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i cant listen to any vocals vocoded anymore due to that bitch. does anyone else have the feelings? death to contemporary radio! |
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Erm. Not for me I don't think. If it's like an actual voice singing maybe yes but when it comes to analord/daft punk I'd say no. |
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yes she really fucking raped that effect. then madonna (die another day etc) |
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it's not a vocoder. it's an "extreme" application of Autotuning. it's used to correct singers when they sing out of key without needing to record the whole singing again. |
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although I think madonna used a vocoder in die another day. but Cher used autotune I believe. |
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And to create that robotic effect which pisses me off. I hate Cher. |
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It wasn't Cher's idea though, really, it was the very young producer, whos name I don't know, but I remember him on a interview on TV saying how he tried it out when they were recording the song and they liked it and went with it. I don't know how it worked but the voice would reach certain levels and kick off the effect, or something. I quite like that song anyway. |
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What you can do is program it to redirect frequencies when certain other frequencies have been reached, so say someone is singing in a c note, 6th octave, as soon as that singer hits a csharp, then the autotuner automatically redirects the frequency to a fourth octave, giving the effect of a immediate change that isn't humanized at all. When you use a lower frequency for the pitch resynthesis, it sounds granulated or computer generated. You can also use variables, so that in the first bar it will redirect that note to the fourth octave, but in the second bar, if the same process is repeated, then it will redirect to maybe the third octave for a note, and then redirect back to the sixth octave. As well, you can use it to filter out certain notes according to different harmonic scales, so that if you are playing it according to, say the enigmatic scale, then whenever you sing or play a d it will automatically resynthesize that note as an e or d sharp, depending on which frequency is closer. |
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Sorry; resynthesize that note as an e or c sharp, depending on which frequency is closer. |
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i heard it has to do with the singer actually being able to sing (since the feature is intended for people who are slightly off). sing correctly into it and you get the robot effect. too bad the mental associations are crap, it could have been put to some good use by someone maybe |
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late! and wrong. |
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Well, that is what its intended for... but it also can be use quite easily to wrong things just as much as it is to right things. The right producer can use this technique on a mediocre singer, and make her sound like a great singer, without anyone being able to tell the difference. |
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the vocoder always kind of sucked. i think cher just brought it's sucky-ness out in the open |
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guys restored my faith in the vocoder. |
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I wish it would have been the other way around. Did the vocoder kill Cher? |
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I got into vocoding and trance after hearing that song O_O |
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No you killed the vocoder. |
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...as mentioned it´s no vocoder and vocoders suck (they are so overused!) anyway so it really doesn´t matter... |
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personally, i like a vocoder, but i rate better an heil talkbox, as popularised by flaxen-haired peter frampton, or roger troutman from 70s funk sensation, zapp. |
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i also HATE that FUCKING STUPID track!!! i HAD a neighbour who could pass a whole evening listening to that track repeatedly... i just couldnt not study, i couldnt even think... i could kill tho. |
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hmm appearantly it's a vocoder...I was wrong....OH THE HORROR!!! |
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I lvoe Cher and I love that song. |
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lvoe Cher HAahhnahahAGKHAFKUAWBF WAEF AFAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAA! |
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it's actually subtle use of it compared to what others do. |
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personally i don't y see why a bad song would kill off an excellent piece of equipment. It wasn't such a bad song and she's an eccentric woman, you can't hate eccentricity because when you become old you'll most likely be considered eccentric yourself. |
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