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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-04-14 13:09 [#01565153]
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I see SubPop as the US coorelative (in indie rock) to what Warp is in the UK for electronic.
Perhaps, they should just do an electronic SubLabel. The only other "semi-major" that seems to get equal distro and somewhat similar recognition would be planet-mu, which obviously has an entire different thing going on. Oh, then there's Schematic and N5MD, but I dont think that would work either.
So in a way, as far as distro is concerned they're a bit fucked. Maybe Touch, who knows. RDJ has rephlex, Mike P has Mu. AE should just start their own label proper, since they know what they like so much.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-04-14 15:20 [#01565350]
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There have always been people saying that warp has passed its prime... at least when I was getting into it. Its funny. People are using drukqs as an example of good warp releases, but back when that came out, a lot of people were saying that afx has lost it, and that it indicated that warp was no longer producing good quality electronic music.
I remember when Brothemstates and the Other People Place came out, and everybody "in the scene" was complaining about what warp was releasing was more of a parody of itself, because they are idm producers that were obviously influenced by the 'great' idm producers, and not originators themselves...
Warp will be around for a long time still, as long as people have an interest in listening to left-wing electronic style music. They wouldn't be expanding into a rap label and a film company if they were worried about going under as everybody seems to think.
And I don't know what you guys are talking about this chokrock stuff being awfull. I am listening to it, and it sounds to be good fun. You people need to learn to embrace that 'change in music' that warp-style artists have gained a reputation for.
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plaster
from splitska 10 on 2005-04-14 16:26 [#01565508]
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i think there's more to warp than just the style they went into.
see it as a phase the label is currently going through,but i guess a lot of you know how much music a label like this get's in mailbox.
they will surely come to the path they were years before.
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hobbes
from age on 2005-04-14 16:31 [#01565513]
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"I remember when Brothemstates and the Other People Place
came out, and everybody "in the scene" was complaining about
what warp was releasing was more of a parody of itself, because they are idm producers that were obviously influenced by the 'great' idm producers, and not originators
themselves..."
Maybe some people think that of brothomstates, but the other people place? Plonker!
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-04-14 16:34 [#01565521]
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twats!
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Key
from Bbbbarrow-in-f (United Kingdom) on 2005-04-14 16:37 [#01565530]
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Isnt Other People Place just a Drexciya alias?
I do partly agree with taxidermist though. People should lighten up. The early 1990s was a unique situation because of breakthroughs in technology, Warp are not going to be out finding the next Aphex because the scene has completely fractured due to more easily available software and hardware and cultural change like the internet and the lack of raves and stuff.
The indie bands on Warp don't annoy me because I don't like them and therefore do not listen to them. If Maximo Park are bringing in lots of money for Warp then great, it will help ensure their survival in an increasingly shaky music industry. I'd rather Warp be considered slightly less cool than being bankrupt.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-04-14 16:38 [#01565531]
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That was the big discussion... the albums were both released at around the same time, and people were like "whats this? a clone and a detroit techno album released at the same time!!! Warp is losing its touch!!"
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hobbes
from age on 2005-04-14 16:45 [#01565541]
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You obviously failed to get my point. Maybe i didn't explain myself properly enough.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-04-14 16:47 [#01565548]
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I don't know what fucking clowns were saying that, but both of those albums are very good. If you can't appreciate either of them then ok, they're not to your taste, whatever, but they're both class albums. Anyone who aligns themselves with a scene and moans about a record label selling out is
15 years old and A twat
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-04-14 17:06 [#01565586]
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"They are clearly marketing at the college, post college
crowd and i would put that as 19-32.
You can tell this by simply observing the enviroment around
you."
I'm sorry, I certainly don't see this when I observe the environment around me. I think a lot of that is your own assumption.
like I said, if they really were trying to make money they would produce more of the same that they have produced the last 15 years.
