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b6662966
from ? on 2005-04-30 18:16 [#01581579]
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was curious to know whos into Lossless audio? who prefers to rip their cds as lossless (FLAC, APE, OFR)?
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-04-30 18:19 [#01581581]
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I apreciate lossless. I havent yet started ripping CD's as lossless or burn as lossless yet but for certain releases this could very well be a good choice.
I dont like how much size it takes up but that can always be altered later.
welcome to our fun house btw!
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2005-04-30 18:20 [#01581582]
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no we dont want a free Ipod mini, thankyou.
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denniscpearce
from Canada on 2005-04-30 18:21 [#01581584]
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flac is where its at. rip with EAC in secure mode to single disc flacs with cue sheets.
make sure you apply your cd drives read offset.
rip once. rip right.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-04-30 18:22 [#01581585]
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yeah, i really like flac. sounds great.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-04-30 18:27 [#01581586]
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Wellcome to this nice messageboard, it is nice yes!
I hope you are enjoy stay here.
You can be my friend I won't touch you.
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2005-04-30 18:28 [#01581588]
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yes he will
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denniscpearce
from Canada on 2005-04-30 18:29 [#01581589]
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yeah, i really like flac. sounds great. well. what you hear is exactly what you would hear if you listened the the original source.
dont get me wrong, i think 160-192+kbps ogg files sound fucking amazing. and i probably most of the time couldnt distinguish them from the origional source in double blind test, but thats not the point.
say i rip all my cds to mp3, or ogg, or whatever, now. and then in 2 years theres a new magical quantum computing audio compression scheme (or whatever) that sounds way better and is way smaller. well my only choice would be to go mp3->new format or ogg->new format. and going from ANY lossy format to any format, is less then ideal. of cours mp3 at 360kbps isnt going to be THAT bad to transcode to something else, but it is not ideal. so i would have to spend all the time re ripping.
with flac, i have 60GB of flacs ripped perfectly, of a little over 300 cds, and i can automate a transcoding from flac to any other future format, and have as good as a result as if i ripped to the new format directly.
so flac is amazing for that.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2005-04-30 18:35 [#01581591]
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LOSSLESS audio is AWESOME, I fucvking love it, it's the GREATEST thing EVER!!!!!! Now I can really ENJOY music!!
LOSSLESS AUDIO 4EVER
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2005-04-30 18:38 [#01581593]
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the end
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2005-04-30 18:39 [#01581594]
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flac or stfu
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2005-04-30 18:41 [#01581596]
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what like a cd
yeah
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k_maty
on 2005-04-30 18:42 [#01581597]
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I hate you
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2005-04-30 18:42 [#01581598]
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Of course we love Lossless audio, but lets admit it - Flac is too fucking huge and impractical.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2005-04-30 18:43 [#01581600]
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jesus christ if youre worried so much about it sounding as good as a cd BUY THE FUCKIN CD
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2005-04-30 18:47 [#01581604]
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it's because i called you a monkey fag isn't it? you were asking for it.
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xceque
on 2005-04-30 18:50 [#01581606]
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Oh in 10 years time when your prized CDs are scratched to shit and crumbled into oxidised dust you'll come crying to us lossless archivers with your shamed head hung low and with red faced humily ask "please can you do me a copy please".
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2005-04-30 18:51 [#01581607]
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I hate him too!
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2005-04-30 18:53 [#01581608]
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i hate me too!
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denniscpearce
from Canada on 2005-04-30 18:54 [#01581609]
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jesus christ if youre worried so much about it sounding as
good as a cd BUY THE FUCKIN CD
i hope this wasnt directed at me. i own every cd i have ripped to flac.
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2005-04-30 18:58 [#01581612]
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ofcourse it wasnt directed at you. are you jesus? no you aren't
^ more reason to hate me
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denniscpearce
from Canada on 2005-04-30 18:58 [#01581613]
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im not jesus, but i have the same initials. i am the man, who stays home and does the dishes.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2005-04-30 19:03 [#01581614]
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no was it basically directed at people who are like omg i need this in flac i cant listen to mp3s please help me get flacs of x album etc
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denniscpearce
from Canada on 2005-04-30 19:39 [#01581626]
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ok. as we speak im ripping every bjork single to flac.
