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..PC version of OSX anyone? |
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fuck that today. damn nice av man |
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I loved the photo hence why it is my avatar...you don't mind do you? |
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actually im just about to scan that roll as neg. its from when i went to nunavut. i dont know if you saw my other thread "neat pictures" heres the town i stayed in : you can update it was a way nicer scan if you want in a few minutes. |
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no no i dont mind at all! i think its neat! |
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reminds me of rabbit in your headlights |
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Excellent, yes if you don't mind. Pete: Even though it's like bend things for people to travel on in some place that is exactly the thought I had, something about the colours and tones. |
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Just to be on topic for a moment the topic title is true, Apple have decided to switch to Intels 64 bit processors for future Mac's. Shouldn't be too much hassle to port the OS as the core can be compiled to x86 already. It will be interesting to see if they target a version at PC's though because they could quite easily cause Microsoft a bit of worry and greif. |
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osx rocks, i have the latest version and it is super fast! to be honest, i dont care if they port osx to pc or change to intel processors, as long as it doesn't have a detrimental affect on the mac computers. |
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do microsoft own part of apple or is that an internet rumour? |
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I agree, I didn't make this topic as a negative thing...I think it would be nice for Windows to have a well marketed, stable, user friendly operating system to compete against. |
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exactly, might kick microsoft up the arse and start making better operating systems, instead of the half baked shit that they put out. perhaps spend more time on it, make it a leap forward, os wise instead of a slight shuffle. |
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yes i heard this news too. im not a mac fan. but i dislike microsofts practices greatly. some real competition will be good. i am a big believer in linux and foss products in general but realisticly somehting like osx on x86 will have a much greater impact for the general microsoft using populus |
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They used to hold between 10% and 15% of non voting stock in Apple but they sold it in the late 90's I beleive. |
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I would definitely try out OSX if they did port it. They've supposedly got it running fully in some backrooms haven't they? |
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to be compleatly off topic for a moment: (click image to see full size scan) as compared to note that i actually adjusted the levels on the neg scan (which i hate doing and dont do normally) i did this because the image was actually pretty underexposed (not terribly it just looks greyish) and you mentioned you liked the tones in the print scan (which are somewhat artificially induced, but whatever, well i mean they are in there, just they pulled them out for the print) |
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I'm not being a cunt to you, but you seem overrly shocked that a neg scan gives betterr quality... why? |
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well im not really. i mean i just neverknew there would be such a huge difference on some photos. like i mean how do you explain a print being overly blurry? the only thing i can think is that they printed it out of focus. which is fucked. |
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and also, for years, i was content with the prints that i would get when i got rolls developed. and i was happy to scan these prints. then i got a big poster sized print made up for soemthing at a professional lab place and found it was way way way nicer. not only was it much much sharper, but there was so much more color detail, and it was also not nearly as cropped. this had nothing to do with what they did while printing it, its not like they messed with it to make it nice. so then i realized that my little prints were crap (even though i thought they looked great) so i started looking into film scanners. and everything is amazingly better. i mean i always knew it would be better. i just didnt realize how bad the prints actually were. |
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I´m glad I already bought a new PowerBook, the next one won´t be needed until there´s intel-based PowerBooks... Apple will not make any "PC-version" of OS X, it will still require a Apple MAC to run OS X... (But of course it may now be easier to make some kind of a crack) |
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i'm not going to edit this into one sentence, but here's what my mac-loving friend had to say on the matter. fact is, it will certainly have a detrimental effect on macs - the ppc chip is superior to x86, that's a well established fact. this is bad news for mac users. 19:14 <@johnl> i'd rather have a technically-better, better-designed chip 19:14 <@johnl> with intelligent features 19:14 <@johnl> to optimise the code 19:14 <@johnl> like pipelines 19:14 <@johnl> and altivec vector unit 19:15 <@johnl> and a few more registers than intel :< 19:15 <@johnl> instead of 19:15 <@johnl> a chip that is donkeys years old 19:15 <@johnl> run at a high clock speed 19:15 <@johnl> to make it go fast 19:15 <@johnl> thus resulting in a lot of heat 19:15 <@johnl> and a lot of power usage 19:15 <@johnl> and instability too, in some case 19:15 <@johnl> plus 19:15 <@johnl> i wouldn't say no to 64-bit :<:<:< 19:16 <@johnl> x86 64-bit is shams ;( |
