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brokephones
from Londontario on 2005-05-09 09:31 [#01592558]
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Holy shit I never knew it was so high.
Taken from here
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-05-09 09:33 [#01592560]
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we had the highest nr. of dead/population :(
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2005-05-09 09:33 [#01592561]
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Wow
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tridenti
from Milano (Italy) on 2005-05-09 09:34 [#01592562]
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:(
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-05-09 09:36 [#01592563]
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damn.
:(
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-09 09:37 [#01592567]
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man thats heavy:(
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big
from lsg on 2005-05-09 09:40 [#01592573]
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i thought it was 20 million actually, maybe deaths after the war too, actually i looks like they know little, seeing the combining of green and brown
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-05-09 09:40 [#01592574]
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holy jeez, so the combined death toll for WW2 is like 55 million?
that's a fucking lot of dead people.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2005-05-09 09:40 [#01592576]
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I just went and saw Downfall last night. Man, that's a long and stressful movie.
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big
from lsg on 2005-05-09 09:42 [#01592577]
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i believe we had the biggest percentage decimation of jews, like 70 % (decimation sounds kinda harsh, which it is actually) i dont know wether that's considering germany though
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big
from lsg on 2005-05-09 09:43 [#01592581]
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20th century was pretty bloody also aphex wrote icct hedral
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-05-09 09:44 [#01592582]
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yes 27 million soviets killed in world war 2. they bore the brunt of the casualties WINNING THE WAR IN EUROPE.
it really fucking pisses me off when americans refer to themselves as having "saved the brit's asses" in "DUBYA DUBYA TEW".
fucking arrogant pricks - it was the nation that was to become your sworn enemy in the cold war, Russia, that won the war. fucked if dropping an atomic bomb had anything to do with it - that was just revenge for pearl harbour (which DRAGGED america kicking and screaming into the war).
fucking PRICKS.
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-05-09 09:45 [#01592583]
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when i was in college there was one week where people stood up on the steps of the library at a podium and read the names of people who died in WW2 over some speakers in a monotone voice all day long for the entire week.
that was pretty hardcore i thought.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-05-09 09:46 [#01592585]
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you didn't watch saving private ryan did you..it was all there!
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-05-09 09:47 [#01592591]
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i think there is probably a formula for figuring out how long any given thread on xlt will turn anti-american.
sneakattack should figure it out sometime. he's good at maths.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-05-09 09:47 [#01592593]
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oh shit yeah, i forgot, the americans brought COMPASSION and TEARS and a sub-story of LOVE into the war.
fucking hell
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-05-09 09:48 [#01592595]
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it's terrible that all of those people died, but the soviets committed some serious atrocities at the end of the war. there was a lot of rapes and children slaughtered, they took who knows how many germans to their labour camps (similar to the ones the nazis had)... it was particularly vicious. i'm not saying you should feel sorry for the nazis, but i don't see how soviets torturing and killing civilians is any better than what the nazis did. you know, it was stalin...
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-05-09 09:49 [#01592598]
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war tends to bring out the worst in people.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-05-09 09:50 [#01592600]
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you're right there..stalin was responsible for more deaths than hitler, but it was mostly russians he was getting rid of which is even worse..it was the same in all communist countries..
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-05-09 09:51 [#01592601]
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it does, but it doesn't excuse it.
what the soviets did at the end of the war was pretty rough yes. my point still stands, however, that it was the soviets that turned the tide of war against the germans, and that any american fuckup who thinks otherwise should be given a good fucking slap
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big
from lsg on 2005-05-09 09:52 [#01592603]
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the thing is they didnt really have to and ussr was run by crazy stalin
japan did a 9/11 or them and then they jumped in, or was it that torpedo incident
without us support the outcome might have been different
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-05-09 09:53 [#01592604]
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Americans should all be herded up into groups and systematically exterminated.
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big
from lsg on 2005-05-09 09:53 [#01592605]
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wtf does it matter who got more deaths? be glad usa helped out anyway
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-05-09 09:58 [#01592617]
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it goes to show that the Russians bore the brunt of the casualties, and it's fact that most of those were army casualties. they were relentless driving the nazis back into europe.
and yet americans have the audacity and pure ignorance of the facts oh history (what the fuck, elusive/epohs/brokephones didn't know the soviet death toll was over 25m?!) and declare triumphantly that THEY won the war by dropping big fuck-off atomic bombs on two japanese cities, killing a few million innocent civilians, and plunging the world into eternal fear of nuclear war.
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-05-09 10:00 [#01592622]
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yep. i guess i should probably take back all the times i said that i won ww2.
sorry about that world.
oh yeah, and sorry that i dropped the bomb on ya too.
