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this is a bit old. |
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I'm nearly 73 years old! |
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like him then |
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actually I was thinking of making the same joke, but I resisted. now look at this mess. |
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hold on, ill randomly delete a few of these posts to tidy up. |
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funny thing about the Karlheinz on Richard and Richard on Karlheinz bits is that they are a lot alike - not at all getting eachothers points, focused completely on what they think they are trying to do. |
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Thank you now I undestrand this thread perfectly . |
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excellent :) |
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..except that James sounds a bit like Jamie Oliver.. "Mental!" "The ideal thing would be to meet him in a room and have a wicked discussion." |
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now delete chihiro's account |
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That's how it should be. |
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maybe, but it makes the whole excercise kind of pointless. has pomme deleted chihiro's account? |
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I like they way they don't get what the other's going on about, but then I think Stockhausen is more academic whereas Dickie is more "wikkid" with a large soupçon of his own take on "dance music". So... I wish they would get together in a room and have a wikkid jam, it'd sound shit, but probably quite jolly. |
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well yes, that was my point too, more or less. except wanting them to make some wikkid jam. |
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I said wikkid jam and carelessly forgot the ironic italics. |
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"chihiro".. now which one is that? |
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the one that uses the letters of his nickname (or handle) to form the name "chihiro". |
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pomme deleted the post qrter from Momme de Terre on 2005-03-16 01:28 [#01534545] Points: 34187 Status: Addict | Followup to : #01534542 | Show recordbag what did he say? |
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well I kind of got that. sooo.. how about that scanner.. um.. |
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I was dissapointed with his review of the present then, to be honest. He's a prankster with his helicopter cello nonsense but it's only a joke.the easy way out. |
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even in the fifties and sixties stockhausen was just as obsessed with himself as he is now, for ages now hes beliving everyone telling him hes god. alot of the things he says can't be taken seriously - the guy is a mad bastard |
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..the similarities with D. James continue. |
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that wasn't a joke.. the whole helikopter quartet thing - he was deadly serious =) |
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ofcourse he is. What do you think of the analord derrivative shit? |
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i wanna know too! |
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I know it wasn't a joke for him, but it will be seen that way. |
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Oh these old German artists, that take themselves a tad too seriously. I think Stockhausen is often lazily invoked as some influence on IDM, I don't think many electronic artists take on his ideas really, or to any great exent. I mean, I don't know, but.... you do wonder what people, like him, like Dickie, want to achieve with music. Do they even know? |
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well purely seen in just the advances made technologically to accomodate composers like Stockhausen, yes, it has influence on electronic music these days. also the I would think that the general approach to electronic music has changed because of Stockhausen et al, making it easier for "IDM peoples" to find a public these days. I'm talking out of my arse now. |
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more to the point, what is eric von daniken trying to achieve? |
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I mean, it's not like Aphex made "Gergubalonx Squib" because of a record of Stockhausen's he's heard, but more because he thinks it's wikkid and him and his mates like it. the influence won't be directly, I mean. frrrrr. |
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Everytime I see a copy of Chariots of the Gods in a charity shop I buy it. |
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The ideal thing would be to meet him in a room and have a wicked discussion. |
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they sure did pick the right tapes to send him..the only one that took the advice was richard apperantly :) |
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Well that's what I mean, as you say "Stockhausen et al" or "the influence won't be directly" yet more often than not it's "Oh yes IDM, Stockhausen, Eno, then Aphex". It's just laziness. |
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how do you mean "laziness"? as in: just repeating those supposed influences, but never even listening to their music and actually trying to make a connection? I think it's kind of impossible to deny the connection. |
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:) |
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i was denied a connection today on platoform 9a at birmingham new street. fucking british rail bastards. |
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platoform. its a new republic underground station. |
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can't... make... pun.. |
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next time, tell him this is impossible. http://xltronic.com/mb/topic.php3?topic=73823&start=0&seekw if needed, refer to my post: rd=#01534632 |
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something went horribly, horribly wrong. I'm off to bed. |
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Exactly, as in "just repeating those supposed influences". On a wider scale yes there's a Stockhausen influence, but I don't hear a specific influence in the music of Aphex Twin or that many artists, not directly. |
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quarter wears a beard. |
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Who was that big fat ginger DJ who did a cover of "I found love" and then promptly died? That's the APEX of music. |
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is anyone saying that, though? I believe most people mean a general influence, not a direct one. but yes, most people do just repeat this, without trying to find out what this actually means. and it can be fun - listening to old Raymond Scott stuff and hearing connections to things made today. |
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I think it's a temptation for the lazier critic within such a vague non-genre to just rattle off the names a few beardy old academics and head off down the pub... it seems like some people need to establish a sort of commonly-held Avant Minimal Wikkid Improv Rave (that's AMWIR, fact fans) timeline to make life easier for themselves and draw a neat little box around what's a very pluralistic "scene", i guess. Not that i'm, like, denying Stockhausen or Eno or Wendy Carlos or whoever any props or anything... i'm no expert and i'm more than willing to believe that their methods and techniques were all very groundbreaking and so on, but i'm certainly no AMWIR fan either. |
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I have a small collection, which I rotate daily: |
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How can you be argumentative with me whilst saying exactly what I want to say but 67% more eloquently. Fuck off! |
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stop saying AMWIR! you just made that up! |
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