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Canerfold
from Minneappleseed (United States) on 2002-02-18 17:16 [#00092735]
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Vordhosbn could not have been on HAB. Vordhosbn is far more intricate. I understand what you are saying woofer, but I don't agree at all.
And SAD?! You are SAD reflex. And who said we should write and complain? That is also a SAD comment.
When did it becomes RDjs duty to please you? He's making the fucking music and you should either appreciate it for what it is or don't pay attention to him at all. All this whinning about "rdj didnt suck my dick and make the sounds i wanna hear" is ridiculous.
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2002-02-18 17:18 [#00092737]
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Obviously the rhythm of drukqs are totally differents from Surfing on Sine Waves or SAW 85-92, etc...
You should compared Drukqs to album like Hangable Autobulb, Richard D. James album, Come to Daddy, etc...
Anyway has a personal opinion so... it's better to speak about Kylie Minogue... ;)
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nacmat
on 2002-02-18 17:24 [#00092740]
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I understand what you feel about liking drukqs but still wanting that he comes with some inovation again, like in the past.
I cant still analize drukqs as you do, cos it was the first thing i listened from afx, so i still havent got the perspective to realise that it was not as innovative as he was till 1997...
today the postman brought me caustic window compilation... i alrady love it... i think I am gonna like it more than classics
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Zombiekev
from Ardmore (United States) on 2002-02-18 17:29 [#00092743]
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the old composers couldn't even hear the music that they were writing...now that is amazing.
i don't think any artists today can be compared to that, not even afx.
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nacmat
on 2002-02-18 17:34 [#00092747]
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absolutely agree... when they say afx is the new mozart, well i think thats a bit too much... i mean, go and listen some mozart, go and listen his requiem... thats a bit too far from any other human... even aphex
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Zombiekev
from Ardmore (United States) on 2002-02-18 17:40 [#00092754]
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exactly
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Omneignotumus
on 2002-02-18 18:04 [#00092772]
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I don't think comparing the new prepared piano pieces from AFX to the impressionistic works from Debussy is a good match-up; their intent is different I think. Try and dig up some of the old John Cage prepared piano works and listen to those. Is AFX playing the prepared piano pieces himself? Or did he find some tricky way of triggering the instrument electronically. If you tell me its all samples I won't believe you. Anyone know?
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Archrival
on 2002-02-18 18:13 [#00092780]
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hmmm Canerfold is right.
Aphex never said that these tracks are shite no no no no no. He REALLY CARED about these tracks and he wanted to release them as soon as possible because he left a mp3 player with all those tracks on it atleast thats what Richard "shit on the press" James says.
LEFTOVERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I mean listen to the drill stuff on Drukqs and tell me its !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Archrival
on 2002-02-18 18:16 [#00092782]
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HAVE YALL EVER heard more advanced drill n base production (except Squarepusher) than those tracks on drukqs!?!?!?! IF, TELL ME WHO!?If someone tell me who then im off to the nearest record store to cop that album fo sure.
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nacmat
on 2002-02-18 18:18 [#00092784]
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my music is as you are saying...now come to spain and buy it....LOL
no seriously, i know what you mean and i have to agree about the production quality
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aperson
from Brentwood, TN (United States) on 2002-02-18 18:20 [#00092785]
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Yes, although it's not quite Drill N' Bass I'd say that Richard Devine is about 300 times ass complex as that. Just get SWAP, TRIGGER. That song has at least 2000 samples in it, and the beats are never the same
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2002-02-18 18:41 [#00092796]
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i honestly don't know what happened to AFX. i guess i'm not up to date with the news.
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Mr Frosty
from United Kingdom on 2002-02-18 18:57 [#00092821]
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ive been listening to AFX for about 2 years now, and i found it fascinating that i couldnt just listen to the RDJ album, or some of the Hangable Autobulb EP straight away. I almost had to listen to his music in order of release to get into it. I started with SAW, Mike & Rich and SAW II. Then progressed to SOSW and ICBYD. and now, just as Drukqs is released i'm listening to the harder Drill 'n' Bass stuff from the later albums.
I'm a DJ and have recently bought the white label '2 Remixes by AFX' and was blown away by the 2 completely different tunes. This is proof the The Aphex Twin is still being innovative in his work and I hope that Drukqs will not be the last we see of him.
If anyone hasn't heard these tracks yet, I urge you to do so.
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plugexpert
from Nijmegen (Netherlands, The) on 2002-02-18 18:58 [#00092822]
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Aphex Twin is an autobot. He has transformed into Squarepusher!
Just listen to how he treats his songs, sounds like they spend to much time yogether!
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-02-18 19:04 [#00092829]
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Drukqs isn't very innovative, true, but I feel the tracks are better than the ones before them. More of the same, but still an improvement. Vordhosbn and Cockver10 are better than anything on the RDJ Album, I think.
Still, I hope his next release truly IS revolutionary.
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Archrival
on 2002-02-18 19:06 [#00092834]
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Richard Devine MY ASS!! I GOT THOSE! Richard Devine sucks dwarf penis.
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Mr Frosty
from United Kingdom on 2002-02-18 19:07 [#00092836]
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Oh, and Caustic Window rules too
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Archrival
on 2002-02-18 19:08 [#00092839]
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Its no way near the finesse of drukqs.
YOU SERIOUSLY COMPARED Devine with AFX!?
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-02-18 19:08 [#00092841]
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I'm gonna go get some Richard Devine, Aperson seems to love that guy.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-02-18 19:24 [#00092856]
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i always thought richard d. james was more like the new beethoven than the new mozart - he identifies himself more with erik satie tho, and i guess it shows in the piano pieces; reminiscent of the gnossienes in ambience and melody.
as to his previous releases, i don't believe that the caustic window compilation is particularly groundbreaking, nor surfing on sine waves; i thought expert knob twiddlers was mainly dull and amateurish. even SAWII, thought astonishingly amazing, isn't groundbreaking really - think of the early ambient pioneers, and you can trace the lineage...
i would say his most innovative song would have to be
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Mr Frosty
from United Kingdom on 2002-02-18 19:40 [#00092863]
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pessimist!!
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-02-18 19:44 [#00092866]
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maybe you should consult your dictionary before throwing such a label upon me
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Darth manchu
from Cambridge (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-18 19:44 [#00092867]
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He said in an interview that drukqs was his last real commercial release. So i can expect him putting out more experimental stuff on his new label, thats if he can find mr jenkinson....
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-18 19:46 [#00092870]
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If he doesn't want to share his insanity tinted brilliance, I'll listen to otto von schirach, autechre, crunch, funkstorung, richard devine, phoenecia...
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