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offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2002-02-18 10:15 [#00092391]
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What's happening to Richard D. James?

The genius, mozart of electronic music, the man who amazed
and stunned in the 90's, the man who created new sounds, new
experiments, he was the number 1.
He made the best drill'n'bass, the best techno-acid, the
best ambient, some awesome piece of classic's music...

Now where is the genius? A part the new piano' songs tracks
his music style is stopped to the mid of 90's.
Autechre are trying to explore new musical worlds and new
musical experience but Richard is stopped.

Nobody can imagine what Richard could create with his talent
and geniality... I hope AFX one day back to surprise and
shock us, like he did in the past.

WooÆ’erAttack



 

offline Phobiazero from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2002-02-18 10:22 [#00092393]
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expect the unexpected.


 

offline wol from wales (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-18 12:01 [#00092446]
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No what u mean man....


 

offline Archrival on 2002-02-18 12:07 [#00092449]
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Hes a genius, and always will be a genius.

Listen to his latest effort Drukqs, its pure skills and its
proof that he really is a genius.


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-02-18 12:08 [#00092450]
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Another sheepshagger on the messageboard. Dew butt. Where
you from mun?


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-18 12:14 [#00092460]
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Yeah, what is it with the Wales/Canada/Sweden theme to this
MB?...If we had a map it'ld be obvious something
geographically fishy was going on...


 

offline Binaural Tea from Christmas City (Christmas Island) on 2002-02-18 12:58 [#00092497]
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lots of UK guys on here too. nothing fishy really.


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-18 13:11 [#00092511]
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Yeah, but if you got a big pair of scales and put all the
Welsh/Canadians/Swedes on one side and everyone else on the
other, I've a feeling the scales would a) not balance and
b)possibly break...

Anyways, the welsh tend to be a bit porky anyway so this
sort of experiment would be doomed...They also tend to
fidget a lot, again mucking up any true scientific study of
the .NU demographics....


 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2002-02-18 13:15 [#00092515]
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Woofer I think the same way. Its just no the same anymore,
whats with the new cd? I almost never listen to it, I find
it to be SO boring it hurts sometimes. Hes just reinvented
himself.... not made anything new... which is SAD.


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-02-18 13:17 [#00092520]
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We aren't porky. We just like food... and beer... and more
food... and abusing sheep... and then an after shag snack of
the sheep we just rodgered... and then


 

offline Binaural Tea from Christmas City (Christmas Island) on 2002-02-18 13:19 [#00092522]
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I dont agree. And btw, remember that he is not releasing his
most innovative tracks cause he doesnt wanna get ripped off.
And i understand him. But as an afx fan im not very happy.


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-18 13:20 [#00092523]
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See...I told you sooo...

Anyone who fucks their own food before eating it deserves to
spend half their life below ground and the other half
singing about it in communual showers...



 

offline Omneignotumus on 2002-02-18 13:26 [#00092536]
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I find the new one to be excellent. Prepared piano is a nice
logical step for Richard James. I wonder if he'll work with
Kronos soon. I predict some very interesting collaborations
to come.


 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2002-02-18 13:27 [#00092540]
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But like Woofer says, its nothing new, its not too
suprising, or atleast it shouldnt be to people who know and
enjoy the past works.. ...... .... of RDJ.


 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2002-02-18 13:28 [#00092542]
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Arch, probably you didn't understand what I mean.
I like drukqs too, it's a good album but apart piano' song
there's nothing new inside, there isn't much
experimentation.
Drukqs is mostly drill'n'bass (probably old tracks
rearranged), but there isn't the innovation who I'm waiting
from Richard D. James.
When I speak of innovation I speak about experimental album
like Confield by Autechre, not Drukqs or Go Plastic by
Squarepusher. Time ago Richard used to invent new sounds and
music style with a lot of inspiration, I hope he'll shock us
again with new music.

WooÆ’er

for example: I bet gwarek2 is a really new afx track.



 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2002-02-18 13:29 [#00092544]
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Yeah I totally know what you meant man...... see!


 

offline KEN from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-18 13:35 [#00092556]
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why oh why oh why are people disappointed with drukqs? its a
fantastic record and one that no one could have predicted
rich would release. as for not as innovative as
autechre...what? for the love of god!!!...my only gripe is
the artwork which is the worst sleeve ive ever come
across-reflex -'boring'? have you no ears under that
ridiculous bobble hat young man? drukqs is superb..unsure
what you were expecting the twin to release...maybe a cure
for cancer? at the end of the day he has eight pints of
blood like the rest of us-he is not a genius as genius's do
not exist...even leonardo da vinci who invented the
helicoptor intended for it to be made from solid wood!!! .
anyway i love drukqs. and the welsh.