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fuck mac users, its good news for everyone else, including those that use neither ms or apple products |
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"this is bad news for mac users" :D Steve Jobs & Apple knows what they´re doing! |
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if they know what they're doing, whats the problem? |
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the x86 architecture is inherently inferior to the ppc one. see my post above for examples. Don't get me wrong, i'm no mac advocate - i've used them about 5 times in total and give my friend johnl a hard time at every opportunity, jokingly mac-bashing. |
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"if they know what they're doing, whats the problem?" the transition takes a lot of work to do, and many apple users are eager for new and faster macs... (especially in the field of portable macs) |
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i might wait to get a new imac then seeing as they are going to have to rework the entire os so that they work with intel chips. cos i dont want to buy one then find the chip is obsolete. was going to get one this september, might wait a bit longer now though. |
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I USE MACS AND THIS THREAD IS REALLY BORING I DONT KNOW WHAT THESE LETTERS AND NUMBERS MEAN |
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*chortle* |
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Huh? Your friend hasn't got a clue what he is talking about. The reason that they are moving to Intel is because the PPC processor development time is too slow which has led to Apple missing out on the introduction of the 3Ghz G5. Just for reference: 19:14 <@johnl> i'd rather have a technically-better, better-designed chip 19:14 <@johnl> with intelligent features 19:14 <@johnl> to optimise the code 19:14 <@johnl> like pipelines (All modern Intel processors have these. You can't multitask without them) 19:14 <@johnl> and altivec vector unit Bleh, Intels SSE2 provides almost identical functionality. The differences between them does not set one higher than the other, so this is a nonarguement. 19:15 <@johnl> and a few more registers than intel :< Yes but newer Intel processors include 64bit registers which the Mac hasn't got. Also due to the fetch method employed by Intel processors not as many registers are needed. 19:15 <@johnl> instead of 19:15 <@johnl> a chip that is donkeys years old Obviously bullshit, the PPC is as much a dinosaur as the Intel if you are working on this logic. 19:15 <@johnl> run at a high clock speed 19:15 <@johnl> to make it go fast At last something valid. 19:15 <@johnl> thus resulting in a lot of heat 19:15 <@johnl> and a lot of power usage 19:15 <@johnl> and instability too, in some case Instibility is bullshit unless the chip is being overclocked. Power consumption and heat is a valid point though. 19:15 <@johnl> plus 19:15 <@johnl> i wouldn't say no to 64-bit :<:<:< 19:16 <@johnl> x86 64-bit is shams ;( There has been no announcement that it will run on an x86 based chip. There is always the possibility of them choosing the Itanium 2 platform (although it would seem unlikely at the moment) In addition the PPC chips in the G5 have a bus speed about 4 times less than those of the P4. The reason for Apples switch is that they can't keep up with PC development and the performance of the new 64 bit x86 chips shits on the curr |
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LTL (Learn to link) Thanks for drowning out my hard written post with geek jokes. Much appreciated. Welcomeback! |
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Thanks! Odd, a full day since any posts were made in this thread, and then we both posted within seconds of each other. I'm quite sure this means something. |
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That we are actually chosen ones who will at last free black people from oppression and slavery? If not, I'm going the pub. |
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ecnad, dennis, you may like the cover art for national skyline's albums exibit one: |
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exibit two: |
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oops |
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exibit three: |
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Nice. Good work. |
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Hopefully then they start working on true compatibility instead of comptetition. Its annoying that mac and pc users have to be divided so much. |
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No they have said they will not produce an official version of OSX for any other machines than the ones they sell themselves. |
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It cut the bottom off my serious post. I meant to add the Speed to power consumption of the Sonoma (Centrino) processors is better than anything they have on the PPC platform. In fact there is every reason for Apple to make the switch an little reason not to. |
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Fuck me, I'd love a sonoma based Mac laptop. I don't know if I can hold my water until mid 2006 though. I've been looking at PC/Windows based laptops. |
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i am forced to use macs because of my career and i am here to say that when pushed to their limits macs suck just as bad as a pc. in my personal life i prefer pc, same performance for fraction of the price and most importantly more hardware/software compatabulity. i dont see how switching to intel can do any harm. |
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www.twit.tv Episode 8 Discusses said topic Leo Laporte, Patrick, basically all of the old "Screen Savers" crew doing really good (bad audio for now) podcasts. Damn I miss that show |
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:D |
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Who can resist |
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