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offline brokephones from Londontario on 2005-05-09 09:31 [#01592558]
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Holy shit I never knew it was so high.

Taken from here


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offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-05-09 09:33 [#01592560]
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we had the highest nr. of dead/population :(


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2005-05-09 09:33 [#01592561]
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Wow


 

offline tridenti from Milano (Italy) on 2005-05-09 09:34 [#01592562]
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:(


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2005-05-09 09:36 [#01592563]
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damn.

:(


 

offline hanal from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-09 09:37 [#01592567]
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man thats heavy:(


 

offline big from lsg on 2005-05-09 09:40 [#01592573]
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i thought it was 20 million actually, maybe deaths after the
war too, actually i looks like they know little, seeing the
combining of green and brown


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2005-05-09 09:40 [#01592574]
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holy jeez, so the combined death toll for WW2 is like 55
million?

that's a fucking lot of dead people.


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2005-05-09 09:40 [#01592576]
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I just went and saw Downfall last night. Man, that's a
long and stressful movie.


 

offline big from lsg on 2005-05-09 09:42 [#01592577]
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i believe we had the biggest percentage decimation of jews,
like 70 % (decimation sounds kinda harsh, which it is
actually) i dont know wether that's considering germany
though


 

offline big from lsg on 2005-05-09 09:43 [#01592581]
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20th century was pretty bloody
also aphex wrote icct hedral


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-05-09 09:44 [#01592582]
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yes 27 million soviets killed in world war 2. they bore the
brunt of the casualties WINNING THE WAR IN EUROPE.

it really fucking pisses me off when americans refer to
themselves as having "saved the brit's asses" in "DUBYA
DUBYA TEW".

fucking arrogant pricks - it was the nation that was to
become your sworn enemy in the cold war, Russia, that won
the war. fucked if dropping an atomic bomb had anything to
do with it - that was just revenge for pearl harbour (which
DRAGGED america kicking and screaming into the war).

fucking PRICKS.


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2005-05-09 09:45 [#01592583]
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when i was in college there was one week where people stood
up on the steps of the library at a podium and read the
names of people who died in WW2 over some speakers in a
monotone voice all day long for the entire week.

that was pretty hardcore i thought.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-05-09 09:46 [#01592585]
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you didn't watch saving private ryan did you..it was all
there!


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2005-05-09 09:47 [#01592591]
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i think there is probably a formula for figuring out how
long any given thread on xlt will turn anti-american.

sneakattack should figure it out sometime. he's good at
maths.


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-05-09 09:47 [#01592593]
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oh shit yeah, i forgot, the americans brought COMPASSION and
TEARS and a sub-story of LOVE into the war.

fucking hell


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2005-05-09 09:48 [#01592595]
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it's terrible that all of those people died, but the soviets
committed some serious atrocities at the end of the war.
there was a lot of rapes and children slaughtered, they took
who knows how many germans to their labour camps (similar to
the ones the nazis had)... it was particularly vicious.
i'm not saying you should feel sorry for the nazis, but i
don't see how soviets torturing and killing civilians is any
better than what the nazis did. you know, it was stalin...


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2005-05-09 09:49 [#01592598]
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war tends to bring out the worst in people.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-05-09 09:50 [#01592600]
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you're right there..stalin was responsible for more deaths
than hitler, but it was mostly russians he was getting rid
of which is even worse..it was the same in all communist
countries..


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-05-09 09:51 [#01592601]
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it does, but it doesn't excuse it.

what the soviets did at the end of the war was pretty rough
yes. my point still stands, however, that it was the soviets
that turned the tide of war against the germans, and that
any american fuckup who thinks otherwise should be given a
good fucking slap


 

offline big from lsg on 2005-05-09 09:52 [#01592603]
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the thing is they didnt really have to and ussr was run by
crazy stalin
japan did a 9/11 or them and then they jumped in, or was it
that torpedo incident
without us support the outcome might have been different


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2005-05-09 09:53 [#01592604]
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Americans should all be herded up into groups and
systematically exterminated.


 

offline big from lsg on 2005-05-09 09:53 [#01592605]
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wtf does it matter who got more deaths? be glad usa helped
out anyway


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-05-09 09:58 [#01592617]
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it goes to show that the Russians bore the brunt of the
casualties, and it's fact that most of those were army
casualties. they were relentless driving the nazis back into
europe.

and yet americans have the audacity and pure
ignorance of the facts oh history (what the fuck,
elusive/epohs/brokephones didn't know the soviet death toll
was over 25m?!) and declare triumphantly that THEY won the
war by dropping big fuck-off atomic bombs on two japanese
cities, killing a few million innocent civilians, and
plunging the world into eternal fear of nuclear war.



 

offline epohs from )C: on 2005-05-09 10:00 [#01592622]
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yep. i guess i should probably take back all the times i
said that i won ww2.

sorry about that world.

oh yeah, and sorry that i dropped the bomb on ya too.