 

offline Zombiekev from Ardmore (United States) on 2002-02-18 13:38 [#00092560]
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yeah we need some new AFX
i wish he would release an ep or something just to keep us
fans at ease for a while


 

offline Binaural Tea from Christmas City (Christmas Island) on 2002-02-18 13:41 [#00092564]
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We should write him and complain.. then again maybe not.


 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2002-02-18 13:44 [#00092570]
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Probably you didn't read well my post or I wasn't enough
clear.
I like drukqs very much, Vordhosbn in one of the best tracks
who Richard made in his story but I'm speaking about
innovation not about good tracks.
I could bet who Richard wrote Vordhosbn in 1996 and it could
be a track of Hangable Autobulb.
Arched Maid Via RDJ could be a DRUKQS track and you wouldn't
never know it.

Anyway I repeat who I like DRUKQS.



 

offline Binaural Tea from Christmas City (Christmas Island) on 2002-02-18 13:48 [#00092575]
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innovations mean good tracks in a way.
ah, anyway, continue guys...


 

offline Archrival on 2002-02-18 13:49 [#00092578]
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Drukqs has some of his most detailed tracks ever, dunno what
yall wanted?

I mean if you compare his drill n base tracks on drukqs with
his old ones in detail you see a lot of difference.

I think Drukqs has some of the best tracks that he ever
created like Ziggo, Ogiyja Switch, Cock10, 54 cymru,
Vordhosbn, Meltphace etc etc

And I dont have to comment on the piano tracks wich is the
most beautiful melodies he ever written except some SAW 2
tracks like Lichen, Rubarb etc.

Flame me ;)



 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2002-02-18 13:51 [#00092580]
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Girl Boy song is a masterpiece song but it was innovative in
the 1996 not today.



 

offline od_step_cloak from Pleth (Australia) on 2002-02-18 13:55 [#00092585]
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I don't like it that much either, his new drill style has
too many samples thrown in, i rekcon, it sounds petty but it
irritates me.
I'd rather some more ICBYD kinda stuff rather than showing
off how detailed he can make something.


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-18 13:55 [#00092586]
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It's almost as if people were expecting Aphex to come up
with a brand new note or to have found the missing chord...

Theres a lot more people working in electronic music
nowadays so RDJs is bound not to feel as innovative as it
once did...and it's 1000x times easier to get hold of any
music nowadays than even 5yrs ago...

it's like trying to recreate your first Crack pipe or first
trip...bound not to work..

I love drukqs...probably one of his best albums (SO
FAR!!!...)...


 

offline dingle berry from on a small plastic chair breat (Haiti) on 2002-02-18 14:07 [#00092600]
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drukqs is a modernday masterpiece and the vinyl mixes well
at halfspeed with lots of breaky hiphopy stuff!


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-02-18 14:12 [#00092608]
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I like Druqks. No I don't. Yes I do. Oh bollox. I haven't
even bought it yet.


 

offline Peter File from the future!!! Ooooh chase me! on 2002-02-18 14:16 [#00092610]
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He has so many machines, Richard.


 

offline Laserbeak from Netherlands, The on 2002-02-18 14:17 [#00092611]
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The Mozart of electronic music??? Why? Have you studied
Mozart's music? I think he still makes the best Drill'n'Bass
I've heard. I'm only a bit disappointed with some of the
piano pieces...


 

offline KEN from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-18 14:55 [#00092629]
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see i dont understand how can you possibly not dig the piano
stuff for example if you love what rich has done in the
past? now i admit i know fuck all about playing any type of
instrument, so from a technical point of view, i dunno, they
may be floored, but they still sound lush-just like anything
as moody and gorgoeus off saw2? and as for the drill and
bass stuff, can you not see the technical and complexity of
these composistions? how can they be deemed boring? i buy
loads of drill and bass and still seek out the harder
spectrum of old skool drum n bass, and these tracks off
drukqs are trully out there-they sound like nothing else!!
would you like me to walk you through that again? i mean, am
i missing something here? hello? H.E.L.L.O.????


 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2002-02-18 15:26 [#00092655]
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I repeat who I like DRUKQS and it's one of Richard's best
release... If Richard release this album in the 1996 it was
innovative too...

I think who everybody here know who Richard told that some
of the drukqs' tracks are old of 7-8 years, and the more
recent Nanou2.


 

offline Laserbeak from Netherlands, The on 2002-02-18 15:27 [#00092657]
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Hello, I love his Drill'n'Bass stuff, read my post again. As
for the piano tracks, I had just bought Claude Debussy and
Maurice Ravel's piano pieces and when I listened to AFX's
piano pieces afterwards I was a bit disappointed. I think
Richard should stick with doing what he does best.


