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epohs
from )C: on 2005-09-13 18:09 [#01722493]
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Ok, maybe I'm missing something obvious, but anyhoo; say I use another program to alter a whole bunch of the ID3 tags & filenames of mp3s that I have in my iTunes Library, is there any way to force iTunes to update the library without having to remove & add folders back manually? Like, where's the button to make iTunes rescan the folders that i've added to the library?
(after this question is answered you can fill this thread with glorious tips that will cause me to get more enjoyment out of iTunes.)
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-09-13 18:18 [#01722505]
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I din't know, I normally delete everything in the itunes library and then get it to rescan. Is that.. vaguely, in the... ballpark?
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-09-13 18:19 [#01722506]
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Oh no, sorry, I just read your thread properly. "without having
to remove & add folders back manually?" Sorry. I've wasted yours, and anyone else who might read this thread's time
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-09-13 18:23 [#01722511]
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that's exactly it!
it's what i've been doing for the last week or so (that's how long i've been using the program), but it just seems like a back-assward way of handling it.
i mean, is it so out of the ordinary that people might modify their files in a program other than itunes that they wouldn't think to include an update library button?
the reason i ask is, i'm trying to get into the habit of rating the tracks as i listen to them on my ipod, and doesn't removing a file from the library manually break the ability for the ipod to sync its rating/last played data with the files that are on your local machine's hard disk (read: itunes library)? if so, that kinda sucks.
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xceque
on 2005-09-13 18:27 [#01722513]
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It is indeed the shittiness. I use iTunes at work and removing/re-adding appears to be the only way to do it.
Also with new iTunes 5 I've discovered that if you turn off the radio in general option your network sharing capability is disabled. Arseholes.
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-09-13 18:29 [#01722514]
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that's what i was afraid of...
that is iTarded as hell.
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-09-13 18:35 [#01722519]
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Ok, so now the question becomes, is this a dealbreaker, or is iTunes still worth using?
If not, what's better?
(i am borderline infuriated that the apple usability zen masters would overlook this functionality)
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-09-13 18:38 [#01722522]
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jeezz louise i use too fucking many commas nowadays
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xceque
on 2005-09-13 18:40 [#01722524]
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The only, and I mean only reason I use it is to share my stuff and listed to other peoples shared stuff on the network at work. The hours of entertainment I imagine I could provide with hundreds of Goon Show episodes and the 365 days project cheers me no end. plus I know the boss can see them so I try to make sure there's some files in there with very very rude titles.
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-09-13 18:47 [#01722530]
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damn.
it (itunes) just seems like a fairly handy way of organizing my music collection. i mean, i keep a rigorously structured filesystem, and i don't let itunes touch that, but still it seems more efficient to use itunes as a front-end to my mp3s than windows explorer.
right?
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-09-13 18:50 [#01722532]
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christ, i need to stop drinking on weeknights.
sorry guys.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-09-13 18:51 [#01722533]
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NO !
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xceque
on 2005-09-13 18:53 [#01722534]
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I find it pretty shitty. It seems to be beyond its capabilities to sort the list by track within album within artist.
I've about had it with mp3/music database programs. I'll probably end up writing my own. Not done that since my polytechnic days when I was learning Pascal. *nostalgia*
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-09-13 18:56 [#01722535]
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godammit why do computers suck so fucking bad, and beer rules so fucking much?
is there no justice in the universe?
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-09-13 19:05 [#01722540]
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i really wanted a mac zealot to come in here and show me that not only could itunes do what i wanted but that it could do it better than i had imagined possible and it could also do a myriad of other things that i had never thought were within the scope of reality.
i still have faith that it will happen.
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child810
from boston (United States) on 2005-09-13 19:28 [#01722555]
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Why would you use another program to update your tags when iTunes can do it?
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-09-13 20:06 [#01722579]
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i imagine that's what steve-o is thinking.
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rasec
from mty (Mexico) on 2005-09-13 20:08 [#01722582]
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NO iTunes
YES WinAmp
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Music Library is way better in WinAmp [i say this as a WinAmp user]
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-09-19 19:55 [#01727935]
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Has anyone ever tried this?
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-09-26 18:44 [#01734702]
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Ok, I think I found a way to update the iTunes library without removing/re-adding folders. Although, i haven't tested it thouroughly yet.
- Import your mp3 folders - Change ID3 tags in external program - Select the newly altered files in iTunes - Right-Click > Get Info > Click "Ok" (do not change anything)
This seems to work for the artist, genre, album, and title tags, and on multiple files... let me know if you find out that it isn't working for something or another.
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-09-26 18:46 [#01734704]
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Oh, and when you click "Get Info" it will show the tags as they are in iTunes even if you've changed them in a 3rd party program... but, when you click "Ok" they should update.
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-09-27 07:12 [#01734914]
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is this working for anyone else, or am i simply insane in the membrane?
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Fah
from Netherlands, The on 2005-09-27 07:21 [#01734920]
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this thread shows basicly why i've only used iTunes for 5 minutes and started using foobar...
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-09-27 07:31 [#01734926]
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Seems like I used foobar for about 53 seconds back in 2001 and wasn't too impressed.
What are its strengths over iTunes, Fah? Sell me on it.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-27 07:45 [#01734930]
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foobar is a load of hassle. fuck foobar.
fuck itunes too. It's only good to transport stuff to my iPod.
Fuck taht lack of library updating.
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-09-27 07:53 [#01734933]
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Yahbut, I think if I'm able to trick iTurds into updating it's library then it'll probably meet all of my needs pretty well.
I just want a better way to organize and find my music than in one huge alphabetical list (winamp), or having to navigate to each individual folder in windows exploder.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-27 07:55 [#01734934]
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The Winamp Library is good, mainly because of the auto update, but the iTunes interface is great for doing mass edits. I just wish it would autoupdate. You lose all your playcounts etc when you delete tracks etc. FUCKING FAGGOTS!
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-09-27 07:58 [#01734937]
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Yeah, you're right. Also, i don't think my method will work if the filename is changed, or if new files are added to folders.
Jesus, you'd think by version 5 they'd have this basic functionality.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-27 08:02 [#01734943]
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It's exactly that, basic function-fucking-ality. I'm sure it's something that's been mentioned before. It's such a retarded way of doing things. If I had any coding know how I'd do my own database type wotsit to do this for me. I can't code a thing so I won't.
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-09-27 08:06 [#01734950]
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*bounces a nerf football off steve jobs' $40 designer buzz cut*
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-27 08:10 [#01734954]
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*bounces pdt off of jobs*
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-09-27 08:10 [#01734956]
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o/*\o
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-27 08:13 [#01734958]
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\o/\o/
Shope and ginger reign supreme!
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2005-09-27 08:18 [#01734962]
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wow
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