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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2002-02-18 10:15 [#00092391]
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What's happening to Richard D. James?
The genius, mozart of electronic music, the man who amazed and stunned in the 90's, the man who created new sounds, new experiments, he was the number 1.
He made the best drill'n'bass, the best techno-acid, the best ambient, some awesome piece of classic's music...
Now where is the genius? A part the new piano' songs tracks his music style is stopped to the mid of 90's.
Autechre are trying to explore new musical worlds and new musical experience but Richard is stopped.
Nobody can imagine what Richard could create with his talent and geniality... I hope AFX one day back to surprise and shock us, like he did in the past.
WooÆ’erAttack
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2002-02-18 10:22 [#00092393]
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expect the unexpected.
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wol
from wales (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-18 12:01 [#00092446]
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No what u mean man....
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Archrival
on 2002-02-18 12:07 [#00092449]
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Hes a genius, and always will be a genius.
Listen to his latest effort Drukqs, its pure skills and its proof that he really is a genius.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-02-18 12:08 [#00092450]
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Another sheepshagger on the messageboard. Dew butt. Where you from mun?
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-18 12:14 [#00092460]
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Yeah, what is it with the Wales/Canada/Sweden theme to this MB?...If we had a map it'ld be obvious something geographically fishy was going on...
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Binaural Tea
from Christmas City (Christmas Island) on 2002-02-18 12:58 [#00092497]
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lots of UK guys on here too. nothing fishy really.
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-18 13:11 [#00092511]
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Yeah, but if you got a big pair of scales and put all the Welsh/Canadians/Swedes on one side and everyone else on the other, I've a feeling the scales would a) not balance and b)possibly break...
Anyways, the welsh tend to be a bit porky anyway so this sort of experiment would be doomed...They also tend to fidget a lot, again mucking up any true scientific study of the .NU demographics....
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2002-02-18 13:15 [#00092515]
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Woofer I think the same way. Its just no the same anymore, whats with the new cd? I almost never listen to it, I find it to be SO boring it hurts sometimes. Hes just reinvented himself.... not made anything new... which is SAD.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-02-18 13:17 [#00092520]
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We aren't porky. We just like food... and beer... and more food... and abusing sheep... and then an after shag snack of the sheep we just rodgered... and then
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Binaural Tea
from Christmas City (Christmas Island) on 2002-02-18 13:19 [#00092522]
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I dont agree. And btw, remember that he is not releasing his most innovative tracks cause he doesnt wanna get ripped off. And i understand him. But as an afx fan im not very happy.
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-18 13:20 [#00092523]
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See...I told you sooo...
Anyone who fucks their own food before eating it deserves to spend half their life below ground and the other half singing about it in communual showers...
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Omneignotumus
on 2002-02-18 13:26 [#00092536]
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I find the new one to be excellent. Prepared piano is a nice logical step for Richard James. I wonder if he'll work with Kronos soon. I predict some very interesting collaborations to come.
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2002-02-18 13:27 [#00092540]
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But like Woofer says, its nothing new, its not too suprising, or atleast it shouldnt be to people who know and enjoy the past works.. ...... .... of RDJ.
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2002-02-18 13:28 [#00092542]
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Arch, probably you didn't understand what I mean. I like drukqs too, it's a good album but apart piano' song there's nothing new inside, there isn't much experimentation.
Drukqs is mostly drill'n'bass (probably old tracks rearranged), but there isn't the innovation who I'm waiting from Richard D. James.
When I speak of innovation I speak about experimental album like Confield by Autechre, not Drukqs or Go Plastic by Squarepusher. Time ago Richard used to invent new sounds and music style with a lot of inspiration, I hope he'll shock us again with new music.
WooÆ’er
for example: I bet gwarek2 is a really new afx track.
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2002-02-18 13:29 [#00092544]
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Yeah I totally know what you meant man...... see!
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-18 13:35 [#00092556]
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why oh why oh why are people disappointed with drukqs? its a fantastic record and one that no one could have predicted rich would release. as for not as innovative as autechre...what? for the love of god!!!...my only gripe is the artwork which is the worst sleeve ive ever come across-reflex -'boring'? have you no ears under that ridiculous bobble hat young man? drukqs is superb..unsure what you were expecting the twin to release...maybe a cure for cancer? at the end of the day he has eight pints of blood like the rest of us-he is not a genius as genius's do not exist...even leonardo da vinci who invented the helicoptor intended for it to be made from solid wood!!! . anyway i love drukqs. and the welsh.
