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offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2005-04-25 13:59 [#01576500]
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How many of them do you think wake up one day and realize
that everything they've ever done is pure shit that has been
manufactured for a target audience by their record label in
order to produce maximum profits for their parent company?

In other words, what percentage of them did something
similar to that guitarist from Limp Bizkit left the band
after hearing Radiohead?


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2005-04-25 14:02 [#01576502]
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5


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2005-04-25 14:02 [#01576503]
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I'm gonna take a stab here and guess 1%.

Mainly because its hard to turn down free drugs, daily
blowjobs and millions of dollars.


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2005-04-25 14:02 [#01576504]
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haha nice.

can you name them? lolz


 

offline vlari from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2005-04-25 14:05 [#01576506]
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Very few, I think. especially on their way to the bank,
driving an 20inch rimmed Escalade with Cristal in the fridge
and a couple of ladeez in the back.


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2005-04-25 14:07 [#01576507]
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Jonathan Davis (KorN)
That Guy from staind
Ashley Simpson
50 Cent (like it or not)
Danni Filth (cradle of filth)


 

offline Cheffe1979 from fuck (Austria) on 2005-04-25 14:08 [#01576508]
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what is that guitarist story about?


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2005-04-25 14:08 [#01576509]
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i think most of them:

a) don't care
b) actually enjoy the music they make
c) convince themselves that what they're doing is an
important contribution to the art world


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2005-04-25 14:10 [#01576510]
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I think you are dead right with choice 'c'


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2005-04-25 14:11 [#01576514]
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Ashley Simpson
50 Cent

You're kidding right?


 

offline vlari from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2005-04-25 14:13 [#01576517]
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And let's not forget that they help sustain a muical culture
for others to react upon. We need the shit to make purdy
flowers.


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offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2005-04-25 14:14 [#01576518]
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i mean, i have more respect for the ones who actually admit
to what they're doing and call it what it is -
entertainment. at least they're not kidding themselves -
they know they're only doing it to be rich and famous. the
ones who say, you know i'm doing this music for money and i
might as well be making a tv show or video games, but this
is the industry i'm getting my cocaine from at the moment
and i admit it.

i can appreciate someone who admits that that's their career
choice rather than the assholes in these commercial bands
who operate within the system that insist that their music
is an important statement against the system.


 

offline vlari from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2005-04-25 14:14 [#01576519]
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We have to see the bigger picture here


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offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2005-04-25 14:26 [#01576537]
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I dont know what i am posting about to be quite frank.


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2005-04-25 14:34 [#01576541]
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fair 'nuff.

I saw this girl on TV the other day (someone from American
Idol?) anyways... she was talking about how she wanted to
learn to play an instrument because all she could do was
sing and I almost put my foot through her slightly famous
face.

They then showed her sitting between two skinny dorks in
some studio and they were pointing out how to use the
goddamn volume sliders on the mixer like it was supposed to
make her feel all technical or some shit. I felt like
helping her out by showing her the procedure in greater
detail by slamming her torso into the EQ nobs, taking a dump
in the back of her panties, then administering an atomic
wedgie.


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2005-04-25 14:40 [#01576545]
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Sorry that was harsh. In all fairness, she could sing well,
its a shame all she could do was generic uninspiring R&B
that any black chick could do, really. I hate todays
culture.

oh you can sing R&B just like millions of others? Heres
a fat check and some skinny white guys to produce your
boring tripe



 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2005-04-25 14:54 [#01576552]
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i guess the question then is, why do you care? i don't care
- i just don't watch those shows and i don't listen to their
radio. that way it bothers me very little in my daily life.
there's nothing you can do - all the complaining and
contempt in the world won't change it. it's just always
going to be there, so let it go.


 

offline clint from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-04-25 14:57 [#01576556]
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To be honest I think the production on most crappy pop songs
is a million times more enjoyable than the artist's
contribution



 

offline oper4t0r from OS 1.1 on 2005-04-25 15:35 [#01576600]
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some pop is good.
i challenge anyone to say massive attack or bjork or orbital
isn't
1.pop
and
2.fucking great


 

offline jkd from Twitch City (Canada) on 2005-04-25 15:54 [#01576629]
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i'm assuming you're "taking the piss" as the kids say these
days, but i don't care. yeah i guess those acts are pop, and
yeah they are great. at least somewhat great. great.



 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2005-04-25 15:56 [#01576633]
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since it seemed like everyone was talking "commercial"
music, that's what my posts were about. i have nothing
against pop music. i listen to some pop. i just don't
listen to overtly-commercial music.


 

offline oper4t0r from OS 1.1 on 2005-04-25 16:01 [#01576640]
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not somewhat great. just great. orbital got me into doing
what i do today, and so influenced the next whole generation
of cutting-edge music. but they are basically pop. there's
nothing wrong with pop, it doesn't all have to be natalie
fucking umbrella


 

offline 010101 from Vancouver (Canada) on 2005-04-25 16:06 [#01576642]
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Mirwais is a great pop producer


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2005-04-25 16:06 [#01576643]
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Your articulacy only hints at the zeppelin of talent
nestling in your brainzoid.


