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yes i've read the policies. it is clear we have our differences. i think it would be fair to leave it at that. my vote will be ineffectual anyway. |
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i really hope you're someone's multiple account. because if you aren't someone's idea of a joke, you are fucking stupid. |
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THE DARKIES ARE LOOSE! |
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ANDREDS AND FAAASANDS OF EM! |
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nice one ;) |
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Not to dig at you any more ol' cuntybaws, but i'd be interested to find out exactly where you stand on the BNP policy of Resettling The Undesirables. Do you think it would be in the best interests of the nation to eventually reduce the black and asian population to zero? I'd honestly like to know. |
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yeah what about the more rural of us that rely solely on taxis to get us home |
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with all the political correctness that has plagued this country, would i EVER be allowed to 'yes'? |
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rofl |
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I tell you what, I had to go to the hospital after picking a fight with a darkie and the FACKING place was full of Asian doctors! I was disgusted, naturally I refused treatment. |
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I don't know, would you? Honest answer, come on. Do you think the UK would be a better place with no black or asian population? It's not a hard question. |
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ROFPMS |
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These are the sorts of top notch posts you can expect from a fucking moron. |
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you want me to say 'yes' just so you can spend half an hour (trying) to rip me to pieces. i'm not falling for that |
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it wasn't a joke, you troll. |
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maybe not to you |
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"falling for that"? You either agree with the statement or you don't, no need to obfuscate your beliefs for the sake of convenience. |
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you're a total asshole. how can you vote for this scum? i mean they're a fucking disgrace. they are run by out & out racist scum, and i hope you fucking rot in hell. they are a bunch of bullshit populists. you're a fucking racist if you vote for them. extremeism on any end of the political spectrum (thats far left or far right, incase you brand me a soft lefty, which i'm not) is potentially damaging. what the fuck did people fight for in the 2nd world war? to keep the UK a fucking free country. and voting for the BNP goes against that on so many levels. "oh no, niggers are taking our jobs" you cry. NO. they are doing the jobs we don't want. immigrants came over to this country post war period to do jobs we didn't want to do or didnt have the manpower to do, and we should so some fucking gratitude for that. yes, our immigration system is a bit shit, and really these days our country has no need for economic migrants, but political migrants should always be allowed here. the proportion of illegal immigrants is vastly blown out of proportion by shit like the daily mail, ever keen to thrust their facist views upon us. |
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No, i'm trying to encourage you to express what you actually mean. If you want a completely white nation, just come out and say it, i'm not going to put words in your mouth. Just don't expect me to come along on your white-hooded nightride. I don't think i've ever said this on the interweb, not even drunk, but if i ever met you in real life i would do my utmost to knock you the fuck down, penexpers. |
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you're a total asshole. how can you vote for this scum? i mean they're a fucking disgrace. they are run by out & out racist scum, and i hope you fucking rot in hell. they are a bunch of bullshit populists. you're a fucking racist if you vote for them. extremeism on any end of the political spectrum (thats far left or far right, incase you brand me a soft lefty, which i'm not) is potentially damaging. what the fuck did people fight for in the 2nd world war? to keep the UK a fucking free country. and voting for the BNP goes against that on so many levels. "oh no, niggers are taking our jobs" you cry. NO. they are doing the jobs we don't want. immigrants came over to this country post war period to do jobs we didn't want to do or didnt have the manpower to do, and we should so some fucking gratitude for that. yes, our immigration system is a bit shit, and really these days our country has no need for economic migrants, but political migrants should always be allowed here. the proportion of illegal immigrants is vastly blown out of proportion by shit like the daily mail, ever keen to thrust their facist views upon us. |
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yes my connection timed out and i double posted. deal with it. sorry, i'm all jumped up now |
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Unless you wish to actually run as a BNP candidate of course. |
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passionately said. i admire your strength in writing. |
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If you are cuntwitted enough to not realise the BNP are racists then come out with it, it's better than genuinely believing that black people are worthless sacks of AIDS spewing voodoo magic and devouring human beings. If the BNP aren't a good enough reason to vote for someone at least fleetingly viable then I don't know what is. |