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Zombiekev
from Ardmore (United States) on 2002-02-18 13:38 [#00092560]
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yeah we need some new AFX i wish he would release an ep or something just to keep us fans at ease for a while
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Binaural Tea
from Christmas City (Christmas Island) on 2002-02-18 13:41 [#00092564]
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We should write him and complain.. then again maybe not.
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2002-02-18 13:44 [#00092570]
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Probably you didn't read well my post or I wasn't enough clear.
I like drukqs very much, Vordhosbn in one of the best tracks who Richard made in his story but I'm speaking about innovation not about good tracks.
I could bet who Richard wrote Vordhosbn in 1996 and it could be a track of Hangable Autobulb.
Arched Maid Via RDJ could be a DRUKQS track and you wouldn't never know it.
Anyway I repeat who I like DRUKQS.
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Binaural Tea
from Christmas City (Christmas Island) on 2002-02-18 13:48 [#00092575]
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innovations mean good tracks in a way. ah, anyway, continue guys...
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Archrival
on 2002-02-18 13:49 [#00092578]
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Drukqs has some of his most detailed tracks ever, dunno what yall wanted?
I mean if you compare his drill n base tracks on drukqs with his old ones in detail you see a lot of difference.
I think Drukqs has some of the best tracks that he ever created like Ziggo, Ogiyja Switch, Cock10, 54 cymru, Vordhosbn, Meltphace etc etc
And I dont have to comment on the piano tracks wich is the most beautiful melodies he ever written except some SAW 2 tracks like Lichen, Rubarb etc.
Flame me ;)
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2002-02-18 13:51 [#00092580]
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Girl Boy song is a masterpiece song but it was innovative in the 1996 not today.
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2002-02-18 13:55 [#00092585]
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I don't like it that much either, his new drill style has too many samples thrown in, i rekcon, it sounds petty but it irritates me.
I'd rather some more ICBYD kinda stuff rather than showing off how detailed he can make something.
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-18 13:55 [#00092586]
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It's almost as if people were expecting Aphex to come up with a brand new note or to have found the missing chord...
Theres a lot more people working in electronic music nowadays so RDJs is bound not to feel as innovative as it once did...and it's 1000x times easier to get hold of any music nowadays than even 5yrs ago...
it's like trying to recreate your first Crack pipe or first trip...bound not to work..
I love drukqs...probably one of his best albums (SO FAR!!!...)...
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dingle berry
from on a small plastic chair breat (Haiti) on 2002-02-18 14:07 [#00092600]
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drukqs is a modernday masterpiece and the vinyl mixes well at halfspeed with lots of breaky hiphopy stuff!
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-02-18 14:12 [#00092608]
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I like Druqks. No I don't. Yes I do. Oh bollox. I haven't even bought it yet.
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Peter File
from the future!!! Ooooh chase me! on 2002-02-18 14:16 [#00092610]
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He has so many machines, Richard.
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Laserbeak
from Netherlands, The on 2002-02-18 14:17 [#00092611]
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The Mozart of electronic music??? Why? Have you studied Mozart's music? I think he still makes the best Drill'n'Bass I've heard. I'm only a bit disappointed with some of the piano pieces...
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-18 14:55 [#00092629]
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see i dont understand how can you possibly not dig the piano stuff for example if you love what rich has done in the past? now i admit i know fuck all about playing any type of instrument, so from a technical point of view, i dunno, they may be floored, but they still sound lush-just like anything as moody and gorgoeus off saw2? and as for the drill and bass stuff, can you not see the technical and complexity of these composistions? how can they be deemed boring? i buy loads of drill and bass and still seek out the harder spectrum of old skool drum n bass, and these tracks off drukqs are trully out there-they sound like nothing else!! would you like me to walk you through that again? i mean, am i missing something here? hello? H.E.L.L.O.????
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2002-02-18 15:26 [#00092655]
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I repeat who I like DRUKQS and it's one of Richard's best release... If Richard release this album in the 1996 it was innovative too...
I think who everybody here know who Richard told that some of the drukqs' tracks are old of 7-8 years, and the more recent Nanou2.
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Laserbeak
from Netherlands, The on 2002-02-18 15:27 [#00092657]
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Hello, I love his Drill'n'Bass stuff, read my post again. As for the piano tracks, I had just bought Claude Debussy and Maurice Ravel's piano pieces and when I listened to AFX's piano pieces afterwards I was a bit disappointed. I think Richard should stick with doing what he does best.
