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           WooferAttack
             from Milano (Italy) on 2002-02-18 09:52 [#00092368]
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 Finally last Saturday my girlfriend gave me Confield, last  work of Autechre.
  I listen it only 2 times and I need more time for a correct  valuation.
  My first impression is that these two guys has a great  talent, a great fantasy and an enormous courage.
  As you know their new kind of music isn't my favourite, I  prefer the melodies of old AE albums, etc... but I must  admit who they're really innovative and take their risks to  make all these experimets.
  They're touching the edges of the electronic music...
  I've a great esteem for Autechre and I think RICHARD D.  JAMES must have a little bit of AUTECHRE courage for  experiment something new and release new stuff, and when I  say "new" I mean "new" (I like drukqs but most of the songs  are olds).
 
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           nacmat
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good girlfriend you have if she gets confield for you...  mine bought me amnesiac (radiohead) but she doesnt know  autechre or aphex so she wouldnt be able of buying them 
 
  
         
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           Phobiazero
             from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2002-02-18 10:00 [#00092375]
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Finally someone who admits that Confield is 'genial' even  tho he does not really like the style/genre himself. 
 
  
         
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           WooferAttack
             from Milano (Italy) on 2002-02-18 10:01 [#00092378]
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Honestly I put the cd in their hand... and I said "Honey,  make this present to me, please..." 
 
  
         
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           nacmat
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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
  yea i should do that.... man how it didnt occure to me
 
  
         
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           Phobiazero
             from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2002-02-18 10:02 [#00092382]
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Haha, Woofer... that was funny. :-)
 
  
         
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           WooferAttack
             from Milano (Italy) on 2002-02-18 13:58 [#00092594]
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...mhm... This album is starting to like me always more...  it's very, very interesting... 
 
  
         
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           Phobiazero
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Cfern and Pen Expers are my favs.
 
  
         
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           Laserbeak
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I'm still wondering about the snorring in the track Uviol.  Is it sampled snorring or are the beats sequenced so that it  sounds like snorring? Anyway I like half of the album. 
 
  
         
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           Cheffe1979
             from fuck (Austria) on 2002-02-18 14:50 [#00092626]
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Eidetic Casein is my fav. There is another song behind which comes through several times; it sounds as some broken robots with  much to big hands are trying to dj but the damn machines  always break together. 
 
  
         
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           Cheffe1979
             from fuck (Austria) on 2002-02-18 14:50 [#00092627]
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or maybe not :-)
 
  
         
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I'm enjoing Uviol and Lentic Catachresis... 
 
  
         
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           D-Hex
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Can someone explain what confield sounds like???  Are there  any constant beats or is it like a 'noise' album. 
 
  
         
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it is a masterpiece!!!! its music  its like touching textures without using your touch
 
  
         
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i think cfern and pen expers are my favs too.  the album is  hard to describe, strange new textures and time signatures  that i cant identify and you just have to hear it.  its a  masterpiece for sure. 
 
  
         
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           Laserbeak
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It sounds like granular synthesis bouncing blips, creepy  background textures and uncommon time signatures. 
 
  
         
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           pachi
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it's a challenge, but once overcome, it's ultimately  satisfying. 
 
  
         
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           Inverted Whale
             from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2003-04-16 01:04 [#00652676]
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Confield is, in my opinion, the worst album that I've ever  heard of any genre.
 
  After more than a year of listening, the programmed noises,  clicks, beats and samples are still an endless boring  progression of programmed noises, clicks, beats and  samples.
 
  The release of this album was the ultimate joke on the  electronic music community. If you don't like it, of course  you just haven't 'gotten it' yet. If you do like it, and it  becomes your favorite Autechre album or even your favorite  album of all time, this, along with a few coy  mentions of Merzbow, becomes your ticket to joining the  message board elite.
 
  Learning to like it is a bit like being programmed by a  religious cult. You didn't know exactly why you didn't like  it before, but since it 'grew on you' you can't recall  exactly why it sucked before and now it's the best thing  since Internet porn, or at least since Chiastic Slide.
 
  Lest this post be entirely negative, I did find that the  Confield CD, when dangled from a tree branch and gently  twirling in the breeze, was an effective way of keeping the  birds from eating the summer grass seed I just planted in  the yard.
 
