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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2005-06-19 15:05 [#01638140]
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After the fourth PowerBook in just over a year, I really have had it with Apple
I am looking to get a full refund of £2529 on this piece of shit so that I can buy a decent PC laptop that will have capability to do my music stuff AND play PC games great.
I am currently looking at the AlienWare Area-51m 7700 with these specs:
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 570J w/ HT Technology 3.8GHz 1MB Cache
2GB Dual Channel DDR2 PC-4200 533MHz - 2x1024MB 2 hard drives set-up as a RAID device
all for £2,559.02
i've been that long out of the PC laptop biz that I don't know if this is gonna be decent enough
what do you guys reckon? i need help as i'm going to Apple store tomorrow!
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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2005-06-19 15:09 [#01638147]
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what's wrong with the powerbook?
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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2005-06-19 15:10 [#01638149]
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alienwear is highly overpriced btw
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2005-06-19 15:11 [#01638150]
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yet another logic board failure - i come home from work, switch it on....it's on for no more than 15 mins and the thing is blisteringly hot and it gives me a major graphics failure on the screen - both of which are symptoms of a major logic board failure
this machine is little over a month old, purchased on May 10th
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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2005-06-19 15:11 [#01638151]
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Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 570J w/ HT Technology 3.8GHz 1MB
Cache 2GB Dual Channel DDR2 PC-4200 533MHz - 2x1024MB 2 hard drives set-up as a RAID device
not decent enought??? you can fly to the moon with this thing.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2005-06-19 15:11 [#01638152]
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they blow cock,
yeah that looks pretty insane
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2005-06-19 15:13 [#01638154]
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thats what i thought - but because i've been so Mac orientated for so many years, i've lost track of what a decent spec pc laptop is
so i needed advice
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-06-19 15:24 [#01638164]
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the best advice I can give you is do not buy a laptop with a desktop-processor (i.e pentium 4). Make sure there's an M somewhere... (so pentium 4 M is ok). You'll notice that the processor speed on the Ms are lower than the regular ones, but a desktop processor will never perform at the same speed in a laptop due to the heat.. it also uses lots of battery.. and there's a difference in the way the processor is built, so you can't really compare hz.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2005-06-19 15:26 [#01638167]
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do you know of any laptop machines that are pentium M processors and that have the nVidia GeForce 6800 graphics card?
and that can be set up with internal RAID drives?
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-06-19 15:28 [#01638170]
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I don't really know too much about the other things, I only know that about the processor because my brothers comp went down from overheating 'cause it had a desktop processor. One of my roommates has a good overview of things, but he's not here right now... I could ask him tomorrow and post back if you haven't gotten answers by then...
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2005-06-19 15:30 [#01638174]
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from what i've heard about the pentium M machines is that the chip will run at slower speeds when on battery power, which for what i'm gonna use it for will be useless
i just wish Apple would get their act together - all my software is Mac based. ever since they started doing iPods, they've let their computing products go down hill
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-06-19 15:35 [#01638178]
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I think it runs on slower speed when idle. If you use 100%, it will run on 100%.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-06-20 02:17 [#01638389]
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Savrow do good laptops. Very powerful. But again overpriced. Apparently the dell XPS laptop is actually quite good. But then it's Dell so it has keylogging hardware :P
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-06-20 02:21 [#01638392]
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I have heard HP have been making good laptops lately, but then again, I used a HP Pavilion for 5 years, and hated every day of it (but that was a desktop).
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2005-06-20 06:57 [#01638550]
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fuck hp i hate those assholes
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-06-20 07:05 [#01638558]
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yeah, HP computers suck ass! my parents used to have one... first, the video-card that was in it stopped working in the middle of some photoshopping (I now have this card in my comp and it works poerfectly.. it was just some fuck with the rest of the comp) and then the whole motherboard-thingie just stopped working for no reason. I changed the fuse and bios-batteries and whatever tech-people (not hps tech people.. they conveniently never replied to emails and calling them just isn't possibl.. I asked on some tech board on the webs) told me to, but the motherboard was just burnt off. Everything but the motherboard was still working perfectly.. I think there was some wrong wiring in that comp, and I bet it's hp's fault and they're fucking annoying bastards!
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avart
from nomo' on 2005-06-21 04:13 [#01639202]
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...please post your pc-experiences afterwards...
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bryce_berny
from chronno (Canada) on 2005-06-21 06:44 [#01639291]
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it's really a shame mac is dropping the powerpc, because it's a superior chip
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_awt_
from Malmö (Sweden) on 2005-06-21 06:58 [#01639309]
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i have had a new pc laptop for a few weeks now and it is still working very well (to my own suprise.) But but, im only using this one for audio, it's pretty much 100 percent optimized for music making and im only running audio apps (on a seperate harddrive) so I have no idea how this computer would act if I threw some games in here and started to mess around, Before i started cleaning this up it was one of those "multimedia monsters" and I made it my top priority to clean shit out and rearange things to make them suite me (and my music) but as i said, im not sure at all how it would act with games and stuff like that, the spec's on the PC youre thinking of looks pretty got damn extreme though, but i STILL cant tell you that things are going to run totally fine on a PC as im probably the only one ive ever met who have had an good experience with a PC laptop.
Good luck
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-06-21 07:09 [#01639322]
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PC's that are well constructed, and are properly set up are wonderfully stable. Its when you get the most affordable pc, or you get your pc from a bad company that you find computers that crash. Unfortunately, anybody can put together a pc with cheap parts. Apples come practically out of the box. If you spend the same ammount you would for a powerfull mac, on a powerfull and well built pc, you will see an increase in preformance, and it will be perfectly stable.
My computer works perfectly. The only complaint I have is the instability of my 'customized' version of Cubase SX. No problems anywhere else, and my computer cost $800. However, to be able to play games and get professional sound, I did add another $500 dollars in parts.
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_awt_
from Malmö (Sweden) on 2005-06-21 07:28 [#01639356]
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I see, my computer is a intel pentium 4 laptop 3,2 ghz with 1024ram, people told me when i said that i was getting this that it would not perform as well an regular 3,2ghz and i even read the same things in magazines and got totally worried that it would suck, but after getting an external faster harddrive this one works just as good as my girlfriends 3,2ghz desktop computer with the exact same specs. And as i "cleaned" up my computer it even runs much more smoothly then her dirty thing with icons all over the got damn screen.
Im not saying this to take an part of the pc vs mac battle or anything, im just really happy that this computer is running as well as I expected it too and I was really afraid of getting dissapointed there for a while, now i feel at ease and will continue my search for an good external soundcard...........!
it's a lovely day by the way
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-06-21 07:30 [#01639360]
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People are consistently wrong.
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_awt_
from Malmö (Sweden) on 2005-06-21 07:48 [#01639385]
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yeah, and your avatar reminds me of my girlfriend who is at work =D
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-06-21 08:24 [#01639414]
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Hahahahahaha!
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Jedi Chris
on 2005-06-21 08:40 [#01639417]
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Get a Sony Vaio, you won't go wrong with one of those.
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OK
on 2005-06-22 09:47 [#01640630]
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i think you should try buying your powerbook at another store
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