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people just get race and social group mixed up |
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like charles heston was suddenly the big fascist in columbine when he said racial issue, and michael moore was, race, you said race, what's got race got to do with anything.. |
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"gypsies need to be stopped from using sites illegally. my dad runs a building company and often get gypsies parked on his sites. they steal things and are a huge nuisance. " I'm an american and not that well informed about your politics, but that sounds damn ignorant to me, almost ignorant enough to be an american southerner! |
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sounds like the problem is vagrancy and thievery not necessarily immigration! |
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scapegoating is much better. |
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You guys actually have Nazi's on the ballot? How progressive! Its dissapointing to me that there hasn't been a single post concerning the war and the fact that Blair's head is so far up Bush's asshole it makes Maggie Thatcher green with envy. |
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well the problem is, that anyone is allowed to stand to be elected. so yeah much as i'd (and much other i'm sure) would like the see the BNP banned, it would essentially undermine the principles of democracy to do so. |
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I'm sure they have to have won some type of support to appear on the ballot, otherwise you would have thousands of canidates. Is rascism that big of a factor in UK politics? |
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its more of an immigration thing really.mostly blown out of proportion by right wing media, so yeah i guess that could be seen as racism. the BNP does have a few mps in government, mainly in areas of the country where race relations areat an all time low. |
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If you'd asked me that 2 years ago I would've said no. Now however.... |
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i voted a coupla hours ago...it was utterly disappointing! i only had 5 parties to choose from, the 3 main parties, UKIP and Veritas. i wanted to vote green but they don't even have a candidate in my are. suxxx. so obviously i voted for kilroy instead (just kidding!). still, it was better than the 2001 one election, in that one i had just the 3 main parties. |
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Not really better though, since your two new candidates are Veritas and UKIP |
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true |
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"You guys actually have Nazi's on the ballot? How progressive" Yes, it's a little political system we have in this country called democracy. Suggesting that parties with certain beliefs shouldn't be allowed to stand for election, is, in itself, non-democratic. I'll vote for anyone who'll: lower taxes, make it more rewarding to work harder, punish indolence, improve the piss-poor standards of driving in this country, through legislation and enforced bans, sort out the sham that is speed cameras/ludicrous speed limits, sort out the ridiculous university fees/mickey mouse courses debacle (the two are intrinsicaly linked), sort out the current housing prices, withdraw us from the EU. So, a combination of UKIP/BNP/Veritas/Conservative for me. I can't bring myself to vote for any rascist who wants to deport minorites/stop legitimate (eg useful/genuine refugee)immigrants, so UKIP and BNP are off the cards. BTW, wanting to withdraw from the EU isn't racist, before someone with their head lodged into their rectum steps in to 'correct' me... My belief to withdraw is based on: a) economy and b) legislation neither of which have anything to do with 'race'. So, that leaves Veritas and Conservative and I live in a conservative stronghold, so no point voting. Voter apathy, dontchajustloveit? Blair is a fucking liar, no two ways about it. On top of that, his policies (especially economic, tax and education) suck balls. He certainly doesn't represent the interests of the working man. Quite why he gets in time and time again (and will again tomorrow, mark my words) is beyond me. Balls, just remember I was going to put £100 on it but I haven't had a chance to get to the bookies. Kennedy seems the nicest bloke out of the big 3 leaders, but that doesn't mean I think he should run the country. Howard looks like a vampire and comes across as fantastically insencere, even when he's talking about things you know he'd do if he got in. Still, better bloke than blair. |
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tory boy :P |
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He he, not a model one; I declined the offer of a conservative mate to go canvasing in St. Pauls (in Bristol) with him. I also, rather ironically, only have a couple of conservative mates. Or rather, those who vote conservative- I notice a lot of my labour-voting friends seem to actually want conservative policies and about 80% of my friends are lib dems. I wouldn't mind the lib dems getting in, at least there are some good points to their policies. |
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like i said earlier i'm reluctantly voting labour. i don't like tory policies overall. their plans for the healthcare stink imho and how do you think they plan on increasing public spending and lowering tax? not being hostile here, just interested in your POV ( i shouldn't really have to put that, but the atmosphere in this place in the last few days has been shit, so i'm not taking chances :0) ) oh yeah did you ever move to gloucester in the end? |