 

offline Laserbeak from Netherlands, The on 2002-02-18 15:35 [#00092663]
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There are lots of tiny details on the Drukqs album that are
very innovative, they're just not as "in-your-face" as on
Autechre's latest releases. I think Richard chose to make
more pleasing tracks instead of the sound of machines going
nuts.


 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2002-02-18 15:39 [#00092666]
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Probably could be who the tiny details on Drukqs was 6-7
years old.

About Autechre's latest releases aren't my favourites, I
prefer old Autechre's album like Amber or Incunabula.



 

offline KEN from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-18 15:41 [#00092668]
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aaaaahhh c'mon wooferattack-stop sitting on that fence, its
full of splints

no mucking about now-do you like drukqs or not??


 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2002-02-18 15:50 [#00092670]
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About me this is only an interesting conversation about
drukqs, music and aphex twin with different point of view.

Anyway, my final valuation is who I like drukqs much but it
isn't innovative, imho.
(I don't want offend and provoke anybody, it's only my point
of view)





 

offline KEN from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-18 16:01 [#00092674]
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aaawww mate, you aint offendin anyone-i was only joking with
you earlier..at the end of the day it dont really matter-its
cool to have something like this MB where we can chew the
fat and talk about any old shit-aphexs work is so complex
that its bound to divide peoples views-you wont get that on
the corrs MB or kylies Mb would you? no fair play to your
views mate ;>


 

offline D-Hex from Blue Springs Missouri (United States) on 2002-02-18 16:02 [#00092675]
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Yes drill and bass bored me to death. I think it is a very
lazy style of music, it all sounds alike to me.


 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2002-02-18 16:09 [#00092683]
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totally agree... ken.
btw, do you prefer old kylie stuff or new kylie stuff? ehehe
;)


 

offline KEN from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-18 16:38 [#00092710]
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oh the old kylie stuff mate !!!!...although the aussie
songstress queen of pop is starting to look a bit hagard
these days...she looks about 57 in her new vids!!!!! ;>


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-02-18 16:40 [#00092711]
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Are you mad?!! She looks better than ever.


 

offline alienworkshop from Claymont (United States) on 2002-02-18 16:45 [#00092716]
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JESUS, richard said it himself that drukqs wasnt a good
album, he said he just released that as his last album for
warp records. So, he just got that shit out of the way, you
know, to make good music, woofer, you dont have to
revolutionize the entire genre with every album you make...


 

offline KEN from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-18 16:49 [#00092720]
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oh please jonesy-she looks like what she is -an old pop
whore that has to have injections in her face every ten
seconds to stop the wrinkles arguing for surface space-she
looks dog awful these days!!!, fair enough, she still has it
going down in the ass dept, but her face looks like someones
been chopping wood on it.

now Natalie Imbruglia -there is a fantastic looking female.

c'mon then-tell me how wrong i am....


 

offline Laserbeak from Netherlands, The on 2002-02-18 16:51 [#00092721]
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Normal Drum'n'Bass sounds more alike IMHO. Not to mention
hiphop, house, industrial, Acid, etc, etc. I find the
rhythms on Drukqs much more diverse than for example Surfing
on sine waves or SAW1...


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-02-18 16:53 [#00092723]
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Now, now Kenneth. She's a very beautiful woman. Granted, so
is Natalie but you must pay homage to the older Aussie
ladies. Besides I saw you sneaking into that panto in Brum
the other year when Madge from Neighbours was appearing
so...


 

offline KEN from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-18 16:54 [#00092725]
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yeah but what about kylies ancient looks? fuck aphex twin
and drukqs, what about kylies lunar visage???!!! SHE LOOKS
TERRIBLE THESE DAYS!!!


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-02-18 16:55 [#00092726]
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So attractive women have to look about 20 then?


 

offline Laserbeak from Netherlands, The on 2002-02-18 16:56 [#00092727]
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Do you really take Rich's interviews seriously? He always
says his albums are crap. He did that with Come to daddy,
SAW2, etc...


 

offline KEN from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-18 16:56 [#00092728]
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YOU FUCKER JONESY!! IS IT YOU WHO'S BEEN FOLLOWING ME
AROUND!!! AARRGGHH!! AT LAST!!! I WOULDNT MIND, BUT ITS THE
EXCREMENT THAT YOU KEEP PUSHING THROUGH THE LETTER BOX THAT
GETS ON MY TITS!!

besides i would describe madge as a graceful actress with
grace, beaty, and a voice like sharp gravel...


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-02-18 16:59 [#00092730]
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Shit. I knew my cover would be blown sooner or later,
but...

Madge has nowt on Helen Daniels.


 


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