"But in the end what you have here is people that support
Warp that will talk down using inferences (and other dance abouts) the users that question the direction of warp."
this is because they want people to take their own responsibility and say the label. if there is any group that use inference it is this group that is trying to talk down Warp!
you don't like what they're doing and therefore you infer that they are busy with some kind of marketingplan.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-04-14 17:07 [#01565590]
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"this is because they want people to take their own responsibility and say the label." should read:
this is because they want people to take their own responsibility and not say it is the label's responsibility.
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k_maty
on 2005-04-14 17:51 [#01565624]
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You guys are just reading too deep into it. It was all about the bitches.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-04-14 18:18 [#01565645]
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deep, deep bitches.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-04-14 22:50 [#01565814]
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Meh sorta kinda.
I really dont care but i have no problem voicing my opinion that i feel a certain way abut a label.
I need to stop taking part in serious threads. Its bad form.
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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2005-04-15 02:00 [#01565851]
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Warp have actually always done "pop" and "indie" - it's just that most of you don't realise it.
Warp released some Pulp stuff through an imprint label, so if you hate 90s Britpop (and shame on you if you do), Warp can be at least partly blamed for it.
And even if you don't especially like Maximo Park, surely it's better to have a band like them in the charts than absolute dross like Robbie cunting Williams and Britney fucking Spears?
I think Warp are doing plenty of good things, and we just have to accept that techno is not that popular at the moment - Warp have to make their money from somewhere.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-04-15 02:25 [#01565856]
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Are Maximo Park in the charts?
To be honest, I'm not against branching out and all of that, but I really think Warp should stick to electronic music and if they want to release indie and other stuff it should be on a sub label. I think a (relatively, compared to other electronic labels) large company like Warp released left-field electronic music like Squarepusher/Ae/BoC etc. is a wonderful situation.
Sure, Warp could go more mainstream or branch out, and there are very small labels that could cater for IDM artists, but I'd hate to see that happen really. I don't want Warp diluted, and I think it's healthy to have a fairly large company hosting such experimental music.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-04-15 02:25 [#01565857]
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*releasing
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-04-15 02:44 [#01565867]
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i think maximo park got to no. 20 in the charts recently.
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merg
from The New New York (Berlin) (Germany) on 2005-04-15 05:16 [#01565952]
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Hmmm, maybe I'll tell you one day many moons from now, after you've earnt my trust and performed several initiation rights ;-)
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merg
from The New New York (Berlin) (Germany) on 2005-04-15 05:17 [#01565953]
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LOL, that made me laugh a lot...ta...
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merg
from The New New York (Berlin) (Germany) on 2005-04-15 05:19 [#01565954]
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In matters of opinion there never is right and wrong...
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-04-15 05:29 [#01565968]
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this converse may indeed prove more significant than any of us know.
initiation rights? i hve more points?
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merg
from The New New York (Berlin) (Germany) on 2005-04-15 05:29 [#01565969]
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Ooh I hope so...I'd feel more comfortable telling you if I knew you better...why don't you tell me some things about yourself :-)
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Bob Mcbob
on 2005-04-15 05:33 [#01565974]
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its the smeldeys melody thing, i bet
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merg
from The New New York (Berlin) (Germany) on 2005-04-15 05:34 [#01565976]
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Har bleedin har...I'm not telling YOU! :-D
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thecrimsonguard
from ∞ (United States) on 2005-04-15 05:38 [#01565980]
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when and if, aphex twin has left warp, autechre, boards of canada, squarepusher, richard devine, and anybody else that has talent on the record and makes electronic music are done with their contract with warp, it'll in fact suck balls. i really dislike the new acts warp signs now, its a joke.
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Anus_Presley
on 2005-04-15 10:43 [#01566225]
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Its bad form
Hahaha
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-04-15 10:44 [#01566226]
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:p
:D!!
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Anus_Presley
on 2005-04-15 10:45 [#01566227]
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I have to say I don't think the quality of the new acts signing to Warp is especially high but when did that everr stop a label frrom doing well.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-04-15 19:39 [#01566858]
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I didn't mean to sound like I was dissing those albums, I think their great. But I am just saying that people have always been saying warp is loosing its touch, and I dissagree. I think that they aren't taking any real chances anymore... but they act as a good figurehead for the more influential aspect of pop experimentalism.
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