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soundguy
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-06-10 08:25 [#01628620]
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I'm so sick of seeing RDJ threads on this board I'd thought I'd start one of my own, everybody seems to think the guys a genius (and in some respects he is) but he's also one of the most purile, immature artistes I've ever come across.
the British guys on this board will probably have got what Windowlicker is actually all about, it's no doubt been discussed already (can't do a search at the mo).
I'm interested to see if you DO know though, so I won't disclose it just jet, suffice to say that it's not exactly politically correct.
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2005-06-10 08:27 [#01628622]
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actually a window licker also means desiring something you can't have
(eg. you're looking at something in a shop window you can afford, but you really want that pretty frock, so you start drooling on the window = windowlicker)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-06-10 08:27 [#01628623]
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"but he's also one of the most purile, immature artistes"
can you elaborate on that a bit more please :)
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2005-06-10 08:29 [#01628624]
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sunshine bus
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-06-10 08:30 [#01628627]
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it's a direct translation from the french for window shopping, the meaning being something you can't afford, hence the video
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-06-10 08:30 [#01628628]
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I know what it means *waves hand frantically*, but, aside from that, I wonder what his "obsession" with windows (not to be confused with the much maligned computer operating system) is, be they Caustic, Polygon or Licked?
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-06-10 08:32 [#01628630]
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they taste great.
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2005-06-10 08:32 [#01628631]
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maybe its a sign of autism showing.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-06-10 08:32 [#01628632]
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the former 2 are most probably a drug reference
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Combo
from Sex on 2005-06-10 08:33 [#01628634]
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j'aime faire des croquettes au chien
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-06-10 08:35 [#01628636]
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hey frenchie what is the french phrase for window shopping?
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Combo
from Sex on 2005-06-10 08:38 [#01628637]
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faire du lèche-vitrines
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-06-10 08:42 [#01628641]
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ok where's the aphex faq gone
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soundguy
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-06-10 08:46 [#01628644]
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all wrong except for perhaps dog-belch and maybe I_x_ten, here's a massive clue, the word "windowlicker" originated from the school playground.
I'm surprised, I thought most of you would know
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-06-10 08:46 [#01628645]
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I think soundguy just found out that window licker is sometimes also used as an analogy for physically and mentally disabled people on a bus. However mr leakages description is more commonly acknowledged and apt.
I have an AFX faq thing.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2005-06-10 08:47 [#01628647]
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retarded people duh so what
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2005-06-10 08:50 [#01628652]
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you don't even know about the sunshine bus
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soundguy
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-06-10 08:52 [#01628658]
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I didn't "just found out", I knew what it meant from the off, it comes from kids observing the behaviour of special needs children, probably whilst they are driving by in their school bus, hence the licking of windows, now listen to the voice in the track, especially at the end, see what I mean about purile and immature now?.
there is actually an article/interview where this is all but confirmed, don't have a link but do a google search and you'll find it.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-06-10 08:53 [#01628659]
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if you've ever been to Truro, you'd be hard put to find someone without 6 fingers on each hand FACT
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soundguy
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-06-10 08:53 [#01628660]
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o.k. fair enough, you probably knew too
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2005-06-10 08:53 [#01628661]
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i got it covered:
getcher sunshine bus right cheer
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2005-06-10 08:55 [#01628665]
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oh no you gave it away, you could have used that little known fact to make yourself look clever for years to come
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soundguy
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-06-10 09:04 [#01628672]
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but if I kept it to myself nobody would know how clever I actually am :)
it's not just Windowlicker, "Milkman Song" is another fine example of idiot meets genius as is the one about dogshit
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sean qunt
from BELFAST on 2005-06-10 09:07 [#01628674]
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how perceptive soundguy
AFX also has a rare track called "Come Join the Spastic Society", this was confirmed to mean what it is because in the video, he clobbers his two wrists together and puts his tongue under his bottom lip.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2005-06-10 09:09 [#01628676]
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that's funnier than it should be.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2005-06-10 09:10 [#01628677]
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wut
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-06-10 09:12 [#01628678]
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it's because he was crap at football at school and all his mates called him joey deacon and spazamatazz
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soundguy
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-06-10 09:17 [#01628681]
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I know that he used to sing "milkman song" to his (for some strange reason-ex) girlfriend
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-06-10 09:20 [#01628683]
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Bleh what does it matter if he is immature. Politically correct wank; that's your problem, not Richards. I like the humour in his music.
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soundguy
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-06-10 09:25 [#01628689]
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there's a difference between being a politically correct wanker (which I can assure you I'm not) and taking the piss out of retarded people which is just cruel, for anyone over the age of 12 at least.
