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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2005-05-21 13:00 [#01607399]
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This has probably been mentioned and this video that I'm about to post has also probably been mentioned. However. Fuck me. Yes, that's right. Fuck me. Bugger me backwards if you will. If you are not impressed by this video then you are probably a time traveller from the future who has seen better.
LAZY_AMAZING_KILLZONE_VIDEO
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staz
on 2005-05-21 13:02 [#01607400]
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It's CG.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2005-05-21 13:02 [#01607401]
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explain
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2005-05-21 13:11 [#01607415]
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If you don't watch this video then you'll wish you had for the rest of your days. I'll make sure of it.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2005-05-21 13:14 [#01607425]
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It's not actual gameplay, but it's a demo of what we should expect. There's a lot of debate about whether or not it's real-time (done with the engine), I would say it isn't. But I'd expect something very close to this, the PS3 is a real beast and Guerilla are ambitious and talented. Killzone 1 is pretty remarkable for a game running on a little 333mhz processor and shitty little video card. My favorite FPS since Perfect Dark, actually. I'm looking forward to Killzone 2 more than anything else.
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staz
on 2005-05-21 13:17 [#01607434]
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I've seen it.
It's CG.
Stuff may look like that this generation, but that would take so much work, the game would probably weigh in at about 2 hours worth of play.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2005-05-21 13:19 [#01607439]
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They should sell games just as hard drives
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-21 13:22 [#01607447]
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JOYJOYHAPPYJOY
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Aesthetics
from the IDM Kiosk on 2005-05-21 16:01 [#01607746]
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OMFG!
Those graphics are amazing, it's scary how real it gets!
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tridenti
from Milano (Italy) on 2005-05-21 16:06 [#01607753]
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IGN.com is cool site! especially for videos.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-05-21 16:15 [#01607764]
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is this one also made by the Dutchies?
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Aesthetics
from the IDM Kiosk on 2005-05-21 16:44 [#01607811]
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hehe, I wondered the same.
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brokephones
from Londontario on 2005-05-21 16:47 [#01607814]
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We can't know for sure until there is an official statement on the matter.
If it turns out to be realtime I will be happy.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-05-21 16:48 [#01607815]
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looks like they, Guerilla, are doing the second one - in fact, they have a lot of vacancies for Killzone 2: hm.
I've been thinking for quite a while now about contacting them and asking if and how they use writers - seeing as I'm studying to become a writer, I wouldn't mind writing for games!
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brokephones
from Londontario on 2005-05-21 16:49 [#01607818]
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Writing for games would be fantastic. Just make sure you don't work for id Software.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-05-21 16:49 [#01607819]
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looks like it.
although they don't specify KZ2, that is true..
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2005-05-21 16:52 [#01607824]
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If this does turn out to be realtime, I will feel very sheepish having just spent 275 dollars buying a top of the line video card for my computer, as I don't know if it would be able to handle a game with graphics THAT good... Anyone know the projected launch price of the PS3?
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Aesthetics
from the IDM Kiosk on 2005-05-21 16:56 [#01607826]
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Do it! I mean...what to loose eh?
What about that new game-academy, something for you aswell?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-05-21 17:06 [#01607834]
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I just sent them an e-mail, asking if they even use writers. :)
the only thing I could really do is write for a game or do translations from Dutch to English (which is something I certainly wouldn't mind to do to make some extra money), I can't do any of the real code-stuff. :)
one of the departments at my faculty is largely about designing games and I know from experience in working with them that they can REALLY use a few writers.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2005-05-21 17:20 [#01607846]
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Cool, good luck with that. Writing in games is like the final frontier... graphically, sonically, the gaming world is insanely rich. Games with good writing are still rare though. The writing isn't up to snuff with everything else yet. Case in point, Resident Evil 4, which I think might be pretty much the best game experience ever... if not for its cripplingly retarded script.
There's been so many heated arguments and insane debates on IGN about whether or not KZ2 is realtime or not. Some Sony spokespersons are saying it IS rendered by an engine, but with some little pre-rendered adornments. Nobody really knows yet. Personally I LOVE watching the flamewars.
I think the PS3 will be able to do these visuals, although obviously you can't get the AI and animation to be as precise and perfect as it is in that video.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-05-21 17:27 [#01607856]
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I agree - most writing in games ranges from 'piss poor' to 'almost okay' at best. the mistake most designers seem to make is to think about the writing "oh, we'll do that ourselves, how hard can it be".
very rarely do you see a person who solely works as a writer on a game - one of the few I can remember is Terri Brosius for "Thief: Deadly Shadows" and Marc Laidlaw on "Half-Life 2".
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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2005-05-21 17:52 [#01607888]
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hmm to bad they don't need someone to do some sounddesigning I wouldn't mind applying for that. or try atleast.
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2005-05-21 18:59 [#01607942]
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jesus fuck!
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2005-05-21 19:09 [#01607947]
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...............ooooooooooooooooooo...........ahhhhhhhhhhhhh hh. if that's real time... fucking hell, if thats rendered, meh.
