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JivverDicker
from my house on 2005-05-03 16:40 [#01585102]
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he said a few weeks ago.."pop is crap idm is crap..there's no more interesting music :(" he also experienced Autechre Live and was less than impressed...
is this what we are heading towards? a jaded over stimulated twit?
to be honest i like deer hoof
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2005-05-03 16:41 [#01585108]
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music died..didnt you hear that?
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2005-05-03 16:43 [#01585110]
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I didn't and i don't believe it!
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-05-03 16:43 [#01585112]
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deerhoof is great. what's the trouble?
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big
from lsg on 2005-05-03 16:43 [#01585114]
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poor music :(
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2005-05-03 16:45 [#01585117]
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Ah I really don't think he was being serious. He listens to a lot of new music, like me, which can crush your soul at times because there's a lot of average stuff. Being a music nerd is a terrible burden :(((((((
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-05-03 16:45 [#01585118]
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Can we, should we, level this all at Tolstoyed? As far as I know he's a big fan of "music". I think.. times are changing, the old guard are meant to keep up developing whilst newcomers just pick up the existing "sound" without doing the groundwork. There's problems of perception, of a lack of, or too much, history. It's tricky times what with technology and that, give it 5 years, let it settle.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-05-03 16:45 [#01585120]
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haha, you shouldn't take for real everything i say..autechre weren't as exciting as i expected, as for pop and idm..i love music, do i need to say more :) i don't know what i'd do without it..probably not much..
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-05-03 16:46 [#01585121]
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Well its a loose statement. Sure by IDM standards IDM is getting a bit tiresome. That could be looked at two ways.
1. The person tired of it has been over saturated in the genre by listening to too much at once, meshing everything into a samey grey genericness.
2. The genre itself is flooded with weblabels with artists that effectively replicate their favorite artists. Those artists far outnumber the ones that produce original thought, thus making the genre seem bleak.
But then again IDM is just a term. I have heard good recommendations from Goran which werent IDM. It felt refreshing.
I think only the big names are capable of keeping interest in this small tightknit community until these developing weblabel artists advance their skill.
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Chihiro
from twins land on 2005-05-03 16:46 [#01585123]
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i think music is very alive... in every way.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-05-03 16:46 [#01585124]
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oh yes, and i love deerhoof!
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2005-05-03 16:46 [#01585126]
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deerhoof is the best music now! everyone should know giga dance
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-03 16:47 [#01585127]
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they were amazing at atp
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Anus_Presley
on 2005-05-03 16:47 [#01585128]
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you seem to be rreally brranching out in yourr musical tastes, have been forr a while, trrying new stuff.
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2005-05-03 16:48 [#01585130]
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listen and you will hear the sound off silence..it died
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-05-03 16:48 [#01585132]
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what is deerhoof?
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-05-03 16:49 [#01585136]
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super furry animals is where it's at
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-03 16:49 [#01585137]
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Guacamole!
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-05-03 16:50 [#01585139]
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it was about time :)
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2005-05-03 16:52 [#01585148]
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i think most weblabel artists are developing it's skills and hopefully there will come a big explosion very soon from those artists..artists are born everyday, every where, so is music.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-05-03 16:53 [#01585153]
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Thats what i expect to happen within the next couple of years. There are a couple of artists here that i have my eyes on that make wonderful music.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-05-03 16:53 [#01585154]
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check them out!!
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-05-03 16:53 [#01585156]
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no. most weblabels are rubbish. they are rubbish because the music is not worth promoting
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-05-03 16:53 [#01585157]
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I don't like the singer in deerhoof.
why do all Japanese women have to sing that way?
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-05-03 16:54 [#01585158]
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with any financial incentives
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-03 16:54 [#01585159]
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Tolstoyed has introduced me to more musicians than anyone else in the world.
