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sneakattack
on 2005-05-24 03:24 [#01610594]
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I recommend everyone goes and spends a shitload of time reading things on wikipedia. I've been there the last two hours.. it has been ferociously glorious. that is all. zermelo-fraenkel
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-05-24 03:24 [#01610597]
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wanna give us a hint where to start?
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-05-24 03:26 [#01610598]
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i just clicked off the wikipedia page i had open to open this up.
wikipedia is the biz.
I read for ages about Feynmann and linked articles a while ago, tolstoyed. started off on perpetual motion, and worked from there.
I was just reading about MAX/MSP. interesting.
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2005-05-24 03:29 [#01610601]
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it's great but I always worry that the information is wrong
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2005-05-24 03:31 [#01610603]
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http://www.wikipedia.org/
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-05-24 03:32 [#01610605]
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stunning post
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Matvey
from Kiev (Ukraine) on 2005-05-24 03:48 [#01610618]
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thank you this was helpful indeed. reading about Max/MSP is a good idea, as well as about PD.
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sneakattack
on 2005-05-24 04:00 [#01610623]
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just take anything you want to know about and keep following links.
I worry that it's wrong too, but for instance right now I'm reading math, so if anything is fallacious, I can catch it. The worst that can happen is that something is mislabeled; not a big deal.
for the most part it is insanely accurate. I've known a few people that troll it, but yeah
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2005-05-24 04:07 [#01610631]
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For example, it makes WATTM sound like a music discussion forum.
I read the Arafat article I think it was and it said 'this article has been flagged as biased' or something... that makes me less trusting as well
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sneakattack
on 2005-05-24 04:17 [#01610641]
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Either way, it's still definitely the best prolonged activity I perform on the internet. my english rules.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-05-24 04:29 [#01610658]
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it's good there's messages like these at the top though.
It means there's intense discussion going on amongst wikipedia contributors about specific articles - their wording and content.
brilliant. i love it. don't see why it would make you feel less trusting: an encyclopedia you buy, or is not "open", is going to be far more biased (since people can't argue over the content, and reach a happy medium) than wikipedia.
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Neodoxy
from Sydney on 2005-05-24 06:22 [#01610711]
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The Game
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-24 07:37 [#01610746]
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I have to say I'm a big fan of Wiki. Nothing to add past that tho!
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-05-24 07:38 [#01610750]
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this came in real handy as i need some info about various music scenes and wikipedia is perfect for that info!
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-05-24 07:52 [#01610765]
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wtf
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2005-05-24 07:53 [#01610766]
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you must have played The Game?
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-05-24 08:25 [#01610792]
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i do this sometimes.. its a good way to learn, however the credibility is very questionable, nevertheless good fun if your bored or stuck.
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-24 08:42 [#01610810]
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Yes it is my first port of call when I need to know 'stuff'
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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2005-05-24 12:35 [#01610984]
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dammit
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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2005-05-24 12:36 [#01610985]
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i have never read any scientific error or something like that over there. it's just politics which is a problematic field, naturally.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-24 13:35 [#01611024]
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I regard this as a very profound and important achievement of humans. The knowledge of a group is vastly superior to any single individual and the content tends to reflect this. The only way I can imagine it being better is if entries were allowed to be infinitely long and detailed instead of encyclopedicly brief (it could still be organized in a hierarchical way so one isn't bogged down with information) If anyone knows some bizarre obscure thing they can add it, and bogus information really does get weeded out quite quick. I liked reading about bloods and crips recently. Also a good place to start is "free content", a wonderfully altrustic concept at the heart of wikipedia (and at the heart of doom2 sorta, hence the huge awesome assortment of level editors and things).
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-24 13:38 [#01611026]
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"no legal restriction has been placed that significantly interferes with people's freedom to... improve"
That's the thing.. improving culture. The potential of this altruistic group strategy is awesome.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-24 13:40 [#01611028]
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Also it's interesting that google orders their search results with sites with the most links or something first, and since wikipedia is hella linked it really got a google "bomb" burst.
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2005-05-24 13:41 [#01611030]
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who are you and what have you done to ian?
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-24 13:42 [#01611031]
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The internet is so young and this is really the most interesting thing on it right now in my opinion, with potential to evolve. Next robots will be taught on it etc. Fuck all schools should be replaced by wikipedia.
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-05-24 13:42 [#01611032]
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man, ian noll sure does like him some encyclopedias.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-24 13:44 [#01611034]
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HEY! Everyone knows which moderator isn't pulling their weight around here. You had better shape up.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-05-24 13:44 [#01611035]
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yeah, it's really interesting to do this... just keep clicking links and learning about stuff. i came across one or two things that were definitely incorrect, but i didn't do anything about it.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-24 13:46 [#01611038]
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Those incorrect things were probably things I contributed.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-05-24 13:47 [#01611041]
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yeah, come to think of it, it was the entry about ian knoll's shirt... and it said that the shirt was purple. that was you, eh?
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-24 13:53 [#01611054]
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I said incorrect information. The purpleness of my one and only shirt is generally accepted as fact by all modern scholars who take themselves seriously.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-05-24 13:56 [#01611060]
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those scholars were all laughed out of their respective positions for their butterfly-devolution theories. with good reason. this information is controversial at best and disputed by several. in short, we need real, tangible proof! hard evidence.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-24 14:02 [#01611073]
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You have seen the evidence of a picture of my foot. In this picture, the shirt was not orange, yellow, red, or anything other than purple. Of course it was not purple either and, in fact, there was no visual reference, real or metaphorical, to any shirt at all whatsoever. Therefore the shirt must be purple.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-05-24 14:05 [#01611082]
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well... i can't argue with "science".
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