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Opto
on 2005-05-09 10:00 [#01592623]
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fact : 1 on 5 soldiers was killed by his companions during WWII.
that must have been one helluva mess.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-05-09 10:02 [#01592628]
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wait there..it wasn't entirely your fault!
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-05-09 10:04 [#01592630]
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he personally pushed the button on the enola gay that dropped the bomb tolstoyed, it's ALL epohs fault
and elusive and brokephones were in the back dancing to some 40s bebop
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-05-09 10:04 [#01592631]
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yeah, but i was born on this patch of dirt instead of some other peice of dirt, so i probably do deserve it.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-05-09 10:04 [#01592633]
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uh oh!!
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Opto
on 2005-05-09 10:05 [#01592635]
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you deserve good harsh spanking in your stretched anus, you salami jockey. and i will do this soon, youll see.
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-05-09 10:06 [#01592638]
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a/s/l ?
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Opto
on 2005-05-09 10:09 [#01592644]
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60 / David Hasslehof / pink boat of love
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-05-09 10:14 [#01592651]
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<3
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big
from lsg on 2005-05-09 10:24 [#01592670]
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well im not bothered by americans boasting, im worried by george w who thought he was another great war president, and now still is stupid in other ways, by thinking he now is the leader of the world
another fun fact: at times ussr soldiers had 1 rifle for 10 soldiers
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mrgypsum
on 2005-05-09 10:30 [#01592683]
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its so high because there was a shortage of weapons in russia - if you were a russian soldier you were told to pick up the guns of your fallen comrades and continues fighting, result you had to wait until many died in order to fight back and yes russia defeated germany - but the usa stopped japan -who had their eyes on russia. but whatever
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big
from lsg on 2005-05-09 10:35 [#01592694]
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duh, we all played call of duty :p
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mrgypsum
on 2005-05-09 10:41 [#01592699]
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actually WW2 is one of the most fondly remembered massacres that ever occured ....ever - its strange how millions and millions of people perished i calculated that the entire population of New England died in WW2, and yet it is the war the always thought of as "call to duty" "the right war" and its always refered to by american politicians when they want to get support for presend wars.
bush's axis of evil springs to mind
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big
from lsg on 2005-05-09 10:46 [#01592703]
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yes i guess the nazis are such perfect bad guys der untergang, or the downfall, was criticized alot in germany because it would have tried to give hitler a human face too much..
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mrgypsum
on 2005-05-09 10:58 [#01592711]
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yes, WW2 was perfect it had the perfect villain - look at what the us has now - we had saddam another perfect villian, but we caught him or whatever
but we have a new villain - bin laden - perfect
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big
from lsg on 2005-05-09 11:06 [#01592721]
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schwarzenegger would have caught him if he hadnt become govenour
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-05-09 11:26 [#01592733]
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well, think about it - propaganda aside... hitler was conquering europe and exterminating races of people. if the world hadn't intervened, where would we be now (i know, the world sucks now, but think about what it would be like if hitler had won the war)? imagine the ruins of europe in the control of a dictator who commits genocide on non-aryans...
saddam on the other hand, has this little country that was among the weakest in the region and doesn't pose a threat to any of his neighbors, and the superpower of the US goes in and destroys the place, grabbing dick cheney his fat contracts, killing all these innocent civilians in the face of world protest. if you can't figure out the difference between ww2 and the iraq invasion, you might be either borderline-retarded or a republican.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-05-09 11:27 [#01592735]
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i like this post.
there's hope for america yet.
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-05-09 11:28 [#01592738]
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iraq was pretty well off until gulf war 1 and the 12 years of sanctions that followed.
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brokephones
from Londontario on 2005-05-09 11:29 [#01592739]
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Subtract the ww2 soviet death toll from my country's population (as of the 2001 census) and you're left with only 3 million people. That put it into perspective for me.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-05-09 11:29 [#01592740]
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your point being?
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-05-09 11:30 [#01592742]
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yes, especially when we supplied them with the chemical gas that saddam used to kill his own citizens. they were really living it up then.
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mrgypsum
on 2005-05-09 11:30 [#01592743]
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i agree with you - but we use WW2 rhetoric and a general acceptance of that war to justify our present wars - if you study and scrutinize WW2 when you come down to it - it was nothing but a blood bath -on all sides.
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-05-09 11:32 [#01592745]
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that r40f's characterization of iraq as a helpless benign country was slightly flawed.
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-05-09 11:34 [#01592747]
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you can turn that into a glaring endorsement for the war if you want to, but that's not what it is.
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