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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2002-02-18 09:52 [#00092368]
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Finally last Saturday my girlfriend gave me Confield, last work of Autechre.
I listen it only 2 times and I need more time for a correct valuation.
My first impression is that these two guys has a great talent, a great fantasy and an enormous courage.
As you know their new kind of music isn't my favourite, I prefer the melodies of old AE albums, etc... but I must admit who they're really innovative and take their risks to make all these experimets.
They're touching the edges of the electronic music...
I've a great esteem for Autechre and I think RICHARD D. JAMES must have a little bit of AUTECHRE courage for experiment something new and release new stuff, and when I say "new" I mean "new" (I like drukqs but most of the songs are olds).
WooÆ’erAttack
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nacmat
on 2002-02-18 09:58 [#00092371]
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good girlfriend you have if she gets confield for you... mine bought me amnesiac (radiohead) but she doesnt know autechre or aphex so she wouldnt be able of buying them
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2002-02-18 10:00 [#00092375]
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Finally someone who admits that Confield is 'genial' even tho he does not really like the style/genre himself.
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2002-02-18 10:01 [#00092378]
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Honestly I put the cd in their hand... and I said "Honey, make this present to me, please..."
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nacmat
on 2002-02-18 10:02 [#00092381]
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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
yea i should do that.... man how it didnt occure to me
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2002-02-18 10:02 [#00092382]
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Haha, Woofer... that was funny. :-)
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2002-02-18 13:58 [#00092594]
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...mhm... This album is starting to like me always more... it's very, very interesting...
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2002-02-18 14:41 [#00092620]
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Cfern and Pen Expers are my favs.
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Laserbeak
from Netherlands, The on 2002-02-18 14:44 [#00092621]
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I'm still wondering about the snorring in the track Uviol. Is it sampled snorring or are the beats sequenced so that it sounds like snorring? Anyway I like half of the album.
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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2002-02-18 14:50 [#00092626]
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Eidetic Casein is my fav. There is another song behind which comes through several times; it sounds as some broken robots with much to big hands are trying to dj but the damn machines always break together.
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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2002-02-18 14:50 [#00092627]
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or maybe not :-)
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2002-02-18 15:29 [#00092658]
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I'm enjoing Uviol and Lentic Catachresis...
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D-Hex
from Blue Springs Missouri (United States) on 2002-02-18 16:24 [#00092702]
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Can someone explain what confield sounds like??? Are there any constant beats or is it like a 'noise' album.
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nacmat
on 2002-02-18 17:18 [#00092738]
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it is a masterpiece!!!! its music its like touching textures without using your touch
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Canerfold
from Minneappleseed (United States) on 2002-02-18 17:27 [#00092741]
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i think cfern and pen expers are my favs too. the album is hard to describe, strange new textures and time signatures that i cant identify and you just have to hear it. its a masterpiece for sure.
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Laserbeak
from Netherlands, The on 2002-02-18 17:28 [#00092742]
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It sounds like granular synthesis bouncing blips, creepy background textures and uncommon time signatures.
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2002-02-18 18:55 [#00092816]
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it's a challenge, but once overcome, it's ultimately satisfying.
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2003-04-16 01:04 [#00652676]
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Confield is, in my opinion, the worst album that I've ever heard of any genre.
After more than a year of listening, the programmed noises, clicks, beats and samples are still an endless boring progression of programmed noises, clicks, beats and samples.
The release of this album was the ultimate joke on the electronic music community. If you don't like it, of course you just haven't 'gotten it' yet. If you do like it, and it becomes your favorite Autechre album or even your favorite album of all time, this, along with a few coy mentions of Merzbow, becomes your ticket to joining the message board elite.
Learning to like it is a bit like being programmed by a religious cult. You didn't know exactly why you didn't like it before, but since it 'grew on you' you can't recall exactly why it sucked before and now it's the best thing since Internet porn, or at least since Chiastic Slide.
