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offline tftp from Danver (United States) on 2005-07-29 19:37 [#01678841]
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what albums/songs should i start with?



 

offline gay_dad from 5 go mad in Dorset (Chile) on 2005-07-29 19:53 [#01678859]
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Black Dog "Bytes"


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2005-07-29 19:53 [#01678860]
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Trainer and Double Figure, I reckon


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-07-29 19:54 [#01678861]
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qt 3.14


 

offline SPD from United States on 2005-07-29 20:25 [#01678882]
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i started w/ Rest Proof Clockwork and the single Undoneson.
try Undoneson cause its cheap. if you like that then go all
out. as for Spokes, than may not be the best place to start.
anywhere else is pretty good.

actually i started w/ The Black Dog: Spanners, but that
counts in a different way.


 

offline mrgypsum on 2005-07-29 21:21 [#01678905]
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i'd say double figure - it's what i started with - i think
of double figure as their best, but that is really my
opinion, its got about 19 tracks on it, so it should keep
you busy for a couple of weeks. its got this kind of
metallic warm synthy sound to it, its much more sythetic
sounding than their other stuff - then move wherever you
want.


 

offline NOTJocco from NOTJocco on 2005-07-29 21:30 [#01678915]
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Trainer's a good spot.

Don't ban me.


 

offline optimus prime on 2005-07-29 21:39 [#01678940]
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you know you miss elusive.


 

offline Aesthetics from the IDM Kiosk on 2005-07-30 01:13 [#01678997]
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I always recommend to start with the first release. That way
you grow along with the artist and the way they envolved.

In this case it's difficult to draw a line because as you
probably know Plaid started their career as The Black Dog.

If you fell in love with a track you heard by Plaid then you
should start with their first releases, Undoneson/Not for
Threes and so on.
Check this for their complete discography.

If you never heard much of them I recommend you to start
with their first Black Dog release and follow the
timeline.


 

offline Aesthetics from the IDM Kiosk on 2005-07-30 01:16 [#01678998]
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"and follow the timeline" should've been, in order of date.


 

offline recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2005-07-30 02:10 [#01679004]
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where to begin ?

p-brane is great, double figures, spokes, so yeah all of
them

when in the heck is that dvd coming out ? ahahhhh
the neverneding project


 

offline Combo from Sex on 2005-07-30 02:52 [#01679019]
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i advise you P-brane EP, it's my favourite release my Plaid

(imo avoid Spokes it sucks)


 

offline recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2005-07-30 02:57 [#01679020]
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i was bummed at first, but then after listening to it real
loud while cleaning the house about 2-3 times its nice, a
bit more "chrismas-sy" than i would have wnated, but yah

oh yeah the dvd is getting a good chug, chekc warp everyday


 

offline isnieZot from pooptown (Belgium) on 2005-07-30 03:15 [#01679023]
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Spokes!!!!


 

offline i_x_ten from arsemuncher on 2005-07-30 03:30 [#01679028]
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spokes was awful!


 

offline mrgypsum on 2005-07-30 03:58 [#01679062]
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chrismasy is exactly how i describe them to people! haha,
esp miami vice


 

offline tridenti from Milano (Italy) on 2005-07-30 03:59 [#01679063]
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Double Figure [WARP84]


 

offline thatne from United States on 2005-07-30 05:32 [#01679170]
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My first Plaid record was Trainer, and I have not ever
really gotten tired of it. It's still as fascinating to me
as the first time I listened. I like the Balil tracks the
best.


 

offline tftp from Danver (United States) on 2005-07-30 05:33 [#01679171]
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didn't get too far into any of them last night
maybe later tonight


 

offline MrBoogie from United Kingdom on 2005-07-30 07:18 [#01679211]
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Black Dog - Virtual
Black Dog - Age Of Slack
Black Dog - Black Dog EP
Black Dog - Black Dog Productions EP
Black Dog - Bytes
Black Dog - Spanners
Black Dog - Temple Of Transparent Balls
Plaid - Trainer
Balil - Parasight
VA - Applied Rhythmic Technology (ART4CD)
VA - Objets D'Art
VA - Experimenta

Forget the Plaid releases after the Black Dog split - they
aren't remotely as good.


 

offline Skink from A cesspool in eden on 2005-07-30 07:37 [#01679216]
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Spokes is the best one!!! What are you on about???


 

offline staz on 2005-07-30 07:51 [#01679222]
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BOOC/P-Brane


 

offline yann_g from now on 2005-07-30 08:05 [#01679227]
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not for threes
restproof clockwork
spokes
double figure
trainer
EPs

spokes is an amazing release. trainer is for the story, some
very good (if not classic) moments but really old school and
dated.


 

offline melack from barcielwave on 2005-07-30 08:07 [#01679228]
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double figure : where i started, where i stopped...


 

offline stefano_azevedo from Pindorama (Brazil) on 2005-07-30 08:16 [#01679231]
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i like threads like this.

i only listened spokes, trainer and spanners.
spokes and trainer are cool. trainer shall be a nice way of
starting, since its a 2xCD with loads of easy tunes.


 

offline yann_g from now on 2005-07-30 08:47 [#01679242]
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what if he's a talented listener? easy can be boring.


 

offline MrBoogie from United Kingdom on 2005-07-30 08:56 [#01679246]
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Handley / Turner produced their best work when Downie was
with them, and vice versa. Surely this is an indisputable
fact?