 

offline Opto on 2005-05-09 10:00 [#01592623]
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fact : 1 on 5 soldiers was killed by his companions during
WWII.

that must have been one helluva mess.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-05-09 10:02 [#01592628]
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wait there..it wasn't entirely your fault!


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-05-09 10:04 [#01592630]
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he personally pushed the button on the enola gay that
dropped the bomb tolstoyed, it's ALL epohs fault

and elusive and brokephones were in the back dancing to some
40s bebop


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2005-05-09 10:04 [#01592631]
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yeah, but i was born on this patch of dirt instead
of some other peice of dirt, so i probably do deserve it.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-05-09 10:04 [#01592633]
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uh oh!!


 

offline Opto on 2005-05-09 10:05 [#01592635]
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you deserve good harsh spanking in your stretched anus, you
salami jockey. and i will do this soon, youll see.


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2005-05-09 10:06 [#01592638]
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a/s/l ?


 

offline Opto on 2005-05-09 10:09 [#01592644]
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60 / David Hasslehof / pink boat of love


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2005-05-09 10:14 [#01592651]
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<3


 

offline big from lsg on 2005-05-09 10:24 [#01592670]
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well im not bothered by americans boasting, im worried by
george w who thought he was another great war president, and
now still is stupid in other ways, by thinking he now is the
leader of the world

another fun fact: at times ussr soldiers had 1 rifle for 10
soldiers


 

offline mrgypsum on 2005-05-09 10:30 [#01592683]
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its so high because there was a shortage of weapons in
russia - if you were a russian soldier you were told to pick
up the guns of your fallen comrades and continues fighting,
result you had to wait until many died in order to fight
back and yes russia defeated germany - but the usa stopped
japan -who had their eyes on russia. but whatever


 

offline big from lsg on 2005-05-09 10:35 [#01592694]
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duh, we all played call of duty :p


 

offline mrgypsum on 2005-05-09 10:41 [#01592699]
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actually WW2 is one of the most fondly remembered massacres
that ever occured ....ever - its strange how millions and
millions of people perished i calculated that the entire
population of New England died in WW2, and yet it is the war
the always thought of as "call to duty" "the right war" and
its always refered to by american politicians when they want
to get support for presend wars.

bush's axis of evil springs to mind


 

offline big from lsg on 2005-05-09 10:46 [#01592703]
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yes
i guess the nazis are such perfect bad guys
der untergang, or the downfall, was criticized alot in
germany because it would have tried to give hitler a human
face too much..


 

offline mrgypsum on 2005-05-09 10:58 [#01592711]
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yes, WW2 was perfect it had the perfect villain - look at
what the us has now - we had saddam another perfect villian,
but we caught him or whatever

but we have a new villain - bin laden - perfect


 

offline big from lsg on 2005-05-09 11:06 [#01592721]
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schwarzenegger would have caught him if he hadnt become
govenour


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2005-05-09 11:26 [#01592733]
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well, think about it - propaganda aside... hitler was
conquering europe and exterminating races of people. if the
world hadn't intervened, where would we be now (i know, the
world sucks now, but think about what it would be like if
hitler had won the war)? imagine the ruins of europe in the
control of a dictator who commits genocide on non-aryans...

saddam on the other hand, has this little country that was
among the weakest in the region and doesn't pose a threat to
any of his neighbors, and the superpower of the US goes in
and destroys the place, grabbing dick cheney his fat
contracts, killing all these innocent civilians in the face
of world protest. if you can't figure out the difference
between ww2 and the iraq invasion, you might be either
borderline-retarded or a republican.


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-05-09 11:27 [#01592735]
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i like this post.

there's hope for america yet.


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2005-05-09 11:28 [#01592738]
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iraq was pretty well off until gulf war 1 and the 12 years
of sanctions that followed.


 

offline brokephones from Londontario on 2005-05-09 11:29 [#01592739]
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Subtract the ww2 soviet death toll from my country's
population (as of the 2001 census) and you're left with only
3 million people. That put it into perspective for me.



 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-05-09 11:29 [#01592740]
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your point being?


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2005-05-09 11:30 [#01592742]
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yes, especially when we supplied them with the chemical gas
that saddam used to kill his own citizens. they were really
living it up then.


 

offline mrgypsum on 2005-05-09 11:30 [#01592743]
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i agree with you - but we use WW2 rhetoric and a general
acceptance of that war to justify our present wars - if you
study and scrutinize WW2 when you come down to it - it was
nothing but a blood bath -on all sides.


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2005-05-09 11:32 [#01592745]
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that r40f's characterization of iraq as a helpless benign
country was slightly flawed.


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2005-05-09 11:34 [#01592747]
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you can turn that into a glaring endorsement for the war if
you want to, but that's not what it is.


 


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