Unless Windowlicker was a "tribute" to them which somehow I doubt, it is funny but you really have to ask yourself some serious questions if you laugh too much.
I've said it before, I'll say it again, read "the curious incident of the dog in the nightime" by mark haddon, it's the book equivalent of a boc album (a boc book if you like), you won't laugh at retards in the same way again.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2005-06-10 09:27 [#01628692]
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but they're retarded!
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soundguy
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-06-10 09:29 [#01628696]
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some are the equivalent of vegetables sure, but it's still cruel to laugh at them IMO, but some actually operate on a higher plane, like they are more evolved or something, in the future we may all be retarded
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-06-10 09:29 [#01628697]
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Who said I laughed? I said I enjoyed the humour in his music not that I laughed at Window Licker. I also didn't call you a wanker, I actually quite like you.
Remember he made a track called phlid. Do you have a book that will make me think differently about them?
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soundguy
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-06-10 09:35 [#01628705]
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sorry mate I know you didn't call me a wanker but you might have been thinking that it's difficult to tell over the net but enjoying humour does imply that you are laughing, I think Ricky Gervais does it the best but that's because your laughing at him not at the retard.
And yes there is a book that might make you think differently about phlids (if phlids are what I think they are), Ecstacy by Irvine Welsh, 2nd story, beware though, not for the faint hearted, it made me pass out, as did "curious incident"
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-06-10 09:40 [#01628708]
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There was a double meaning to windowlicker, because j'aime faire des croquettes au chien (which if I am not mistaken is the female voice that appears mid way through the song) is translated 'I like to dress up the dog', which is slang for going out dressed to the nines, which is what the song openly satirizes. If it also is making fun of retards, that kind of fits, because if you are making fun of 'plastics' who spend too much money on clothes and making themselves look good, and you are making fun of retards, then you are kind of calling plastics retarded.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-06-10 09:42 [#01628711]
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The explanation of windowlicker, as in the translation from the french, is much more apt than the explanation in the AFX FAQ that you're up in arms about, "soundguy".
Anyhow, what the fuck does it matter if it's called Windowlicker, after retarded people? It's not fucking taking the piss out of retarded people.
You'd have a point if the song had lyrics akin to that of Milkman.
On a side note, Frank Zappa wrote songs with some of the most immature and, in his own words, "stupid" lyrics ever. It was his way of being condescending to his popular audience, who, he believed, were slightly stupid, since they needed lyrics and singing before they'd listen to a song (this has something to do with the post tolstoyed made about people not appreciating instrumental music.. which is something that grates with me a lot..)
Basically what I'm saying is that if an artist comes out with banal and stupid lyrics, they know they are such. There's a reason behind it. They're not stupid and immature themselves.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-06-10 09:44 [#01628712]
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J'aime faire des craquettes [croquettes?] aux chiens.
This is French. The disputed word might be craquettes ("I like to have sex with dogs") or croquettes ("I like to make dog biscuits").
LAZY_TITLE
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-06-10 09:44 [#01628714]
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I see. My source was wrong.
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-06-10 09:46 [#01628718]
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What does the voice in the track say near the end? I know the bit about the dog because it means slightly different things in different french dialects but I am unaware of any direct reference to people with special needs unless it says "visit xltronic" and I missed it.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2005-06-10 09:48 [#01628722]
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I thought it was "i like to feed the dogs"
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-06-10 09:49 [#01628724]
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hahaha very good :) made me ell-oh-ell.
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-06-10 09:50 [#01628728]
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Yes. I like to feed the dog in French Canadian which is where Richards girlfriend is/was(?) from. (French Canadia)
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-06-10 09:51 [#01628731]
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bwahahaha
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-06-10 09:59 [#01628739]
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If my feverish imaginings are to be believed, there's a bit of seething IDM star soap opera action in this thread.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-06-10 10:22 [#01628758]
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well? what have you got to say for yourself soundguy?
bah.
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Rostasky
from United States on 2005-06-10 10:23 [#01628759]
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He had to explain it to me, so how is a retard going to know?
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2005-06-10 10:27 [#01628760]
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Joey Deacon
God bless Blue Peter! *Pushes toungue inder lip and throws a shoe out of a window*
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-06-10 10:58 [#01628774]
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derrr brain!
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2005-06-10 12:10 [#01628863]
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I think Rich just like the word "window". In an artistic sense. Like Audax Powder. What else could you title that track? It's perfect.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2005-06-10 12:12 [#01628866]
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The theme of Windowlicker is in the video. 2 men desire women they can't have.
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