 

offline Skink from A cesspool in eden on 2005-07-30 08:59 [#01679251]
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i am afraid i don't really agree. the best elements of the
the black dog went when handley and turner left. You only
have to listen to spokes to realise that. Pure magic!


 

offline MrBoogie from United Kingdom on 2005-07-30 09:22 [#01679270]
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You're not completely wrong. Handley and Turner were
obviously the technical and melodic force in the early BDP,
but Downie provided the magic - the mystical, esoteric vibe,
the Asian and African sounds, which were a perfect
complement to Plaid's Ancient/Modern clash. That sense of
"ritual", for want of a better word, has been completely
missing from everything Plaid have done since, and it
suffers for it.

That's why, despite its hi-tech production, Spokes is
nothing compared to Bytes.

Downie hasn't had a great time of it since the split, but I
much preferred "Music For Adverts" to "Not For Threes". I
didn't bother listening to Plaid for years after that
stinker came out.


 

offline stefano_azevedo from Pindorama (Brazil) on 2005-07-30 11:18 [#01679334]
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trainer contains angry dolphin and some other talented
tracks.

most plaid is easy without being boring, dont you think so?


 

offline Skink from A cesspool in eden on 2005-07-30 11:46 [#01679344]
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i really need to listen to bytes again.


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2005-07-30 11:53 [#01679346]
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"the mystical, esoteric vibe,
the Asian and African sounds" - if you want such thing just
go and listen to Enigma, dude ! or ComradeF.

saying that Spokes is shit because it's not similar to Black
Dog music is the most stupid thing i've read here.

there is Black Dog and Plaid, fucking appreciate that !

-----------------------------------------------------------
--
p.s. many people who make music and struggle to create
something original [ i mean structures ] can appreciate
Spokes.

p.s.2 if you like p-brane it's strange you don't like
spokes.


 

offline Skink from A cesspool in eden on 2005-07-30 11:59 [#01679348]
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calm yourself dude.


 

offline isnieZot from pooptown (Belgium) on 2005-07-30 12:04 [#01679352]
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no, YOU! CALM YOURSELF!!!!!!!!


 

offline stefano_azevedo from Pindorama (Brazil) on 2005-07-30 12:06 [#01679356]
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CAN YOU ALL FUCKING CALM YOUR SELVES, NOW!!!!!!!!!


 

offline stefano_azevedo from Pindorama (Brazil) on 2005-07-30 12:14 [#01679370]
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calm down dude


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2005-07-30 12:46 [#01679409]
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only if you bring your avatar back, dude


 

offline SPD from United States on 2005-07-30 14:00 [#01679425]
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dude. don't ban me.


 

offline SPD from United States on 2005-07-30 14:27 [#01679430]
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Virtual EP - love
Age of Slack EP - love love
The Black Dog EP - love
Parallel Squelch - love
Vanttool - love
Vir2l - decent
Black Dog Productions EP - love love
Parasight - its ok
Bytes - didn't get into this like some others, but its got 3
good songs.
Temple of Transparent Balls - love love
Spanners - love right away and it grows even more later
Parallel (LP) - love love
The Black Dog Peel Session - good

Mbuki Mvuki - not my fave and the two best songs are on
Android, but the entire thing is on Trainer so whatever
Scoobs in Columbia - a real good one if only for that Aside
remix
Undoneson - love
Not for Threes - decent
Plaid Peel Session - its alright
Rest Proof Clockwork - like it a lot
Booc - love
Trainer - great
Double Figure - very nice
P-Brane - love
Spokes - its ok
Parts in the Post - very good but missing their best remix
(of Ko-Wreck)

Repeats (by Repeat) - a decent album w/ "Lilt-A"


 

offline Skink from A cesspool in eden on 2005-07-30 14:52 [#01679436]
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Alright then...

Bye!


 

offline Gwely Mernans from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2005-07-30 15:54 [#01679472]
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how do you all pronounce 'plaid'?

I *think* I know it's plaid as in -plad-
but I always say -played-.


 

offline i_x_ten from arsemuncher on 2005-07-30 16:14 [#01679482]
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yes it is plad. but yeah played sounds better.


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2005-07-30 17:34 [#01679529]
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is the Ko-Wreck released somewhere ?


 

offline SPD from United States on 2005-07-30 19:04 [#01679569]
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the Ko-Wreck Technique remix is on the Ko-Wrecktion EP by
them.

and shit:
Android EP - decent, but again all of it is on Trainer.


 

offline yann_g from now on 2005-07-30 20:07 [#01679610]
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yes, you're right but i think the more recent releases
(apart from spokes) manage to be as interesting as easy.
(spokes beeing more interesting than easy).

sorry i'm drunk


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2005-07-31 01:00 [#01679670]
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many thanks dude.


 

offline MrBoogie from United Kingdom on 2005-07-31 07:27 [#01679777]
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--------
"the mystical, esoteric vibe,
the Asian and African sounds" - if you want such thing just

go and listen to Enigma, dude ! or ComradeF.
--------

I think you might be better spending your time at an
after-school science club, rather than on a messageboard for
music. Stick to what you know.


 

offline yann_g from now on 2005-07-31 09:00 [#01679836]
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nah, their best remix is william rusere's Bukatiende


 

offline yann_g from now on 2005-07-31 09:01 [#01679837]
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who cares what it's pronounced.


 

offline mrgypsum on 2005-07-31 18:44 [#01680459]
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play eye dee


 


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