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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-09-12 19:25 [#01721563]
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So, here it is, my final project in synthesis at Berklee. I'm now officially done with the synth major, and now its just one more year of composition classes.
Anywho, for the final project, we get to decide what we want to do, and then we work with a teacher (getting advice, feedback etc).
I decided to do a 3 movement composition (its ambient/soundcollage/minimalistic), which would be made entirely from sounds that I designed from scratch, either using synths, or by recording sounds and manipulating them. I also constructed my own scale for harmonic and melodic material.
Anyways, I worked on this since mid may, till mid august, putting in at least 20 hours a week on it. Its by far the longest, and most focused/detailed/etc piece I've ever done.
It's 19 mins and 11 seconds, and although it is in 3 parts, its meant to be listened to all the way through...
I hope you enjoy it...
Movement One: 0:00-4:50 Movement Two: 4:50-11:49 Movement Three: 11:49-19:11
Pyractomena Borealis (All 3 movements)
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2005-09-12 19:27 [#01721565]
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now downloading.
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2005-09-12 19:28 [#01721566]
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damn i love dsl. hehe.
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2005-09-12 19:38 [#01721568]
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i'm 2 minutes into this track and its one of the best fucking things i've heard on this board. you made all these noises yourself? because there are a lot of lot of them...
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2005-09-12 19:41 [#01721569]
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the noise that comes in at 4:50 is very disconcerting after all that ambience, but the ambient popping noises that come in later give the noise some personality. almost as if it is rhythmic but not.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-09-12 19:42 [#01721570]
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thanks man! :-D
yeah, I made all the sounds from scratch. My own synth patches, my own granular sampler I made in reaktor, and lots of recorded sounds (from objects in my room) all cut up and effected.
well, I hope you enjoy the rest of the piece!
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2005-09-12 19:43 [#01721572]
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movement one overall: lots of good timbre, which has always been a strong point of yours. it is also not too terribly repetitive, but not lacking in progression either. so far, i'm insanely jealous that i couldn't write this.
movement two: the string synths around 6:50 are fucking GREAT, especially after the noisy bits that bring in this movement. They sort of remind me of Greame Revell (dun think i spelled that right)
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2005-09-12 19:45 [#01721573]
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with the texture under those string synths, it reminds me of something angelo badalamenti would have done for lynch, yet i could imagine it as the soundtrack for a dario argento flick, or some other old foreign slasher psychothriller.
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2005-09-12 19:47 [#01721577]
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good electronoise and vibesynth structures near the end of movement two - the balance between the timbre and ambient melodies sound helix-like in this track, yet one never seems to surpass the other one too far, the balance of the overall composition is solid as well.
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2005-09-12 19:49 [#01721579]
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movement three: a nice and wonderfully slow, drawing start, it reminds me of looking at stars out in the countryside, with only the wind in your ears in the spring. then those vibes and electro noises come in and it gets even better. the melody here is the best in the entire track so far, which is fitting, because i can feel the track's climax coming, very slowly but very surely.
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2005-09-12 19:52 [#01721582]
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marvelous psuedo-choral synths that come in around 16:00 or so. there are a lot of channels that contrast and compliment one another throughout this track, creating a sort of unified variety.
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2005-09-12 19:54 [#01721583]
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smooth clean fade around 17:10 is well-executed. this movement winds down nicely, in expert form. and those subtle, barely-there ghastly synths at the end are icing on this sweet sweet cake of a track.
all in all, i can say no wrong about this. well done, sir. if there is ANY justice in this world, you should ace that class. :)
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-09-12 19:56 [#01721585]
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thanks for all the feedback man! Thanks for taking the time to listen to the whole thing!
(and yeah, I got an A ;)
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2005-09-12 20:12 [#01721590]
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well, that's good. and i should be thanking you, that track's a keeper.
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2005-09-12 20:14 [#01721591]
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well, that's good. and i should be thanking you, that track's a keeper.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-09-12 20:26 [#01721592]
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thanks man :)
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Seracelsus
on 2005-09-12 20:33 [#01721594]
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very dark and pretty!
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-09-12 20:36 [#01721595]
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thanks!
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ymenard
on 2005-09-12 20:55 [#01721601]
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The download seems down. I would really love to hear it.
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ymenard
on 2005-09-12 20:57 [#01721602]
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oh well its now up. Silly me.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-09-12 21:02 [#01721604]
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oh, good. had me freaked for a second
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sirmailbox
from chicago area (United States) on 2005-09-13 02:12 [#01721646]
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Wow this was pretty much a part time job for a few months wasn't it? Well it's downloading now.