  I'm going to swap my neighbor's daughter's Celine Dion CD  with Confield for a laugh, she likes to sing along to her  Celine. This is a fitting end for this aborted pile of  poop.
 
  And yes, I am an idiot for taking this long to reach this  conclusion. 
 
  
         
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           Duble0Syx
             from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2003-04-16 01:06 [#00652677]
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I'm gonna have to second that.  Confield=Poo
 
  
         
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           Crocomire
             from plante (United States) on 2003-04-16 01:14 [#00652681]
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wicked genius. i like cfern, pen expers, and sim gishel 
 
  
         
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           Duble0Syx
             from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2003-04-16 01:15 [#00652682]
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I'm not quite sure what there is to like.
 
  
         
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           Crocomire
             from plante (United States) on 2003-04-16 01:15 [#00652684]
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sim gishel, you can feel the bass almost as much as you hear  it, i mean you need to play it thru a good amp on like 15"  subwoofers. 
 
  
         
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           Crocomire
             from plante (United States) on 2003-04-16 01:16 [#00652685]
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too bad for you good for me
 
  
         
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           Duble0Syx
             from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2003-04-16 01:18 [#00652686]
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I have.  I still sounds crappy.  I'd rather listen to some  techno bass crew,  It sounds much better on 15" woofers than  confield.  I don't think any speakers could make this sound  good, or any drug. 
 
  
         
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           Morton
             from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-04-16 01:22 [#00652689]
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don't overreact man, some like it some don't don't assume that everyone who likes it is just 'pretending  to like it',
  of course there are some who just say they like it, but not  everyone is that pathetic 
 
  
         
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           Duble0Syx
             from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2003-04-16 01:27 [#00652694]
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I don't see what thrills people about venetian snares  eithor.  It all sounds like shit to me.  Thats just my  opinion, but I don't see what enjoyment or "Art" one could  hear in it.  I've tried to listen to it, and it just sounds  like Poo.  I still love Incunabula and Tri-Repetae.  But  baghkndfg to confield.  Oh well. 
 
  
         
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           Inverted Whale
             from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2003-04-16 01:28 [#00652696]
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But this is my point and I feel strongly about it - if you  really enjoy repeated listenings to Confield you are
 
  * only pretending to like it to be cool, or * brain damaged or on drugs, or * not human
 
  
         
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           Duble0Syx
             from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2003-04-16 01:31 [#00652698]
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           Crocomire
             from plante (United States) on 2003-04-16 01:32 [#00652699]
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man you people are pissed cuz you couldn't like Confield!  chill!
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           Morton
             from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-04-16 01:33 [#00652701]
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well.. that'll be the third choice then.. since the other two don't count for me :)
  really, i don't see what the big deal is, it's all about opinions right? can't someone just like  something you don't like?
 
  in fact i listen to this album especially at evenings when  i'm allone at my room, 'cause i know (nearly) no-one i know  likes it, so i'm not trying to show of to someone or  something
  i really enjoy listening to this, i'm sorry i have never known that i'm not a human 'cause of that
 
  
         
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           Cheffe1979
             from fuck (Austria) on 2003-04-16 01:37 [#00652703]
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i do listen to it every other day and i do enjoy it i don't like the pretentious talking about 'getting' it or  something. it's nothing i have to do for the music, it does  it for me. that album effects me emotionally like only few  others, maybe the new radiohead or 'yoshimi' from the  flaming lips (both only recently)
  it's organic, there is no intellectual battle to win against  yourself or something. 
 
  
         
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           acidophilus
             from the gates of dawn on 2003-04-16 01:37 [#00652705]
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           AlbertoBalsalm
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it's so far beyond overrated it makes me mad. it doesn't  take talent to make this music nonesense, although it's  undeniable that autechre have good talent considering how  good some of their old albums are. fuck confield!!...and  draft (thats my opinion:))  
 
  
         
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           acidophilus
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           Cheffe1979
             from fuck (Austria) on 2003-04-16 01:40 [#00652708]
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           Ophecks
             from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-04-16 01:40 [#00652709]
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Confield is amazing, and Inverted Whale is hurting my  feelings with his hate crusade!  
 