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b6662966
from ? on 2005-04-30 19:45 [#01581633]
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wow u guys are fast to respond ! lmao a few idm sharers from the DC Lossless Trading Hub told me about this site today, said u guys like to chop it up about electronic and idm music so i came :) Im glad more and more peeps are getting into Lossless. I agree with DennisPearce about how high bitrate OGG or MP3 sound amazingly well but that FLAC offers not only the best quality but flexibilty.
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denniscpearce
from Canada on 2005-04-30 19:50 [#01581643]
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b6662966 i am glad we are on the same level. as other have said, welcome. yeah i used to be into the DC++ stuff a bit, works pretty well for closed groups sort of thing.
flac for future foward flexibility.
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denniscpearce
from Canada on 2005-04-30 19:52 [#01581645]
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oh god, nice image.
well yeah just about being fast to respond. this isnt like most forums/messageboards, in that its more like slightly delayed active discussions, than the kind of message board where threads arnt very active and only are posted to with actual interesting posts
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oyvinto
on 2005-04-30 20:54 [#01581686]
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flac is the shit. everybody start ripping your cd's/vinyl now! i share some essential flacs on slsk for those who have something to trade.
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Neto
from Ecatepec (Mexico) on 2005-04-30 22:50 [#01581811]
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i'm interested in this format, it seems a really good idea if some day you have to say goodbye to your music collection
if you have low speed internet connection (like me) it could be really awful to download/upload this format,
for my own private use I still rip my cd's at 320kbps cbr mp3's
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2005-04-30 23:20 [#01581827]
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when i have a terabyte hard drive i will start using flac
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tridenti
from Milano (Italy) on 2005-05-01 03:19 [#01581888]
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FLAC is the best!
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uzim
on 2005-05-01 03:46 [#01581893]
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i see the point of it, theorically - but practically i think it's kind of stupid.
it takes a lot of disk space, which is not free, and of course a lot of time to download if you want to download it... and if you want "perfect", lossless quality, logically you'd have to get "perfect" audio equipment also. is there anything like that in the world? every speaker, every headphones, have a particular sound... you'll never get a 100% accurate restitution of the sound. and you'll have to have "perfect" ears also (though of course i believe you if you say you can make the difference between mp3 and lossless). and "perfect" conditions to listen to the music... last but not least, the sound of a cd is not "perfect" either. if the cd format was lossless, we wouldn't have sacd and all those other new formats now would we... besides we all know some cds that have crappy mastering/crappy sound.
so, ok, you might say you don't want perfection but to get as close as possible to it. it's up to you to decide if it's worth it then... for me it's not; mp3 is a lossy format, sure, but i think what you lose in quality is way compensated by the disk space you save. and if i love the music and if the cd is findable, then i'll just buy it. i'll have the cd and real artwork and all...
of course cds can scratch or be stolen - but computers can crash and then you lose all data. you'll take risks either way.
now if you have a really really big hard drive (and really really fast connection if you download), then fine for you... : )
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2005-05-01 05:36 [#01581924]
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the thing is, hard drives are progressively getting bigger and bigger and internet bandwith is always increasing. so in the long run, the file size won't matter. there was a time (in the early-mid 90's) when 5-10mb files were considered big.
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Anus_Presley
on 2005-05-01 05:58 [#01581936]
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ohhh nooo, the new guy said peeps
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Laserbeak
from Netherlands, The on 2005-05-01 05:58 [#01581937]
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I think the time is right for FLAC because you can always rip your cd's as both FLAC and MP3 and put the FLACs on DVDR (about 0.36 euro per DVDR in Germany) for storage and the MP3s on your harddrive for sharing and playing
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-01 06:06 [#01581945]
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I'd love to use FLAC to have ripped all my stuff. But, as uzim pointed out, it's impractical. Until hard drives are at 1TB minimum then I'm staying away from it. In fact, what's the point if mp3 players won't have enough storage for a good amount of flacs. I'm out of space on my 40 gig iPod using 192kbps mp3s.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-01 06:08 [#01581946]
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That's actually a damn fucking good idea :D
Although I hate you now as it means Ill be ripping all my CDs again :s
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2005-05-01 06:14 [#01581948]
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then you just rip the flacs into mp3s, exclusively for your mp3 player. problem solved.
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2005-05-01 06:15 [#01581949]
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your avatar is hawt
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Vin3islih
from United Kingdom on 2005-05-01 06:23 [#01581951]
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I thought people here we're all mp3 newbs. Hoorah!
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