Well I listened up until 7:22 -- forgive me for not listening to the whole thing. I know you intended for it all to be taken in together, and given the amount of work you said you put into it, the last thing I want to do is give it just a passing listen. However given that it is 3 in the morning here and I have to get up early, I have to cut it off at this point. I apologize if my opinion of it seems too quickly formed, I do not want to take your piece lightly.
Let me first say that I am not very keen on ambient pieces or sound collage or noise. I hear a lot of noodly, noisey shit on this message board and so I formed a kind of bias against the piece upon reading your description. However after just a couple minutes of listening I realized that it's levels above the other stuff I've heard here. The noise around 4:00 was produced in such a way that it sounded soft and very pleasing to the ear, which turned into a softer reproduction of the introduction sequence (which was a good way to enter the second movement). The way in which the noise was employed was very good. Nothing too blatant, nothing too abrupt, right on target.
I skipped to 14:00 just now after deciding I wanted to hear more (despite a little sleep deprivation) and was rewarded. This feels genuinely moving and emotional. I really enjoy the acidy synth that pulses toward the end of each measure. This is great! It is enchanting. Beautiful electronic music.
Well now I'm really going to sleep. Your vast efforts really show on this, man. 14:55 gives me chills (you know the hair raising thing). The first time that synth comes in! Oooh, I love it. Congratulations, this is really really fine work, even though I skipped the second movement. I will listen to it tomorrow.
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b6662966
from ? on 2005-09-13 04:44 [#01721729]
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very good Zeus. i actually enjoyed that, cant wait to hear what u have to offer after those composition courses.
btw: im guessing this is you haha decided to google the name in the id3 tag ..fucking congratulations :)
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b6662966
from ? on 2005-09-13 04:51 [#01721731]
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edit: forgot to say i agree that this is by far the best quality music ive ever heard anyone post on this messageboard.
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2005-09-13 05:01 [#01721738]
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brilliant composition, on so many levels. movement three man.. shit thats where its at. get this on hearts of space. youll get 1000s of listeners. shit i wanna say more but oddio has done it for me :)
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2005-09-13 06:50 [#01721778]
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bump for matt.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-09-13 06:57 [#01721789]
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thanks guys!
b6662966: yes, unfortunately that is me in that awful picture
Gwely: whats hearts of space?
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2005-09-13 06:59 [#01721792]
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hearts of space is the biggest ambient radio station ever.
hos.com i beleive. check it out.
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2005-09-13 07:00 [#01721793]
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HOs dot com?
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-09-13 07:01 [#01721795]
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nice! they take submissions?
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2005-09-13 07:02 [#01721796]
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yeah, but not from labeless folks. but they do make exceptions, like if you mention that award you won, they'll take your stuff for sure. publicity equals playtime.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-09-13 07:28 [#01721832]
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hmmm, thanks for the tip! I'll be looking into it!
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-09-13 10:06 [#01721984]
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bump :)
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2005-09-13 10:37 [#01722005]
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Downloading will listen later.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-09-13 12:55 [#01722161]
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bump?
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-09-19 14:30 [#01727620]
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one last bump
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-09-19 14:37 [#01727624]
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How did i miss this? I will definately be downloading this for sure.
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VampireAngel
from San Juan (Cuntland) (Puerto Rico) on 2005-09-19 14:40 [#01727626]
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Hey Zeus I havent see you in ages. How r ya doing? Well think is a stupid question because you only get better, musically speaking. I've been a fan of your music for like 2 years now. I just love your approach to electroacoustic music. Everything is always original and also very good imho :) I think you are going to be the next big thing in the USA, they need someone as original and good as you Zeus, big thumbs up for you and all your projects. Wich I have heard some of the projects you have on your webpage, please, post a link here, I lost my favorites when changing from PC to Apple. Keep up the good job you are always known of.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-09-19 14:46 [#01727640]
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thanks man! You're too kind!
I don't post much, but Im here everyday lurking...
my site is www.kcinsu.com
all my music is under "sounds and video"
I also have some modern "classical" pieces up as well.
thanks again!
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-09-19 15:09 [#01727667]
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*currently listening*
I am just going to journal my thoughts as the track progresses.
I was completely surprised by the first :40 I was expecting something way way different. Not that this is a bad thing. It worked well as an attention getter. Around the 1:22 mark was along the lines i was excepting (especially for the opening)
Really noticed that it picked up quite nicely around the 3 minute mark and felt like it should be in a movie or something. The quality of the sound is real good. Everything comes across as chrisp and nice and polished (IMO)
The 4 minute mark feels like a slow scaled down version of Telefon Tele aviv's older material with the little sounds that produce a life to the atmosphere of the track.