  
         
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           acidophilus
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this discussion will go nowhere... everyone is entitled to  like whatever they want, but i think it's wrong saying  someone is brain damaged just because you don't agree.
 
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           AlbertoBalsalm
             from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2003-04-16 01:41 [#00652711]
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it takes skillz, not artistic talent to make a sort of album  as confield is 
 
  
         
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           Morton
             from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-04-16 01:42 [#00652713]
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aah i thought you meant me :) (maybe i'm tellin' you something you know already, but) do  you know about the 'follow-up' function?
  you can click the red number on top of someone's reply, that  way people can see who you're replying to
  (look in my dark-yellow bar behind 'Addict' |, it sais:  "Follow-up to ...")
 
  :) man, i really feel stupid now :P
 
  
         
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           acidophilus
             from the gates of dawn on 2003-04-16 01:44 [#00652714]
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yeah, i know... i just accidentally clicked the follow-up #  in the follow-up line instead of in the first line... :)
 
  haha! confusing...
 
  
         
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           Cheffe1979
             from fuck (Austria) on 2003-04-16 01:45 [#00652716]
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no, you can't do pen expers just with skills, nor the other  tracks
  bine is a masterpiece, oh well i could list all the tracks  now
  if it isn't for you that's fine, i don't like alberto  balsalm for example 
 
 
 
  
         
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           Crocomire
             from plante (United States) on 2003-04-16 01:51 [#00652722]
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my thoughts on "getting" music
  when i say "getting" music, i mean this: usually when i  first hear an album, afterwards i usually can't remember how  the songs went. most times it takes me a few listens to tell  if i like something or not. when i "get" a song i become  familiar with it and it passes my "test", meaning i like it. 
 
  
         
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           Crocomire
             from plante (United States) on 2003-04-16 01:54 [#00652726]
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art is subjective
 
  
         
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           Cfern
             from Sacto (United States) on 2003-04-16 03:01 [#00652757]
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f you really enjoy repeated listenings to Confield you are
  * only pretending to like it to be cool, or * brain damaged or on drugs, or * not human
  what  about *4  your mom blew me  and i cumed in her  face.....  
 
  theres nothing to get ... if you don't like it well fine  but...lay off our case if we happed to love  autechre.....this is a freakin fan message board for christs  sake... 
 
  
         
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           Morgoth
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I like it, pretending is not the case as I play the CD while  driving the car on my own for instance. I never play it with  anyone near me, as most people I know can' stand it. So it's  not a case of being cool.
 
  Not on drugs, brain damaged could be...
  Not human? interesting hypothesis, but my girlfriend would  probably disagree. 
 
  
         
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           Cfern
             from Sacto (United States) on 2003-04-16 03:19 [#00652775]
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 i was quoteing inverted whale
  it's one of my favorite albumns of all time... just the  aducity of saying we would listen to albumn to prove we were  or cool or something real pissed me off....   like we can  even play confield around other people;.... 
 
  
         
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           hyakusen
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about Confield... after listening this album for first time i was  confussed...and i put it on shelf for a long long time...
  then...after few months and after listening to earlier ae  album ( like EP7 , or Tri ) i put Confield to cd rack ...and  i was confused again , but satisfied as well...this is the  best way to learn what Ae are , and what kind of music they  love....
  to understand Confield doesn't mean to like it...just listen  to it for a few times without any emotions , be cold like  sounds on this album are...then turn it offf , think for a  while and liste to it again..repeat this for a few  days....then maybe you will understand why Ae is so  "awesome"
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           hyakusen
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or in the other way : try to do something  , i dont know  what , anything , learn  write , talk , and let the Confield  play in background , not too loud of course...
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           Morgoth
             from Stella-town (Belgium) on 2003-04-16 03:39 [#00652803]
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sorry, didn't read entire toppic with enough attention. My  fault. 
 
  
         
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           WooferAttack
             from Milano (Italy) on 2003-04-16 03:43 [#00652808]
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Confield is great album who I listen only in special  occasions. I turn off all the lights, I close eyes and I  enter in a special meditate state of mind.
  Track1, is amazing... the piano melody who grows in the  backgorund is full of solitude and sadness.  
 
  
         
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