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2005-04-25 16:07 [#01576644]
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You are correct sir. I'm just angry because i stumbled upon
it while flipping channels. I dont know why I was even
watching TV, i think it was my gf's idea. I usually live in
a bubble otherwise.


 

offline oper4t0r from OS 1.1 on 2005-04-25 16:08 [#01576645]
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anyone got any fags. ah, thanks, you ARE one.


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2005-04-25 16:09 [#01576647]
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You have no class :(


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2005-04-25 16:11 [#01576652]
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That done me badly, oh no!!! Careful not to lose your gay
audience Oper4t0r.


 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-04-25 16:11 [#01576653]
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I have tried my hand at doing "pop" songs with friends who
are singers, and I must say I found it more difficult to
create a sharp, catchy, well-produced pop song thant my own
normal stuff. It's not difficult in a creative sense, but
more because it is very strict and limited, and you can't
just do what the fuck you want like you can in an
experimental track of your own but you have to consider
others, no matter how crap their speakers are or how stupid
their musical brains are.

However much I dislike pop, I do think it takes a lot of
tecnical skill to be able to make a track sound as slamming
and slick as "Toxic" by Britney or whatever.


 

offline oper4t0r from OS 1.1 on 2005-04-25 16:13 [#01576658]
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britney at least has a nice booty


 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-04-25 16:14 [#01576659]
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(ps-I know Britney is a dolly who had absolutely nothing to
do with the track except to sing pathetically on it, only
for a producer to add a million enhancements to her voice
for it to sound reasonable)


 

offline 010101 from Vancouver (Canada) on 2005-04-25 16:15 [#01576663]
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I wish I could write a catchy pop song.

Me sell out, oh yes.....


 

offline oper4t0r from OS 1.1 on 2005-04-25 16:16 [#01576664]
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yeah, whatver, but that booty...


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2005-04-25 16:19 [#01576668]
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You sound like such a tit, and even though you're 11, it
doesn't excuse you.


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2005-04-25 16:30 [#01576708]
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Really? I think pop songs are way easy to make.


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2005-04-25 16:30 [#01576710]
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Make one.


 

offline jkd from Twitch City (Canada) on 2005-04-25 16:34 [#01576722]
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next xlt vibes, anyone? pop themed



 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-04-25 16:38 [#01576726]
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Joke:

What goes pop and lives in a jar?
.............
..............
.............
.................ANSWER:

Tele.



 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2005-04-25 16:47 [#01576745]
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this pop enough?


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2005-04-25 16:49 [#01576747]
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That would be a good idea.


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2005-04-25 16:49 [#01576748]
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Not really, this is pretty bad and I doubt someone would
want to play it on the Radio.


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2005-04-25 16:51 [#01576751]
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I might believe you except for the fact that I won a talent
show contest with that song against other people who
actually sung real pop songs that appeared on the radio. The
track was even picked out by Top40 losers who said I should
rap over it because it was 'tight'.

Thanks for your input though.


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2005-04-25 16:55 [#01576757]
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Ahaha, awesome. You should try to add some vocals, though,
you'll never top the charts with that version.


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2005-04-25 16:59 [#01576762]
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Exactly, thats why its labeled (instrumental). I dont sing,
but I'm known to rap (very badly). But i made some shit
rhymes up with a co-worker for the show like the night
before and we managed to smoke everyone like a joint at a
reggae concert. I won a gift certificate and a pineapple :D


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2005-04-25 17:06 [#01576773]
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With that clip you've confused the term "pop" with "boring,
repetitious and unengaging". Any reference to "tight" must
have been aimed at your arse.


 

offline oper4t0r from OS 1.1 on 2005-04-25 17:07 [#01576776]
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ahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaa


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2005-04-25 17:32 [#01576807]
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Well i got news for you: Commercial pop is boring
repetitious and unengaging.

Someone call a newspaper.


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2005-04-25 17:50 [#01576817]
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I don't want to be mean, but even really bad pop is better
crafted than that thing you posted. If you're sat there
thinking "I'm going to make a pop record" or "I'm going to
make a difficult IDM track" then I think you're either in
the wrong game, or you're as cravenly cynical as the "pop
producers" you decry in this thread.


 

offline horsefactory from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2005-04-25 17:55 [#01576823]
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Man, I can just imagine you tearing up the talent contest
with that stormer, Well Done.


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2005-04-25 18:20 [#01576840]
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You guys underestimate the intelligence of the common
person. They ate it up. I dont know what you guys consider
'pop' over there in your country but this song is better
than most shit in the clubs here. Sorry. Sorry you have
better music on your radio stations, I guess. You must feel
lucky.

I know what I'm doing and it was neither "I'm going to make
a pop record" or "I'm going to make a difficult IDM track".
But thanks for trying.

While we're at it, why dont you post a pop track so I can
learn from the 'masters'?


 


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