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How important do you think they are with regards to the industry? Theyve had somewhat a potted history, and so sad that co-founder Rob Mitchell died in 2001. Steve got it together and decided to continue after ,uch soul-searching I believe. But where will he take Warp? It must be so difficult to continue with such a reputation that was built at the begining of a new wave of techno artists; new decent artists seem hard to come by nowadays. I wonder if they will steer in more of an indie dircetion, but they have sub-labels to deal with this. It kind of seems like theyve been running a little bit too much on past reputatuions of artists at the moment - ae, afx, etc. I think theres still shit loads of potential though. And I'm sure they could pump more into marketing themsleves better... |
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i see them steering in less of an electronic direction |
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me too...unfortunately |
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Warp stopped taking risks 10 years ago... I am glad they are steering away from electronic music. If they continue to travel down that path, everybody is going to think of Aphex Twin and Autechre when they think of warp. Leave the IDM to the vanity labels. |
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new warp artists suck.. commercial bullshit for the masses.. I start hating warp for doing this |
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I will agree with you on that for maximo park (fucking emo motherfucking radiohead rippoff I hate emo radioheadish bullshit) On the other hand, !!! is great, and you cannot deny this. |
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On the third hand here is a writeup on the new warp signee. IF its half as good as it sounds, it could be awesome: While wandering the streets of London, a member of the band !!! bought ‘Big City Loser’ in Rough Trade records by pure chance on it's original limited vinyl pressing release on the hip Château Rouge label in France.. Blown away by this funky and brutal deconstruction, he played it to Steve Beckett who runs Warp Records. Steve flipped over this Parisian mutant. Equally, CHOK ROCK could not believe it when he received a call asking for him to jump on the next Eurostar for a very important meeting, where he then signed to Warp Records. Instant fans include Trevor Jackson who calls CHOK ROCK “fun, mutant, sonic madness”, like “Akufen meets Parliament”. ‘Big City Loser’ is re-released by Warp on 25th May 2005, re-mastered and with an extra track on the CD entitled ‘Take A Plane’. Another EP and album will follow this year. Waiting for the spring, CHOK ROCK is in his studio and is creating a sound which will be brutal, beautiful, Parisian party music… |
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music as a whole is so pointless and stupid. |
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hmm.. ok I understand you cause it's in my opinion well produced music, but it doesn't fit into warp records for me simply because it's just music that everyone likes.. to poppy.; and second reason why I don't give a damn about them is because they "discovered" those choc rok guys.. awful music.; saw them playin live last week.; really bad stuff, pff |
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WARPs life is bound to the lives of autechre and rdj --> WARP is dying. |
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Hmmm... Well, !!! is great (not just well produced, but fun. Definate messy party music). Maximo Park sucks... sounds exactly like someone at warp could use some extra spending money. Honestly, warp is still producing good music. The new prefuse is great, the Two Lone Swordsmen album that came out last year is still one of the best rock albums I have heard in a while. There are a couple others that I can't think of right now that are high on my list of likes very much. |
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sure they are still producing good music!! totally agree with you in this point, but their whole image goes in the wrong direction just because of some of the new acts.. |
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i enjoyed 2 lone swordsmen but nowhere near on the level of some aphex stuff. what worries me a bit is the fact that rdj and jenko apparantly dislike the warp label and are merely fulfilling contracts. but theres bleep, warpfilms, et al too... |
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I think Untilted could be included in that list of contract fulfilling albums. |
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Didn't squarepusher and aphex speed up 'the exploding psychology' and call it 'fuck warp records'? Which label does everyone think ae will sign to if they leave warp? |
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they used to get us new, inventive stuff..nowdays they give us pop music. they still depend on people they signed + 10 years ago which is great, but appart from that they don't care much about new, different music.. |
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I've seen this change starting a couple of years ago. At some point they just didnt seem to care about their output anymore. I bought everything they released with no regred but then they came Mira Calix - One on One and even worse that Mercedes Bentley - Versace Armani shit. Since then Im more catious before I buy anything. I hope they recover but now It doesnt really matter. |
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Maybe on SKAM but then they wouldnt sell as much as they do on WARP. They could release an expensive binder filled with old unmastered fake tracks we all buy anyway to keep the cash flowing.. |
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i dont like the new releases so much..but i do think they are important and will return with some good shit |
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afx and jenko witll release on MEN i think he said. theres already a MEN1 and stuff. so when did FON become WARP? |
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Yeah thats really a promising label. But MEN2 aka smojphace doesnt support this hope... |
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Honestly, warp is still producing good music.... the Two Lone Swordsmen album that came out last year is still one of the best rock albums I have heard in a while that comment scares the crap out of me |
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haha..the album already scared the shit out of me. |
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Why? Good music is good music, reguardless of what label it has. |
