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cx
from Norway on 2005-07-04 21:12 [#01652761]
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Ok so I've been working with reason since 1.0, but now I'm stuck.
I can't seem to get that cool sound I want out of malstrom and subtractor, and this is a huge hinderance for me since I'll then have to download samples.
I don't know where to find cool samples.
My problem is, I want to create the music I've always wanted to, but all the presets in malstrom sound very weak and thing, and not at all what I'm looking for.
SO my question is, where can I find the equipment to find the sounds I always dreamt of?
How can I create those sounds?
Where do I find cool drum samples? How do I create my own drum samples that sound analogue and not digital?
I can do music easily, program the notes, program the drum beats and such, it's very easy to be creative in Reason, but I have no idea how to create "my own sound".
Any ideas appreciated.
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2005-07-04 21:21 [#01652762]
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making your own synth patches is probably a good idea.
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2005-07-04 21:31 [#01652763]
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whats up cx!
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2005-07-04 21:34 [#01652764]
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program the notes, program the drum beats
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cx
from Norway on 2005-07-04 21:43 [#01652765]
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dont be an asshole des .D
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obara
from Utrecht on 2005-07-05 02:00 [#01652815]
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welcome back !
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-07-05 05:59 [#01653005]
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Change music environments. I don't care what the reason fanatics have to say. Its inferior. Fruityloops is cheaper, more appropriate for sound design, and with all the free high quality vst plugins that are available, you can make professional quality music without the shitty interface.
Here is a site for vst plugins. KVR They litterally update this site hourly.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-07-05 06:01 [#01653006]
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Idealy, you want to use cubase.
Here they are in order from least to most powerfull
Reason Fruityloops Ableton Live Cubase
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-07-05 06:17 [#01653018]
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I disagree but that could be because I can't use Fruity Loops.
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obara
from Utrecht on 2005-07-05 06:44 [#01653035]
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can't ? why ?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-07-05 11:45 [#01653245]
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he is a man of taste.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2005-07-05 11:50 [#01653249]
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I advise you to learn subtractive synthesis first. It's fairly easy to comprehend and most of it is damn near universal - even if you're doing sampling or FM synthesis you're still using envelopes, LFOs and maybe filters too.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-07-05 11:51 [#01653251]
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Everytime I try I just get frustrated at the fact it's.... shit.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2005-07-05 11:53 [#01653253]
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Synth 1 is a great free little hybrid synth that has everything you need to learn the basics. KVR has lots of patches for it.
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obara
from Utrecht on 2005-07-05 12:31 [#01653278]
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but WHY is it "shit" to you ?
one of my mates keeps saying "fl is shit" but i haven't heard any finished track from him for years. he's experimenting with cubase/metaliser and is happy to achieve something like sq-pusher 180bpm loops.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2005-07-05 12:32 [#01653280]
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Synth 1 is a very nice free vst. get it.
If you are looking for a certain sound or texture, experiment.
*ps: dont diss the FLStudio
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obara
from Utrecht on 2005-07-05 12:34 [#01653285]
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what software do you use to make tracks ? e.g. how did you make e.g. "dreams of sheets" [if that's your track]
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melack
from barcielwave on 2005-07-05 12:35 [#01653287]
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taxidermist! can you recommend me some nice vst plugins, usefull for fruityloops, from kvr???
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-07-05 12:37 [#01653289]
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FL is too restrictive imo...
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2005-07-05 12:40 [#01653293]
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have you used version5? its really nice
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obara
from Utrecht on 2005-07-05 12:42 [#01653294]
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it all depends on imagination i think.
giginger, qrter ! answer, please !
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thatne
from United States on 2005-07-05 13:12 [#01653304]
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lol fleetmouse you have a nice av, man you remind me of the one freshmouse
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obara
from Utrecht on 2005-07-05 13:55 [#01653334]
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hahah....alright. goodnight boys.
*writes in his notebook : FL is shit*
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-07-05 14:09 [#01653353]
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Heh... the thing is, both fruity and reason are shit... but fruity is not necessarily inferior. With the math controllers and full vst support, and the 64 channel mixer with open routing, and the granular sampler, and the wav traveller, and the different kinds of playback options in the standard sampler, its a good tool for sound design at a novice level.
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2005-07-05 14:42 [#01653383]
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i belive qrter uses nuendo and giginger uses reason
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2005-07-05 14:46 [#01653387]
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the best programs are
max/msp logic 7.0 reaktor 4.0
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-07-05 14:51 [#01653390]
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acid pro 4 lyphe
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acid_polic3
from london (United Kingdom) on 2005-07-05 15:40 [#01653407]
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a nord modular is nice the g2 in partic i just got the engine and it is fucking sweet (range of sounds is immense and it sits so nicely in a mix)goes nicely with ableton + with the right cabling and mixer(s) ive gotten the nord to process a 303 and get it to go into a spring reverb and back.... i think hardware lets you fuck around in amusing ways and is not likely to crash which is always nice to know. but if yr just bored of yr sounds something like max msp or reaktor is not too expensive considering the sounds you can get/imagine.
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OK
on 2005-07-05 18:06 [#01653484]
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get a band
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2005-07-05 20:28 [#01653569]
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buzz owns all.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2005-07-05 21:03 [#01653586]
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hardware ownz software
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2005-07-05 21:05 [#01653587]
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*takes cover*
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-07-05 21:07 [#01653588]
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damn straight
*hides behind zephyr*
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ambsace
from canaDUH. on 2005-07-05 22:32 [#01653605]
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just recently got cubase. been meaning to sit down with it and see what's what. for the time being, however, i'm very much a fruity little boy. it's all i've ever put any effort into. :*(
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bryce_berny
from chronno (Canada) on 2005-07-05 22:56 [#01653609]
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synth1 is my favourite synth
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-07-06 00:01 [#01653616]
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I am starting a hardware setup, but I don't think I will ever get past sequencing it through cubase. I am cubase all the way.
Reaktor is a good tool, but once again, its no environment... Max/MSP is a good tool too, but steep learning curve (ie: its difficult from the start, and doesn't seem to look like its getting any easier). I have only begun to play with max/msp.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2005-07-06 00:39 [#01653623]
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I'm getting a couple analogue synths. Ableton Live and a good laptop w/ a great soundcard. I've been waiting for ableton for years. It should only get cooler.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2005-07-06 23:26 [#01654714]
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If i could afford it, I would buy an alesis a6 andromeda
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