Around the 7:12 mark i noticed the change of pace and it was right on time in my opinion. That last section wasnt too drawn out or too short.... it worked pretty well i must admit!
Either my computer is retarded or it is completely silent @ 12:00 - 12:31..... oh there it is you tricky guy you. I thought something went wrong. Interesting use of the quietness. I wasnt expecting that either. I think its good to use that area as a little break to kind of "cleanse the pallet" so to speak.
This new movement is really great. Reminds me of winter and the first homealone movie. haha! Thats not a bad thing. I guess it makes me picture Christmas making this the first electronic song to remind me of a holiday. +5 coolness points for you!
(running out of room will be continued)
Sounds real real good @15!!!
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-09-19 15:16 [#01727676]
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The more time goes by the more i love this last movement circa 15:45..... completely perfect christmas style. I like all the little tiny effects once again. Really brings the whole thing together. Kind of like a living organism! :D
Around 18:23 now. Went quiet again so i turned up the speakers. I like those little effects and how this dwindled down nearing the end.
For me to give a 1-10 scale rating would be hard because this track is so big so i will break it down
Movement One: 0:00-4:50: Good intro and a nice place to get started in this track. Overll it turned out to be what i was expecting and wanted to hear from you 8/10
Movement Two: 4:50-11:49: I feel that this was more diverse for some reason. As if this was the harder one to create. I like the atmoshpere that was provided. 8.9/10
Movement Three: 11:49-19:11: You became the first artist to remind me of a holiday. The sound quality was the highest in this movement in my imagination and the overall sounds chosen fit so well! 9.7/10
Overall this was 19:11 well spent! Thanks for sharing! :)
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Seracelsus
on 2005-09-19 15:21 [#01727686]
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hey, just curious, what does the name mean, and how does it relate to the music?
Sarah
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-09-19 15:26 [#01727702]
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hey, thanks for the indepth response! its nice to know people are really listening!
hahah, sweet, I made you think of Christmas! It wasnt my intention, but thats cool! Its always interesting to see how people interpret music, when its instrumental. Its actually why I dont like giving very clear track titles, that immediatly put the images in your head. I came up with this title after I wrote the entire thing, and got my own images in my head.
Thanks for checking it out man! (I know 20 mins is a hard thing to sell sometimes!)
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-09-19 15:29 [#01727705]
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its the scientific name for "fireflies" or "lightning bugs"
I dont write music, with a particular thing in mind... I write freely, and when Im finished, I listen several times and come up with a name from the images I myself get.
So I wasnt thinking of fireflies at the time... it was just an after thought, but again, I dont want people to listen with "fireflies" already in their mind, so I chose the scientific term, so there would be a less immediate connection.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2005-09-19 15:35 [#01727707]
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What were you thinking at the time?
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-09-19 15:37 [#01727710]
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I just let myself get into it. Its more about abstract feelings and states of mind... its nothing I can really put into words.
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2005-09-19 15:38 [#01727712]
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indeed. i would also like to know this.
btw, did you compose it as several smaller sections as first, or did you compose everything at once?
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2005-09-19 15:39 [#01727713]
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nice!
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-09-19 15:40 [#01727715]
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The best thing is that the movements are distinct but ehy compliment each other. I sometimes get carried away with "the zone" when i make ambeint and it gets samey over time. I prefer that but its not always well received.
In the back of my mind that is what i expected here but thats not how it is at all. I could think of it like 3 seperate tracks off the same album jammed together. Works real well. I will have to keep this on the hard drive for a while
:)
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-09-19 15:43 [#01727722]
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I did write it in 3 parts... however I had a basic idea of the general shape of things when I began.
I ended up abandoning it after the 1st movement though, and I went off somewhere else with the second movement. The third movement was basically what I had in mind from the start, but it changed, due to the change in the second part.
Even though each part is its own thing, I still think of it as one large piece...
and I also HAD to write it in smaller sections, because the amount of CPU I was using with all the plugins and audio files was insane. Even freezing each track, it was too much for my comp to handle. I have about 10-15 seperate logic files. About 5-6 of those are sketch files. The rest are breakdowns of various elements in a track. Id write certain elements in one file, save it as audio, dump it into another track, work more, save that as audio etc.
Then I took all the bounces and put them into a master file for mixing it all together.
It was a pretty messy process actually
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