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apydiagirls
from city (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-21 20:28 [#01607995]
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Sony always pull this shit. I can clearly remember the American goverment actually being afraid of what the PS2 was supposedly possible of before it arrived, ' a super computer'. Sony killed the Dreamcast with their PS2 hype and lies and I'm forever bitter about it! :) So yeah, this footage is amazing but it's rendered. The jump in quality is just far too great for this generation, I think I'm safe in saying the PS3 is not going to deliver these graphics as much as it would be nice to believe. If this was real time footage on a consumer console it would be on the national news and Sony wouldn't be so cagey about it either, they would be pushing it to fuck and saying "Yes, for sure. This is 100% real time footage from the game". Have they said that? No.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2005-05-21 20:50 [#01608007]
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thats a good point, and I think it pretty much settles this argument... or at least it does for me... there was a part of me really hoping that this could be in game, but like you said its just far too large a jump in quality... maybe the PS4 will be able to tackle it. :)
btw, I'll also be forever bitter about Sony killing the dreamcast, and for being such rich greedy bastards about paying game companies extra so that they will only code for them.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2005-05-21 20:52 [#01608008]
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did anyone else notice that that video has no crosshair in the center of the screen? unless they expect you to play through the actual game without one, it just points even more towards CGI.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2005-05-22 02:18 [#01608092]
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Tech demo 1:
LAZY_video
Tech demo 2:
LAZY_video
Unreal 2007 (Real-time):
LAZY_video
Fight Night (Real-time):
LAZY_video
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zero-cool
on 2005-05-22 02:41 [#01608097]
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oh dude sweet
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xf
from Australia on 2005-05-22 03:32 [#01608114]
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man, that's rad
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2005-05-22 03:37 [#01608118]
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OK in this video (below) the sony representative being interviewed says clearly that this is real time footage.
LAZY_realtime
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-05-22 03:48 [#01608121]
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I don't see how people should have so much trouble believing that's what it's going to look like... that killzone thingie is done on a computer, but they said that they had trouble emulating the ps3s cell processor, and that it IS realtime.
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Aesthetics
from the IDM Kiosk on 2005-05-22 04:13 [#01608133]
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I wish you the best of luck Alexander Peterhans! Will you be the new Tom Clancy?
Once you have some demo's you know where to find me eh ;)
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BoxBob-K23
from Finland on 2005-05-22 04:37 [#01608141]
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oh boy, thanks for the unreal clip! People are just gonna have to face that "pre-rendered CGI" is becoming an obsolete concept. Game graphics does it all.
That killzone demo is stunning, and even if the gameplay in the actual thing sucks, at least the graphics potential is there.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-22 04:55 [#01608144]
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Holy Shit. i was impressed before but now.... Fuck me; i really hope they put all that power to good use and include some quality games that actually have gameplay.
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zero-cool
on 2005-05-22 05:05 [#01608146]
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good
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apydiagirls
from city (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-22 07:33 [#01608207]
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An interesting little article about the PS3 cell chip's supposed performance.
Here
A bit of an eye opener if you think about it.
nice vids btw.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2005-05-22 07:37 [#01608210]
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I'm a fantasist
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-05-22 09:24 [#01608261]
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that made no sense.
gigaflop
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BoxBob-K23
from Finland on 2005-05-22 09:26 [#01608262]
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I didn't get that article, sounds like *conspiracy theory*...
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apydiagirls
from city (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-22 09:39 [#01608266]
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I thought what he was saying was pretty straightforward. Ok the terminolgy is complex but it seems to boil down to that IDM are claiming that one PS3 is more powerful than hardware costing half a million pounds. Until the PS3 comes out for sale, no one can really say anything about it's final performance. No one is doubting it is going to be one beast of a machine capable of some incredible looking games but the fact is, Sony now have a reputation for overhype and not being completely upfront about actual capabilities. We'll wait and see.
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apydiagirls
from city (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-22 09:41 [#01608268]
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I think I must be drunk, IDM? Terminolgy? I meant IBM and terminology of course.Sorry about that. :) Wish you could edit these things!
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brokephones
from Londontario on 2005-05-22 09:46 [#01608270]
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I can't wait for Square to announce their batch of next-gen games in development.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2005-05-22 09:46 [#01608271]
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*yawn* despite having good graphics it looked very uninteresting. and how did they manage to copy the Gamecube logo for their own?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-05-22 15:13 [#01608646]
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most people have forgotten the Gamecube, so they probably thought "who'd ever notice"?
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2005-05-22 15:19 [#01608650]
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tribenti will 'ave you for saying that
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tridenti
from Milano (Italy) on 2005-05-22 15:22 [#01608653]
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ehehe
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-05-22 15:30 [#01608657]
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tribenti is a bit of a bummer, eh..?
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tridenti
from Milano (Italy) on 2005-05-22 15:34 [#01608662]
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named also tridenty
copiright pomme de terre
:)
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2005-05-22 15:37 [#01608664]
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I was worried you weren't going to pick up on that
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