Lest this post be entirely negative, I did find that the Confield CD, when dangled from a tree branch and gently twirling in the breeze, was an effective way of keeping the birds from eating the summer grass seed I just planted in the yard.
I'm going to swap my neighbor's daughter's Celine Dion CD with Confield for a laugh, she likes to sing along to her Celine. This is a fitting end for this aborted pile of poop.
And yes, I am an idiot for taking this long to reach this conclusion.
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Duble0Syx
from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2003-04-16 01:06 [#00652677]
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I'm gonna have to second that. Confield=Poo
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Crocomire
from plante (United States) on 2003-04-16 01:14 [#00652681]
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wicked genius. i like cfern, pen expers, and sim gishel
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Duble0Syx
from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2003-04-16 01:15 [#00652682]
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I'm not quite sure what there is to like.
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Crocomire
from plante (United States) on 2003-04-16 01:15 [#00652684]
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sim gishel, you can feel the bass almost as much as you hear it, i mean you need to play it thru a good amp on like 15" subwoofers.
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Crocomire
from plante (United States) on 2003-04-16 01:16 [#00652685]
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too bad for you good for me
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Duble0Syx
from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2003-04-16 01:18 [#00652686]
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I have. I still sounds crappy. I'd rather listen to some techno bass crew, It sounds much better on 15" woofers than confield. I don't think any speakers could make this sound good, or any drug.
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-04-16 01:22 [#00652689]
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don't overreact man, some like it some don't don't assume that everyone who likes it is just 'pretending to like it',
of course there are some who just say they like it, but not everyone is that pathetic
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Duble0Syx
from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2003-04-16 01:27 [#00652694]
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I don't see what thrills people about venetian snares eithor. It all sounds like shit to me. Thats just my opinion, but I don't see what enjoyment or "Art" one could hear in it. I've tried to listen to it, and it just sounds like Poo. I still love Incunabula and Tri-Repetae. But baghkndfg to confield. Oh well.
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2003-04-16 01:28 [#00652696]
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But this is my point and I feel strongly about it - if you really enjoy repeated listenings to Confield you are
* only pretending to like it to be cool, or * brain damaged or on drugs, or * not human
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Duble0Syx
from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2003-04-16 01:31 [#00652698]
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He does have a good point.
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Crocomire
from plante (United States) on 2003-04-16 01:32 [#00652699]
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man you people are pissed cuz you couldn't like Confield! chill!
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-04-16 01:33 [#00652701]
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well.. that'll be the third choice then.. since the other two don't count for me :)
really, i don't see what the big deal is, it's all about opinions right? can't someone just like something you don't like?
in fact i listen to this album especially at evenings when i'm allone at my room, 'cause i know (nearly) no-one i know likes it, so i'm not trying to show of to someone or something
i really enjoy listening to this, i'm sorry i have never known that i'm not a human 'cause of that
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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2003-04-16 01:37 [#00652703]
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i do listen to it every other day and i do enjoy it i don't like the pretentious talking about 'getting' it or something. it's nothing i have to do for the music, it does it for me. that album effects me emotionally like only few others, maybe the new radiohead or 'yoshimi' from the flaming lips (both only recently)
it's organic, there is no intellectual battle to win against yourself or something.
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acidophilus
from the gates of dawn on 2003-04-16 01:37 [#00652705]
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you must be joking? i hope...
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2003-04-16 01:38 [#00652706]
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it's so far beyond overrated it makes me mad. it doesn't take talent to make this music nonesense, although it's undeniable that autechre have good talent considering how good some of their old albums are. fuck confield!!...and draft (thats my opinion:))
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acidophilus
from the gates of dawn on 2003-04-16 01:38 [#00652707]
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that was ment for inverted whale.
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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2003-04-16 01:40 [#00652708]
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i don't feel the same for draft though
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-04-16 01:40 [#00652709]
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Confield is amazing, and Inverted Whale is hurting my feelings with his hate crusade!