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""You guys actually have Nazi's on the ballot? How progressive" Yes, it's a little political system we have in this country called democracy. Suggesting that parties with certain beliefs shouldn't be allowed to stand for election, is, in itself, non-democratic." I wasn't commenting on the process tight-ass- or even suggesting that skin-heads shouldn't be allowed to seek office. I'm just shocked that a party with central tennents built on rascism has enough support to get on the frigging ballot, let alone have canidates that hold office. |
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unfortunately it is an underlying social problem in more deprived areas of the country. |
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not being hostile here, just interested in your POV No hostility sensed- it's nice to be able to discuss politics in a mature manner without resorting to name calling/childish antics. Whilst I'm generally opposed to private healthcare as being neccessary (and don't have any myself), I believe their plans would cut nhs waiting lists significantly- something that needs to be done before the NHS can ever really be sorted out. Also on the matter of the NHS, a hell of a lot of money spend on it is wasted on managers/consultants etc. and comparatively little is actually seen to make a difference. This situation is prevelant in a lot of the civil services and rectifying it could save money, part of which could be tax breaks, part increased public spending. I'm not really interested in them spending more on public services, only in taxes being lowered, but if they can increase public spending, good for them. My overriding attitude is we always get a very basic, inefficient, level of public services, be it transport, police, education, etc. throwing more money at it (as labour have done since '97) doesn't appear to yield any improvements, if anything, things have gotten worse. I believe the only noticeable difference raising taxes would have for me would be less money to continue my education (my tuiton fees are obscene- more than my rent a lot of the time) and a reduction in what little disposable income I have. I don't think I'd see an improvement in the NHS, schools, roads, councils, etc. oh yeah did you ever move to gloucester in the end? No, I looked at a few places, but they had 6 months minimum terms and I don't want to be stuck anywhere as I'm looking to move back to Cardiff when the right job comes along. Also, my flatmate (as suddenly as it started), stopped being an irritating bitch, so there was less pressure to get out of where I was living at the time. |
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How has the movement maintained momentum? Normally such patently-offensive ideas succumb to public outcry, get cleaned up and repackaged. I find it hard to believe that it's just "in the deprived areas". |
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i_x_ten, A question for you: How can you be in favour of the current trend towards a dumbing down of academia, as well as a (frankly rather snobbish) move away from vocational skills/apprentiships such as plumbing, plastering, etc. Do we really need/can we really afford, 40% of the population to go to university? Yes, choice of the individual should come into it, but should that override cost to the taxpayer and the need for a certain level of intelligence before entering higher education? Godataloss: Very mature debate, I really respect your eloquently reasoned opinions. *rolls eyes* You should join the BNP, shouting and giving abuse to people you disagree with is de rigeur there... |
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well trust me you're not missing much not living here.... the way i see it with healthcare, okay labour aren't doing a good job at all, even though they are throwing the money at it. but to then take half the cost of an operation to subsidise a private op from nhs funds is going to make things worse. the problem is half the cost is still a lot, and is only going to be of benifit if you can afford it. and that is the underlying problem with the tories; "its choice if you can afford it" local public transport here is quite good, but nationally it is a joke. i've had so much grief with trains, they do my nut in, but then thats privatisation for you! |
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They've grown in credibility recently, they were in their early days viewed as little more than football hooligans with political aspirations. Now, particularly in poorer areas they are becoming more popular. Typically working class people who cannot bring themselves to vote conservative for historical reasons, but at the same time feel betrayed by labour and tend towards an independance from europe often vote BNP through desperation. Naturally, there are lots of out and out racists amongst their support, but that is not the case for all of them. They are not all stupid and their leader is one of the most charismatic and best in debate of any party I have seen in a long time. They also have other quite good policies (completely unrelated to race) like binding referendums, which helps give people a sense of increased control over politics, rather than just a say every 4 years. |
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i dont know if you saw my earllier post, i am reluctantly voting for labour. a lot of their policies stink and they are not the party they should be. i want to go back to education soon eventually going to uni, but i don't know if i could afford it, with increasing fees. there's always going to be demand for manual labour, and yeah i think the govt should be doing more to encourage people to learn trades. i would like to ideally see them outed, or at least have blair removed, but just not by the tories. i wont vote liberal for other reasons. i think if my local MP was independant i would still vote for him, even though he's labour he's very good, and not an arsehole like so many. |
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