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warp has stopped being experimental now the rest of the world has caught up with them. the artists like ae and afx made futuristic music, but it turns out it wasnt far into the future, and now that the future is now they are all stuck wondering what to do next. warp is giving the masses what they want - rock and hip hop - because the experimental artists have run out of ideas and they dont want the label to die. |
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i just think theres a genuine lack of electronic talent. problem is afx, ae, tom, etc. have already been there done that. |
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Its not like they are making normal rock and pop music. They are just cattering to a different underground crowd. I can't think of any albums released on warp that might qualify as pop... Probly the poppiest one might be the new prefuse, and that is still pretty leftwing compared to britney spears or neptunes whatever else the radio is trying to sell us nowadays. That is the kind of music the masses want. |
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indeed. theres also the issue that we arent still in the acid house boom epoch.. |
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though its funny cos jenko probably woudnt have been on warp if it wasnt for aphex. warp didnt respond to jenkos tapes but when afx played them his stuff and he got signed. and now jenko whines about the label!! jenko sounds like a bit of a twat to be honest. |
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i got the Chok Rock EP and it's pretty disappointing. nothing really new, it sounds like it could have been on output a couple of years ago. on the other hand i like maximo park (it just sparks off latent indie-ness in me i guess) and i thought gravenhurst's album was the best thing released last year by anybody. the label still has scott herren, plaid and BOC - you can't say they have got a bad roster. |
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Warp kind of has a guaranteed market. And its not like they couldn't pick up a few more talented electronic musicians... there are hundreds of competent musicians who are capable of producing records that sell to any demographic, and a lot of them would jump at the chance to be signed to warp. If they were really desparate, they could farm the demo's that they received. |
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wait... does 'jenko' = squarepusher? |
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Get back to work you and your fancy review copies! :p I agree about Chok Rock though. Finally listened to mine. It's just a bit dull. |
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Well if Ultravisitor and Drukqs are just to fulfil contracts, then more of the same say I! |
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Crucially, vitally important to the scene's development, not as much any more, but still the home of the, ahem, "daddies"... |
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Oh, you don't know the half of it... ;-) |
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Er...what? |
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bob - jenko = pusher yes merg - afx and jenko fulfilling contracts with good albums is good now yes, but not for warps long-term future. and i know quite a lot about this actually: SQUAREPUSHER What Warp record had the biggest influence on you? "'LFO" by LFO - that's what got me into electronic music. It had a depth to it I hadn't heard before. There was something very English about it. It was more open and emotional and less portentous than the American stuff. And it had a sense of humour, which is pretty fucking essential! When I started making music, I sent Warp tapes and I always rib them about the fact they never replied. It wasn't until Aphex played them my stuff that they signed me!" How should Rob and Steve celebrate? "I don't reckon they should bother - it's not worth celebrating. It illustrates too much self-interest. they put out good music - that's all that matters." What will you be doing in ten years time? "I was thinking a few years ago that hopefully we'd have migrated into space 'cos the planet's gonna cave in. So if I'm still alive, I'll be making music in a space-ship." Who's your favourite Warp artist? "I respect most of Warp - but I don't necessarily like it. I reckon Boards of Canada is what I'm into most, although Autechre are smart. Aphex - if he made any music. I like the hermetic nature of what Boards are doing - they're not fazed by what's going on in the real world." --- Nice guy? Sounds like a cunt. |
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Maybe I 'm being harsh on him, but I remember that Vibert interview too about how he gets so pissed off if you play his un-released music etc. |
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How should Rob and Steve celebrate? celebrate what? |
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Yeah, he also pushed someone from this board because he wanted to take a friggin picture. But I dont care if hes a cunt or not. He gave me so many magic moments and he still produces quality music - that whats matters for me. I dont think RDJ is a super friendly guy aswell... |
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Their both complete assholes. Vibert and Paradinas seem like alright guys though. |
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What's cuntish about that?? (And I didn't mean to imply you didn't know a lot, just that I have, let's say, a special relationship to a certain track of his) |
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I always wondered why. I mean someone who produces tracks like 'on' or 'donkey r..' has to have a good soul. |
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you lost your virginity to the background music of 'smedleys melody'? :) |
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Whats the problem about playing unreleased stuff in a set?? |
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Well, just because they are assholes doesn't mean they can't be emotional. Generally, I find being too emotional and not really knowing what to do with those emotions is a great way of becoming a complete asshole. |
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LOL, you're on form today... |
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Nothing if you ask me...but I think your question was directed elsewhere? |
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Generally, I find being too emotional and not really knowing what to do with those emotions is a great way of becoming a complete asshole Thats a nice sentence! They should get back to work and make us some records. We are paying them. |
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