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acidophilus
from the gates of dawn on 2003-04-16 01:40 [#00652710]
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this discussion will go nowhere... everyone is entitled to like whatever they want, but i think it's wrong saying someone is brain damaged just because you don't agree.
weird...
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2003-04-16 01:41 [#00652711]
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it takes skillz, not artistic talent to make a sort of album as confield is
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-04-16 01:42 [#00652713]
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aah i thought you meant me :) (maybe i'm tellin' you something you know already, but) do you know about the 'follow-up' function?
you can click the red number on top of someone's reply, that way people can see who you're replying to
(look in my dark-yellow bar behind 'Addict' |, it sais: "Follow-up to ...")
:) man, i really feel stupid now :P
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acidophilus
from the gates of dawn on 2003-04-16 01:44 [#00652714]
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yeah, i know... i just accidentally clicked the follow-up # in the follow-up line instead of in the first line... :)
haha! confusing...
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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2003-04-16 01:45 [#00652716]
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no, you can't do pen expers just with skills, nor the other tracks
bine is a masterpiece, oh well i could list all the tracks now
if it isn't for you that's fine, i don't like alberto balsalm for example
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Crocomire
from plante (United States) on 2003-04-16 01:51 [#00652722]
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my thoughts on "getting" music
when i say "getting" music, i mean this: usually when i first hear an album, afterwards i usually can't remember how the songs went. most times it takes me a few listens to tell if i like something or not. when i "get" a song i become familiar with it and it passes my "test", meaning i like it.
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Crocomire
from plante (United States) on 2003-04-16 01:54 [#00652726]
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art is subjective
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Cfern
from Sacto (United States) on 2003-04-16 03:01 [#00652757]
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f you really enjoy repeated listenings to Confield you are
* only pretending to like it to be cool, or * brain damaged or on drugs, or * not human
what about *4 your mom blew me and i cumed in her face.....
theres nothing to get ... if you don't like it well fine but...lay off our case if we happed to love autechre.....this is a freakin fan message board for christs sake...
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Morgoth
from Stella-town (Belgium) on 2003-04-16 03:12 [#00652770]
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I like it, pretending is not the case as I play the CD while driving the car on my own for instance. I never play it with anyone near me, as most people I know can' stand it. So it's not a case of being cool.
Not on drugs, brain damaged could be...
Not human? interesting hypothesis, but my girlfriend would probably disagree.
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Cfern
from Sacto (United States) on 2003-04-16 03:19 [#00652775]
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i was quoteing inverted whale
it's one of my favorite albumns of all time... just the aducity of saying we would listen to albumn to prove we were or cool or something real pissed me off.... like we can even play confield around other people;....
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-04-16 03:31 [#00652789]
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about Confield... after listening this album for first time i was confussed...and i put it on shelf for a long long time...
then...after few months and after listening to earlier ae album ( like EP7 , or Tri ) i put Confield to cd rack ...and i was confused again , but satisfied as well...this is the best way to learn what Ae are , and what kind of music they love....
to understand Confield doesn't mean to like it...just listen to it for a few times without any emotions , be cold like sounds on this album are...then turn it offf , think for a while and liste to it again..repeat this for a few days....then maybe you will understand why Ae is so "awesome"
ps.s this is only my opinion
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-04-16 03:37 [#00652798]
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or in the other way : try to do something , i dont know what , anything , learn write , talk , and let the Confield play in background , not too loud of course...
...the impressions soon will appear in your head ...
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Morgoth
from Stella-town (Belgium) on 2003-04-16 03:39 [#00652803]
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sorry, didn't read entire toppic with enough attention. My fault.
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2003-04-16 03:43 [#00652808]
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Confield is great album who I listen only in special occasions. I turn off all the lights, I close eyes and I enter in a special meditate state of mind.
Track1, is amazing... the piano melody who grows in the backgorund is full of solitude and sadness.
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