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Laserbeak
from Netherlands, The on 2002-02-18 15:35 [#00092663]
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There are lots of tiny details on the Drukqs album that are very innovative, they're just not as "in-your-face" as on Autechre's latest releases. I think Richard chose to make more pleasing tracks instead of the sound of machines going nuts.
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2002-02-18 15:39 [#00092666]
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Probably could be who the tiny details on Drukqs was 6-7 years old.
About Autechre's latest releases aren't my favourites, I prefer old Autechre's album like Amber or Incunabula.
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-18 15:41 [#00092668]
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aaaaahhh c'mon wooferattack-stop sitting on that fence, its full of splints
no mucking about now-do you like drukqs or not??
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2002-02-18 15:50 [#00092670]
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About me this is only an interesting conversation about drukqs, music and aphex twin with different point of view.
Anyway, my final valuation is who I like drukqs much but it isn't innovative, imho.
(I don't want offend and provoke anybody, it's only my point of view)
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-18 16:01 [#00092674]
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aaawww mate, you aint offendin anyone-i was only joking with you earlier..at the end of the day it dont really matter-its cool to have something like this MB where we can chew the fat and talk about any old shit-aphexs work is so complex that its bound to divide peoples views-you wont get that on the corrs MB or kylies Mb would you? no fair play to your views mate ;>
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D-Hex
from Blue Springs Missouri (United States) on 2002-02-18 16:02 [#00092675]
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Yes drill and bass bored me to death. I think it is a very lazy style of music, it all sounds alike to me.
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2002-02-18 16:09 [#00092683]
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totally agree... ken. btw, do you prefer old kylie stuff or new kylie stuff? ehehe ;)
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-18 16:38 [#00092710]
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oh the old kylie stuff mate !!!!...although the aussie songstress queen of pop is starting to look a bit hagard these days...she looks about 57 in her new vids!!!!! ;>
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-02-18 16:40 [#00092711]
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Are you mad?!! She looks better than ever.
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alienworkshop
from Claymont (United States) on 2002-02-18 16:45 [#00092716]
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JESUS, richard said it himself that drukqs wasnt a good album, he said he just released that as his last album for warp records. So, he just got that shit out of the way, you know, to make good music, woofer, you dont have to revolutionize the entire genre with every album you make...
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-18 16:49 [#00092720]
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oh please jonesy-she looks like what she is -an old pop whore that has to have injections in her face every ten seconds to stop the wrinkles arguing for surface space-she looks dog awful these days!!!, fair enough, she still has it going down in the ass dept, but her face looks like someones been chopping wood on it.
now Natalie Imbruglia -there is a fantastic looking female.
c'mon then-tell me how wrong i am....
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Laserbeak
from Netherlands, The on 2002-02-18 16:51 [#00092721]
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Normal Drum'n'Bass sounds more alike IMHO. Not to mention hiphop, house, industrial, Acid, etc, etc. I find the rhythms on Drukqs much more diverse than for example Surfing on sine waves or SAW1...
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-02-18 16:53 [#00092723]
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Now, now Kenneth. She's a very beautiful woman. Granted, so is Natalie but you must pay homage to the older Aussie ladies. Besides I saw you sneaking into that panto in Brum the other year when Madge from Neighbours was appearing so...
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-18 16:54 [#00092725]
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yeah but what about kylies ancient looks? fuck aphex twin and drukqs, what about kylies lunar visage???!!! SHE LOOKS TERRIBLE THESE DAYS!!!
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-02-18 16:55 [#00092726]
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So attractive women have to look about 20 then?
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Laserbeak
from Netherlands, The on 2002-02-18 16:56 [#00092727]
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Do you really take Rich's interviews seriously? He always says his albums are crap. He did that with Come to daddy, SAW2, etc...
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-18 16:56 [#00092728]
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YOU FUCKER JONESY!! IS IT YOU WHO'S BEEN FOLLOWING ME AROUND!!! AARRGGHH!! AT LAST!!! I WOULDNT MIND, BUT ITS THE EXCREMENT THAT YOU KEEP PUSHING THROUGH THE LETTER BOX THAT GETS ON MY TITS!!
besides i would describe madge as a graceful actress with grace, beaty, and a voice like sharp gravel...
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-02-18 16:59 [#00092730]
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Shit. I knew my cover would be blown sooner or later, but...
Madge has nowt on Helen Daniels.
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