing is. you aren't entitled to own that album. you stole it. whether you like it or not is totally irrelevant. "well, i don't think i like this album, so i will download it and listen to it many times and maybe burn it, but that's not stealing because i don't really like it." give me a fucking break. you guys can go on and on and try to justify your actions however you want - i don't give a shit what you do. but as you can see, it does affect independent musicians when you download their music for nothing instead of buying it. this shouldn't be so difficult to get your head around. |
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if the music is really good someone will surely buy it! or at least a higher percentage compared to if something was only 'ok'. so until artists don't reach that degree of 'goodness', either intentionaly or by chance, they shouldn't strive to live of their music. personaly, if i was making music, i'd be flattered if someone would want to give it a listen..and if they would actually want to buy it i would be very happy..but i wouldn't hold anything against anyone getting it for free. it's silly to think you can only live out of your music if you don't reach the certain level of quality :) |
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>qrter said: you keep saying things like "once things work >themselves out" but the thing is things won't work themselves out >- you'll have to do it. ''' well, i made a statement as to things working themselves out, without also adding the 'and so will i'. i have gotten to the place where i even more-so than ever before realize that what im doing, reaches a point, upon which i normally stop, even if i have a mental impression of where i want to take it next. once it goes exactly where it needs to go, every track, i'll have "worked myself out", and maybe that will result in 'things (outside me) working themselves out'. but at the same time, what i've done, will probably in the end bear fruit. and by that i mean it being enjoyed/heard/used by someone. if any of it comes back to me then great. ------ >qrter: you seem to think too much in 'black and white' terms, >it's either the one or the other. being passionate does not >necessarily mean spending all your time on something. /////// to each his own. i believe being passionate about something means you think live and breathe it, constantly. it is what moves you, and it is what makes your tears well. /////// >dont go through half of your life setting yourself up for >something that may not benefit you and then all of a sudden >you are like 29 broke and realize you need a actual job. well i'll be there soon, 2 years to go. but a lot could happen in 2 years. >virginpusher:"Artist/Musician" doesnt really look that good on a >job a aplication. I mean what contacts could a possible >employer find? What kind of information and or conclusion >would they come to upon seeing this. hopefully a positive one , if they happen to be hiring me for making music for them - which i've done for one website introduction, soundfx/some music, which resulted in me getting roughly 3/5 of this laptop together. there are _very few_ possibilities out there.. but the _very few_ will suffice. providence. |
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well, with all do respect, I'm not seeing any antipiracy messages on deciptikon's page. And nautilis has always had a personal vendetta against file sharing, so what else is new? Quite frankly, his own interpretations on the matter could have gotten the best of his opinions, forcing him too jump to conclusions like us all. As pietrobot mentioned, we'll have to wait and see what the explanatory message will be in the coming weeks. |
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well, i would say that you have to be very business savvy to make a living off of music. talent would help, yes. you're basically right about that. but look at that second paragraph. what "i" would do if "i" was a musician. that's well and good, but every musician is different. some musicians want you to download their music and some don't want you to. you have to respect their right to choose how they want to control their art. |
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gl0tch, at some point in time, machinedrum/proem/deceptikon/LL were showin the banner. machinedrum/deceptikon dont anymore |
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they should perhaps keep it for themselves if it's that precious :) yeah, we're all different.. |
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well, why wouldn't it be precious to them? it's often the product of a lot of time, effort and emotion for them. it belongs to them. |
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yep, we will see. perhaps the artists have taken their banners down for reasons we don't yet know. who knows? perhaps merck just decided to call it a day and no longer fancied releasing electronic music, simple as that. perhaps they're planning to relaunch for the breakcore massive. |
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exactly my point. we0ll never get to bottom of this :) i have a strong opinion on the matter and i really doubt someone could change my mind about it..not even you who i respect very very much :D |
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I think we'll find out. P-bot mentioned Gabe [m3rck] would clarify in the coming weeks. I wouldnt be surprised if an article about it appears in Grooves Mag some time soon. |
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i wasn't really thinking about merck there..i really couldn't care less what they say made them close it down. |
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Leaving p2p/piracy aside. Everyone who can make money out of their talent like musicians, actors with sports etc, should feel very honoured when they don't necessarily have to get a fulltime job. If this talent\hobby doesn't make enough money to earn a living it's sad but not disastrous. |
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it's still a full time job, maybe it's just a full time job that you love to do... |
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SOOOO... What are people's favorite Merck releases? Cause, i'm embarrassed to admit, I don't actually know which artists are on Merck. |
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Syndrone pwns. |
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The only Merck artist i ever downloaded was helios and i never listen to it so it's not MY fault. |
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well brothomstates did quite an excellent vinyl only remix of his track on squadron cd, for the merckSA 12". he also did, to these ears, quite a remix for the machinedrum remix CD and later 12" called 'half the battle'. |
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I also love my daytime job but it can't be compared with a job that needs talent. |
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i've listened to m3rck radio while they were playing sets from ekko festival norway. I've recorded some random track from "fantasia live @ ekko" and its one of the best tracks i've ever heard. |
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thats uusi fantasia live @ ekko, a finnish project .. that isnt signed on merck.. they mite have a webpresence somewhere |
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