Be proud of that Goran. I'm thankful :)
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-05-03 16:54 [#01585161]
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yes.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-05-03 16:55 [#01585164]
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i see, but do you actually listen to any of those? :D
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2005-05-03 16:56 [#01585165]
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I'ts honest IDM rock!! ha ha! there is nothing wrong with being cererbrel but they can squash a few styles without losing the audience. Respect!
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-05-03 16:57 [#01585170]
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it's quite satisfying to introduce Goran to something he has never heard before and he really likes.
it's also quite hard to pull off.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-05-03 16:57 [#01585171]
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bunny, bunny, bunny, bunny, bunny... bun-ny.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-03 16:58 [#01585175]
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Yes, yes I do. Many of them are on my iPod :)
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2005-05-03 16:58 [#01585176]
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I really need to know were your avatar is from or else I will die painfully.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-05-03 16:58 [#01585177]
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that's not always true.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-05-03 17:00 [#01585184]
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apple_bomb was kind of badass!
I am surprised. I will have to listen to more.
I like how her voice is gentle
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-05-03 17:03 [#01585190]
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i'd be hapy for you to give me 2 exceptions
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-05-03 17:09 [#01585213]
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in theory, the music is good and the artists are getting promoted by having their music put out there. promotion is the whole point of a good netlabel. it shouldn't just be a vanity imprint - it should be promotion for good artists trying to get their music heard all over the world.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-05-03 17:11 [#01585223]
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hmm, you introduced me to a number of bands..always looking forward to your recommendations. i found out about a LOT of fantastic music on this site - you people have excellent taste! (well, most of you hehe).
giginger, im glad to hear that!
virginpusher, check out 'milk man' album, not a bad track on it!
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-05-03 17:14 [#01585241]
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you are right but at the same time i think wrong. are they not grabbing onto false dreams and mediocre bullshit on the off chance little or no cash "signing" can bring the owner financially incentive rewards? or do you think people do this out of love for music? a nice sentement at least...
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2005-05-03 17:17 [#01585256]
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Sorry tolst! I felt obliged to make an o[[osite to your mono posts. It is slightly comforting that you have settled down.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-05-03 17:20 [#01585263]
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i know why i do it, and it's because i like the music. yes, it's a mutually-promotional tool (the artists and label are being promoted), but other than that i'm not out to "get" anyone. i haven't made a cent off it and never expected to (although i did pay out of pocket for the site).
i don't know why others do it, but i've enjoyed a substantial number of net-releases which have led to me buying the artists' other works.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-05-03 17:22 [#01585267]
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well you've done the same for me!
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-05-03 17:22 [#01585268]
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thanks for that..i'll be more carefull what i say in the future.. i know i shouldn't be that way, especially because i can't make music myself..but i also thought everyone knew me by now and so know that the only band i really dislike are radiohead :)
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-05-03 17:22 [#01585269]
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Not entirely true. I know i will never be signed. I just want to have a chance to have people listen to what i make. I like to hear feedback and when someone gives me positive feedback then thats all the payment i need.
I know that sounds a tad silly but seriously, the genre of music that we like and support is a real small one. Smaller than that is the fanbase.
I plan on saving up money so that when me and anders finish our next album i can send it to everyone for free. People seemed to enjoy it last time so i thought we could do it as a thank you.
I plan on working a typical m-f 9-5 job. I have no hopes or expectations otherwise
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-05-03 17:22 [#01585270]
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i agree with the mutual (limited) promotional exposure but other that that i can only see it as some fun
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-05-03 17:23 [#01585272]
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I've enjoyed these so far! Thanks again!
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-05-03 17:23 [#01585273]
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what's wrong with some fun, then? and meeting interesting people?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-05-03 17:25 [#01585274]
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shouldn't you thank jivver? :)
either way, you're very welcome!
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-05-03 17:25 [#01585276]
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nothing. but by fun i mean personally in that you can say you're signed, or whatever
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2005-05-03 17:25 [#01585277]
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Let's just listen to ' giga dance' deerhoof.
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